Defending Ideas is a weekly podcast produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense conservatism, by equipping listeners to become more effective champions of sound principle and good policy. Visit defendingideas.org.
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Nick Hague interviews world-renowned business experts from a range of disciplines to discuss their favourite strategies, models, frameworks, and their latest book releases on how to achieve business success. Sponsored by B2B Frameworks.
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#25: How to Become an Entrepreneur (with Greg Fisher, Professor of Entrepreneurship at Kelley School of Business)
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1:06:31Today I’m joined by Greg Fisher, Professor of Entrepreneurship at Kelley School of Business, to discuss strategies and tips on how to become a successful entrepreneur . Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com
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Why Rep. Mike Kennedy says welfare needs stronger work requirements
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50:53Should federal welfare programs do more to promote work? Congressman Mike Kennedy of Utah’s 3rd District says yes. On this episode, host Nic Dunn sits down with Rep. Kennedy to hear his personal story of growing up in poverty, how it shaped his views on the power of work, and why he believes the Let’s Get to Work Act can help more families achieve …
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Are ‘empowerment accounts’ the answer to poverty and self-sufficiency? With Vance Ginn
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47:01There’s a lot of debate in Washington, D.C., and across the country right now about how to reform federal programs like Medicaid and Food Stamps. But what if there were a more effective way to improve the prospects of families trying to escape poverty that would save taxpayer dollars? On this episode, Nic Dunn talks with Vance Ginn, President of Gi…
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How to empower local school board members to lead education reform
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47:27It’s common to see news reports about education policy debates at the federal level and in state legislatures. But what if one of the most important policy levers for education reform is much closer to home — yet gets ignored far too often? On this episode, Sutherland’s Nic Dunn and Christine Cooke Fairbanks talk with David Hoyt, executive director…
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#24: How Brands Grow (with Jenni Romaniuk, Research Professor at Ehrenberg-Bass Institute)
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1:05:50Today I’m joined by Jenni Romaniuk, Research Professor at Ehrenberg-Bass Institute, for a hugely valuable discussion around evidence-based marketing and insights. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com Further links: https://www.jenniromaniuk.com/ https://business.linkedin.com/m…
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Rethinking poverty: Beyond material hardship to upward mobility, with Kevin Corinth
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54:41Alleviating poverty has been a goal of the United States since the launch of the War on Poverty in the 1960s. But what if the way we think about – and talk about – poverty is all wrong? On this episode, Nic Dunn welcomes AEI Senior Fellow Kevin Corinth, who also serves as deputy director of AEI’s Center on Opportunity and Social Mobility. They disc…
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Yuval Levin on how the Constitution is the solution to America’s broken politics
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45:51If you’re frustrated by the dysfunction in American politics, you’re not alone. But what if the solution already exists within the very framework for our nation? This week on Defending Ideas, host Nic Dunn sits down with AEI scholar Yuval Levin, author of American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation — and Could Again. Levin argues tha…
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Richard Reeves on why we need to address the challenges boys and men are facing today
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55:41There’s a growing body of evidence that boys and men are struggling in today’s society, from mental health and education to work and family life. On this episode, Nic Dunn is joined by AEI Senior Fellow and Defending Ideas Feature Contributor Beth Akers to sit down with Richard Reeves, president of the American Institute for Boys and Men and author…
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#23: How to Create Mischief in the Advertising Industry (with Greg Hahn, Co-Founder & CCO of Mischief USA)
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51:17Today I’m joined by Greg Hahn, Co-Founder & CCO of Mischief USA, for an exciting discussion on how to build a brand admired around the world and how to create award-winning adverts. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com
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Utah Attorney General Derek Brown on defending the rule of law and constitutional structure
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39:42These days, many political disagreements hinge on misunderstandings of the constitutional structure of state and federal government. How can we address this? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Utah Attorney General Derek Brown to discuss his vision for the office, defending the rule of law and restoring America's constitutional order. Joined …
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More than just rights: What Americans get wrong about the Constitution
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1:00:41Have Americans forgotten the actual purpose of the Constitution? This week on Defending Ideas, we delve into key themes from a recent Sutherland Institute event featuring Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, author and American Enterprise Institute scholar Yuval Levin, and former federal judge Thomas Griffith. Join host Nic Dunn and guest Bill Duncan as they exp…
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#22: Advertising and the Power of Behavioural Science (with Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman at Ogilvy UK and TED Global Speaker)
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1:06:24Today I’m joined by Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman at Ogilvy UK and TED Global Speaker, for a masterclass on all things advertising and behavioural science. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com
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What really matters to Utah voters? This week on Defending Ideas, we analyze a new voter priority survey with Jade Burt, director of research for Y2 Analytics, and Derek Monson, chief growth officer for Sutherland Institute. We break down issue priorities by demographic and voting profiles and analyze the diverse perspectives within the state's ele…
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Could a smaller federal safety net save money while elevating work?
