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Life After MLM

Roberta Blevins

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True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich. Life After MLM is a part of True Native Media. Visit https://truenativemedia.com for more.
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Every Thursday, dive into the dark side of finance. From cutthroat con artists to billion-dollar scams, and even murder, Nicole Lapin will take you through the world’s wildest financial crimes -- or talk to the experts who studied them, and the victims that survived them. Scams, Money and Murder with Nicole Lapin is part of Crime House Studios. For more content, follow us on Instagram and TikTok @crimehouse.
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Fair Game

Leah Remini & Mike Rinder

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Leah Remini and Mike Rinder's podcast, Fair Game will take you behind the facade and expose the terrible truth about scientology's Fair Game doctrine. It's been used for 5 decades to destroy anyone they label an enemy -- former scientologists, media, government officials -- anyone they think is impeding their objectives. Leah and Mike are covering new ground, digging deeper than ever into the shocking documents, facts and stories that will make you wonder how any of this is going on in Ameri ...
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In the 2010s, LuLaRoe leggings were everywhere—promising easy money, flexible hours, and the chance to run your own business. But Roberta Blevins learned firsthand that beneath LuLaRoe's vibrant surface lurked a devastating financial trap. In this candid conversation with Nicole Lapin, Roberta reveals the emotional and financial cost of getting cau…
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Journalist Jessica Pressler first broke the sensational story of Anna Sorokin—the mysterious "heiress" who scammed her way into Manhattan's elite circles. After moving to New York in 2013, 19-year-old Sorokin transformed herself into Anna Delvey, living a life of luxury funded entirely by fraud. In this interview, Jessica reveals how Anna deceived …
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Jen is back and this time we're talking all about the Bodi adjacent program by Autumn Calabrese, Belle Vitale! If you've been stuck in the toxic diet culture cycle, or maybe you're in perimenopause, and you're being bombarded with hormone health gimmicks, this episode may help you navigate those waters. Show Notes Connect with Jen! : ⁠Instagram⁠ | …
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Belle Gibson wasn’t just another wellness influencer—she was a scammer who faked terminal cancer, deceived vulnerable followers, and stole from charities. Nicole Lapin uncovers the shocking details behind Belle’s fraudulent empire, the investigation that exposed her, and the lasting damage caused by one of Instagram’s most notorious influencers. Sc…
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Crime House proudly presents Murder in the Media, our first-ever true crime audiobook. Told through the lens of five heart-pounding murder cases, this thrilling audiobook traces the evolving – and sometimes insidious – role the media has had in shaping true crime storytelling. Dive into five iconic cases, including the twisted crimes of serial kill…
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It's our 300th episode! Mr. F is here to hang out and help me with commentary on our latest Instagram Polls, plus give us his "not a lawyer" legal expertise regarding the Modere Bankruptcy case! Thank you so much for being here and supporting the show! Show Notes Modere Hiding it's Insolvency11 U.S. Code § 507 - Priorities Modere Bankruptcy Filing …
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On April 11th, the MLM Modere, who had been in business for over 23 years, shocked it's reps and shut it doors unexpectedly. That same day, I got a text from Maile, letting me know that since Modere was gone, she was finally free to tell her story and share the secrets she knew about the company. In this juicy tell all we talk about some of the mor…
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When billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman were found murdered in their Toronto mansion in 2017, suspicion immediately fell on their enemies—everyone from corporate rivals to family members. Five years later, their brutal double homicide remains unsolved. Nicole Lapin dives deep into the tangled web of money, power, and betrayal behind one of Canada…
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Part 2 of our episode with Kelli gets into the nitty gritty of what's been happening at Arieyl. As one of the only people at corporate who never signed an NDA, Kelli has a lot to say about what went on when she was there, and answers some of the rumors that have been shared with me anonymously. Plus, an update to what's been found in several produc…
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Nicole Lapin sits down with Tyler Gray, investigative journalist and author of "The Hit Charade," who uncovered the explosive truth behind music mogul Lou Pearlman. Pearlman created some of the biggest boy bands in history, including the Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC, and seemed like he could do no wrong. But behind the chart-topping hits and worldwid…