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48:24There’s a ferocious debate in Washington, D.C., right now over possible cuts to a variety of different programs in the federal government. So what does this mean for the federally funded social safety net? Alliance for Opportunity Senior Fellow Les Ford joins host Nic Dunn to give an overview of some of the proposals in Congress through the lens of…
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#21: How to Create the Most Effective Marketing Campaigns (with Les Binet, World-Renowned Expert in Marketing Effectiveness)
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1:22:31Today I’m joined by Les Binet, world-renowned expert in the field of marketing effectiveness, for a fascinating discussion on how marketing and advertising really works and how to create the most effective campaigns. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com…
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Empowering Parents Through Open Enrollment
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44:19This episode of Defending Ideas explores how open enrollment policies empower parents to make educational choices for their children within the public school system. Guests Halli Faulkner, Senior Legislative Drafter with yes. every kid., and Christine Cooke Fairbanks, Education Policy Fellow with Sutherland Institute, discuss the benefits and chall…
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Should Utah change its vote-by-mail system?
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1:00:51The Utah legislature is considering changes to the state's vote-by-mail system. On this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn sits down with R Street Institute Resident Fellow in Governance Jonathan Madison, and Sutherland Institute Chief Growth Officer Derek Monson, to discuss whether these changes would boost or diminish public confidence in elect…
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Special episode: Is a constitutional amendment the answer to money’s influence in politics?
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45:22From super PACs, to “dark money,” to the increasingly eye-catching dollar amounts campaigns raise each year, the role of money in political campaigns raises serious questions and has been the source of much debate. This week on Defending Ideas, we’re releasing a special episode to ask: Can a constitutional amendment truly address the issue of money…
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The case for app store age verification to protect kids online
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39:34How much control do parents really have over the online content their children have access to? Is there an appropriate role for government policy in this area? This episode of Defending Ideas explores the proposed App Store Accountability Act and whether government intervention to give parents more control over their kids' app downloads is warrante…
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#20: How to Become More Customer-Centric (with Peter Fader, Co-Founder, Author and Keynote Speaker)
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1:03:13Today I’m joined by Peter Fader, author, keynote speaker, and co-founder at Theta and Encompass Labs, for a fascinating discussion on how to develop your company’s customer-centricity and how to be more strategic in your conversations with your CFO. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternat…
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How states can improve transparency to rein in federal agencies and restore federalism
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49:13State government agencies are supposed to be accountable to that state’s voters through their elected representatives. But what happens when federal agencies try to directly influence what state agencies do in ways that elected officials may not even know about? On this episode, Nic Dunn welcomes a small roundtable of experts to discuss a new bill …
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What's next for Utah's effort to return federal public lands to state control?
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30:43The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear Utah’s public lands lawsuit. So what does this mean for the states' prospects for having stronger management of land within their own borders? On this episode, Nic Dunn is joined by Sutherland Constitutional Law and Religious Freedom Fellow Bill Duncan to give an update on the status of the public lands dispu…
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Why Utah Gov. Spencer Cox focused on social capital in his second inaugural
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43:23Utah Gov. Spencer J. Cox, who was recently inaugurated for a second term, laid out a vision for the next for years for Utah in his inauguration speech. So what does it really take for a state to be successful, and what is Utah's secret? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Aimee Winder Newton, senior advisor to Cox and director of the Utah Offi…
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#19: Changing the World Through Brands (with Chris Baker, Author, Founder and Keynote Speaker)
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1:01:25Today I’m joined by Chris Baker, author of ‘Obsolete: How Change Brands are Changing the World’ and Founder and CEO of Serious Tissues, for a fascinating discussion on how changing the way we spend our money has the potential to change the world. Use the code obsolete25 on the Bloomsbury website to buy a discounted copy of the book. Sponsored by ht…
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Work Disincentives and the Safety Net: Insights from the Atlanta Fed's Alex Ruder
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45:01If you work harder and earn more, your family should be better off. But for some on the government safety net, that may not always be the case. On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta’s Alex Ruder. Alex serves as Community and Economic Development Director and Principal Adviser for the Atlanta Fed, where he focu…
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#18: Innovation in Marketing (with Tom Goodwin, Business Transformation Consultant)
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57:21Today I’m joined by Tom Goodwin, business transformation consultant and highly-acclaimed author and keynote speaker, for a exciting discussion on why brands are so important in today’s digital age, how AI will impact the marketing sector, and how to innovate to stay competitive in the future. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to yo…
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What 2024 means for the nation's political future, with Jason Perry and Maura Carabello
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47:53As 2024 winds down, what do the results of this election year mean for the future of politics and policy debates for the United States? On this episode, we look back on a tumultuous election year and offer a roadmap for a more productive and solutions-focused 2025. Nic Dunn is joined by Jason Perry, vice president for government relations and the d…
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Why the Supreme Court should take up Utah's public lands case
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46:52The federal government controls nearly 70% of the land in Utah, and has for a long time. Is this a problem? And if so, what should be done about it? On this episode, we discuss Utah's new lawsuit asking the Supreme Court to weigh in on important constitutional questions around federal vs. state management of land. Nic Dunn sits down with Pacific Le…
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#17: The Future of B2B Marketing (with Peter Weinberg and Jon Lombardo, Co-Founders of Evidenza)
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55:47Today I’m joined by Peter Weinberg and Jon Lombardo, Co-Founders of Evidenza, for a hugely valuable discussion on the future of B2B marketing and the importance of B2B brand building. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com
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Should the U.S. Department of Education be abolished?