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*Content Warning! This episode deals with traumatic themes of trafficking, sexual allegations and spiritual abuse. Please use caution when listening.* In Part 1 of our 2 part story, we meet Kelli and hear her testimony of her time in a corporate position at the MLM Arieyl. As a founding member, Kelli saw and experienced more than her fair share of …
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In 2017, Billy McFarland was promoting Fyre Festival - an exclusive event in the Bahamas, filled with celebrity guests, top performers and a lot of good looking people. But behind the glamor, it was all a lie. In the end, Billy became famous -- not for throwing an epic party -- but for getting thrown in jail. Scams, Money, & Murder is a Crime House…
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When a group of teenagers began burglarizing the homes of Hollywood’s biggest stars, the world was captivated— and so was journalist Nancy Jo Sales. Nicole Lapin talks with Nancy Jo about breaking the Bling Ring story, the blurred lines between fame, ambition, and crime, and why celebrity culture made the thefts feel almost inevitable. From navigat…
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Three years ago Bridget Read reached out to me to talk about my experiences in AntiMLM Advocacy for a book she was writing at the time. Today Bridget is here to talk about that very book, Little Bosses Everywhere, which comes out May 6th! In our chat we discuss the early days of the Health and Wellness industry, MLMs, and Amway's connections to Ame…
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When Pernilla Sjöholm matched with Simon Leviev on Tinder, she thought she’d found a best friend. Cecilie Fjellhøy believed she’d finally found true love. Instead, both women were manipulated, betrayed, and defrauded out of hundreds of thousands of dollars by the infamous "Tinder Swindler." In this interview, Nicole Lapin sits down with Pernilla an…
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We've got another MLM Mini Dive with Julie today! This time it's Youngevity, the MLM with my favorite stupid name! If you've been following the Epicure drama you may have heard rumors of it being sold to Youngevity, and Julie is here to tell us what she knows about it. We also talk about the beginnings of the company, and how deeply connected to ot…
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When crypto exchange giant FTX collapsed, Jake Thacker lost more than $200,000 in a matter of hours. In this candid interview, Nicole Lapin speaks with Jake about the emotional and financial toll of FTX’s downfall. From missed red flags to bankruptcy fallout, this is a raw look at the real victims of Sam Bankman-Fried’s empire—and a warning for any…
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Crime House has a new original show, “Clues.” Every Wednesday, join hosts Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore as they take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever — where a single clue can crack a case wide open. From shocking murders to serial killers, Clues dives into all the forensic details and brilliant sleuthing of the world's mo…
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Whew! We've got a doozy with today's episode! We're joined by Jen McIntyre, a former rep for Epicure who's got an inside look into the failed MLM. As one of the first American consultants, Jen saw A LOT of things that rubbed her the wrong way, and she couldn't wait to share the second the went under. AND! Since recording this episode in February, E…
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Jake Haendel has been handed a death sentence. He has a terminal progressive disease that's eating away at the white matter of his brain. In six months, he'll be dead. As the months progress, Jake slips into a coma, laying there in total darkness. But something odd has happened... Jake is fully conscious. Nobody knows that he can hear them. They’re…
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In today's episode, Mr. F joins us to chat about the future of health and wellness trends and the closing of the MLM Modere. Plus, Nandi returns to share her experiences using Nutrilite products during her time in Amway, and some of the more ridiculous products in their lineup. Show Notes Nutrilite Wiki NSF International Amway Farms Blue Light Vita…
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After moving to New York in 2013, 19-year-old Anna Sorokin pursued her dreams of becoming a socialite by falling in with the city's elite -- only she couldn't afford it. Still she kept up appearances by scamming hotels, friends, and banks - alike. But the mirage only lasted for so long... Money Crimes is a Crime House Original. Follow us on social …
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Cassandra was working in a gym when she tried Zyia leggings for the first time. With a built in customer base and a background in sales, she decided to jump into the company and see what she could make of it. Like most of us who join pyramid schemes, she didn't gain the financial freedom she was promised, but that didn't stop her from bouncing from…
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Ippei Mizuhara was the right-hand man to Japanese pitcher and baseball superstar, Shohei Ohtani. As his translator, Ippei did everything for Shohei -- which included having access to his bank accounts. And when Ippei found himself millions in the red from a gambling addiction, he turned to his trusted boss for the funds. Problem was... he didn't bo…
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*Content Warning : This episode deals with eating disorders and disordered eating. Please use discretion when listening.* After many successful years on a popular weight loss program, corporate changes lead Katie to no longer seeing the results she wanted. As a marathon runner, Katie always been physically active, until a spinal surgery left her un…
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By 2014, Elizabeth Holmes was the queen of Silicon Valley. Her company Theranos was valued at nine billion dollars -- all thanks to its revolutionary blood-testing technology. But there was no groundbreaking tech... and Elizabeth knew it. By the time the world found out the truth, Elizabeth had scammed her investors out of hundreds of millions of d…
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Have you ever heard that some MLMs are willable businesses, that you can pass down to your children so they can inherit your income? Have you ever wondered what that meant and if there was any legitimacy to those claims, or if it was just another MLM lie? Today we have Tasha, an attorney who focuses on estate planning and estate administration, inc…
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Elizabeth Holmes was just 19 years old when she founded a startup called Theranos. She claimed her company would change healthcare forever with its sophisticated blood-testing devices -- and before long, Elizabeth and Theranos were the darlings of Silicon Valley. But there was just one problem: it was all a lie. Money Crimes is a Crime House Origin…
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Crime House has a new original show, "Killer Minds." Every Monday and Thursday, dive into the dark, twisted minds of the world's most notorious serial killers and murderers. "Killer Minds" combines gripping true crime storytelling with psychological analysis from a licensed forensic psychologist. Join hosts Vanessa Richardson and Dr. Tristin Engels…
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In the early 1970s, drug lord Pablo Escobar created the Medellín drug cartel, making him one of the most powerful men in Colombia -- and one of the richest men in the world. As his power grew, Pablo turned to increasingly violent methods to expand his empire... and was willing to murder anyone who got in his way. Money Crimes is a Crime House Origi…
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*Content Warning: This episode deals with Toxic Diet Culture and mentions disordered eating and orthorexia. Please use caution when listening.* When I first put out a call to action for this season's main theme of Health and Wellness, SO MANY of you reached out and told me that I needed to chat with Jen Borruso. Not only is Jen now a Personal Train…
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To the outside world, Todd and Julie Chrisley looked like they had it all: a hit reality show, a beautiful family, and tons of money. But that picture-perfect image was shattered when the public learned that the stars of "Chrisley Knows Best" were living one big lie. When the dust settled, Todd and Julie were facing prison time for bank fraud and t…
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Today Platinum Chelsea joins us to talk about the newest MLM in pre-pre-launch, FermaGlo. It's a fun MLM Mini Dive episode loaded with nonsense, zoom calls, sound effects, deep speculation, professional advice and an AI song singing FermaGlo's praises. Jump in, grab yourself a snack and a drink and be prepared to learn everything we know about the …
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Martin Shkreli was more than just your average hedge fund manager -- by the time he was 33, he'd also founded his own pharmaceutical company. But he wasn't motivated by altruism. Behind the scenes, Martin was hiking drug prices up to astronomical levels... and committing all kinds of financial crimes. Money Crimes is a Crime House Original. For mor…
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Mariah spent almost her entire 20's in Amway, in a pyramid filled with family members. Throughout their time in LTD, Mariah and her husband faced a multitude of health and wellness struggles including miscarriage, an emergency bowel restructuring, and a scary mystery illness and diagnosis. The most common denominator? Amway. Show Notes Adverse reac…
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For years, Simon Leviev used Tinder to charm beautiful women into believing he was their one true love. Then, just when things were getting serious, he would disappear, leaving his victims heartbroken and penniless. By the time Simon got caught, he’d scammed his victims out of an estimated ten million dollars. Money Crimes is a Crime House Original…
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Samantha started using Young Living Essential Oils because she believed they would be a safer alternative to mainstream household cleaners and products. She quickly found herself with a shelf full of EO vials and deeply immersed in the #oilylife, throwing away all the "negative" products and replacing them with Young Living dupes. As she built a te…
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In 2019, Alex Murdaugh's law firm discovered that he had conned several clients out of millions of dollars -- but that was only the tip of the iceberg. Alex flailed as his family, his business and his finances crumbled under the weight of public scrutiny... pushing Alex to commit his most unspeakable crime to date -- murder. Money Crimes is a Crime…
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Crime House has a new original show, Crime House: True Crime Stories, Every Monday, take a deep dive into some of the world’s most notorious true crime cases from that week in history, all connected by a captivating theme – infamous serial killers, mysterious disappearances, tragic murders, and more. Join host Vanessa Richardson every Monday. Searc…
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In our first ever podcast based MLM Mini Dive, Julie Anderson is here to help us understand the new MLM Make Wellness and some of it's shadier history. If you've been haggled about "BioActive Precision Peptides" this is the episode for you, and while you're listening, go ahead and send it to 3 friends who need to hear it too. This episode also feat…
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For decades, the Murdaugh family was famous for being trusted, personal injury lawyers in Hampton County, South Carolina. But when Alex Murdaugh's son was involved in a brutal boating accident, the Murdaughs found themselves under a microscope. And all of the ugly crimes Alex had committed using his law firm started to bubble to the surface. Money …
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Who doesn't love a good and juicy MLM story about the dangers of dating in your downline? Now add Amway to the mix, and we've got a hilariously honest and vulnerable origin story about Matt and his wife Tracey, and all the sick mind games the IBOs in LTD played with them along the way. It's been over 16 years since they've relived some of these sto…
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Emerging from humble beginnings in small-town France, Christophe Rocancourt wormed his way into high society in Paris, Los Angeles, and New York. Everywhere he went, he conned people into giving him money for bogus investments. Whether Christophe pretended to be related to famous film producers or even a European cousin of the famous Rockefeller fa…
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Because we're focusing a bit more on the Health and Wellness MLMs this year, we've got an educational episode for you today. Folks on the neurodivergent spectrum tend to get targeted often by MLMs offering anecdotal promises of cures and quick fixes, so it felt important to provide empathy and context. When we're deep in MLM, we often don't take a …
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Known as "Governor Sunshine," Rod Blagojevich dominated Chicago and Illinois politics in the late '90s and early 2000s. But something sinister lay behind the flashy smile. Despite promises of big change, Rod descended into a world of crime and corruption that ultimately landed him behind bars. Money Crimes is a Crime House Original. For more conten…
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Have you ever experienced FOMO? It's the "Fear of Missing Out" and it often plays a large part in the MLM experiences. Today's guest Lindsay is no exception to MLM FOMO and wanted to share her story of her time in Senegence. From using the large Facebook group she managed as a sales pool, to realizing that everything she experienced was dripping wi…
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In the early 2000s, word of Bernie Madoff's secret investment advisory firm finally started to get out. But even when the SEC investigated his shady business tactics, Bernie came out ahead. But Bernie's magic touch could only take him so far. There were some economic forces even he couldn't control... and when the damage was done, Bernie Madoff's c…
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In the fall of 2024, the MLM world was rocked when Beachbody/BODi announced they were dropping the MLM aspect and going affiliate. Our guest, Joline Atkins was there to witness every rise and fall in her 14 year stint with the company. From nearly ruining her family vacation hitting 5 Star Diamond, to simply asking too many questions, Joline ethica…
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For decades, Bernie Madoff was regarded as a Wall Street titan. Even when the economy slumped, his investments seemed to come out ahead. But behind the flashy returns, it was all a mirage. And it was only a matter of time until somebody realized it. Money Crimes is a Crime House Original. For more content, follow us on Instagram and TikTok @crimeho…
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On January 5th, 2025, we lost our friend Mike Rinder to his battle with esophageal cancer. Mike was a friend of the pod, fierce fighter again coercive control and abuse, and a advocate for all cult survivors. The legacy he built will live on and continue to help and inspire survivors to come. We will miss you Mike! COBSCOHB From the Vault! December…
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