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56:37Should the U.S. Department of Education be abolished? That’s one of the questions that the new presidential administration and the new Congress may grapple with in 2025. But what does this mean for a broader education policy agenda for the next four years? On this episode, Nic Dunn interviews AEI Senior Fellow Max Eden about the latest national dev…
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Navigating political disagreement during the holidays
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5:54This episode of Defending Ideas is a special holiday message. Host Nic Dunn draws from themes of past episodes to offer a framework for navigating political disagreement with loved ones during the holidays. Defending Ideas is a weekly show produced by Sutherland Institute. On this show we are committed to renewing the principles of common sense con…
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How to empower those on the social safety net to pursue work and opportunity
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47:34America is the land of opportunity. So how should we respond when new evidence shows that some families actually feel discouraged from working harder for the American Dream? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Randy Hicks, president and CEO of the Georgia Center for Opportunity. They discuss new evidence of how families on the social safety ne…
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#16: Using Business Models to Drive Innovation (with Alex Osterwalder, Founder and CEO at Strategyzer)
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1:01:09Today I’m joined by Alex Osterwalder, Founder and CEO at Strategyzer, for a hugely valuable discussion on how to use business models to be more innovative and what it takes to build an invincible company. Learn more about Strategyzer and their guided programs: https://strategyzer.com/greatest-business-thinkers Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks…
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What’s next now that election season is over?
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50:01The election is over, and we now know the results. So, what’s next for public discourse, election trust, and political polarization? On this episode we continue our special Election Day coverage with part two of a mini-roundtable discussion with Sutherland executives. Nic Dunn sits down with Sutherland’s Derek Monson and Stan Rasmussen to evaluate …
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Election Day is here, and it’s understandable to feel stressed or worried about the outcome. But what if there is something that has a bigger impact on America’s future than who wins? On this special Election Day edition of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn sits down with Sutherland Institute President and CEO Rick Larsen and Sutherland Chief Development O…
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#15: The Role of Science and Engineering Innovation in Shaping Our World (with Jayshree Seth, Corporate Scientist and Chief Science Advocate at 3M)
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1:07:31Today I’m joined by Jayshree Seth, Corporate Scientist and Chief Science Advocate at 3M, who discusses our relationship with science and engineering and the important role it plays in innovation, problem solving, and professional and personal growth. Show notes and further links: Jayshree’s 3rd book in the ‘Heart of Science’ series, ‘The Heart of S…
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How to fix Utah’s housing crisis without government subsidy, with Ed Pinto
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51:27The cost of housing is a major issue here in Utah and across the nation, and there are many different proposals to address it. But what is the approach that policymakers should take? On this episode, we sit down with a national housing expert who has a plan that he says would increase Utah’s housing supply significantly without needing any governme…
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Could artificial intelligence actually improve elections?
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44:10The 2024 election is the first time artificial intelligence has begun to play a noticeable role during campaign season. What does that mean for the way we conduct elections in this country? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with an expert in AI and election policy to discuss some of the opportunities and challenges presented by this new technolog…
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#14: Developing an Experience Mindset (with Tiffani Bova, Leading Growth Strategist, Keynote Speaker and Bestselling Author)
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1:09:23Today I’m joined by Tiffani Bova, a leading growth strategist, keynote speaker and bestselling author, for an insightful discussion on how to develop an experience mindset to fuel unprecedented revenue growth. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com…
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Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson on the state of election security
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42:46We’ve all seen the controversy in recent years in the news and online over the issue of election security. So, what is actually going on, and is your vote secure? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson, Salt Lake County Clerk Lannie Chapman, and Davis County Clerk Brian McKenzie. Together they address some of the co…
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#13: Implementing Meaningful DEI (with Netta Jenkins, Leading Authority on DEI and CEO of Aerodei)
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47:47Today I’m joined by Netta Jenkins, a leading authority on DEI and CEO of Aerodei, for an insightful discussion on how to build inclusive organisations. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com
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The missing constitutional questions in Utah’s Amendment D debate
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33:49What is the proper role of citizen ballot initiatives compared to laws passed by the state Legislature as different methods to create public policy? On this episode Nic Dunn sits down with Sutherland’s Derek Monson and Bill Duncan to dive into the debate over Amendment D, which was a proposal to amend Utah’s Constitution with that very question in …
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A special look at the new film "Free Exercise: America's Story of Religious Liberty"
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48:09The freedom to live your faith is a bedrock American principle. But has the right of religious freedom always enjoyed the level of protection that it does today? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Thomas Lehrman, executive producer of a new documentary called "Free Exercise: America's Story of Religious Liberty." The film tells the story of t…
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Rep. John Curtis on why modern politics needs a reset: town halls, Reagan, climate, and more
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32:21If you're frustrated with national politics, is a "reset" the answer? On this episode, Nic Dunn sits down with Rep. John Curtis of Utah's Third Congressional District. Congressman Curtis tells the story of how his team changed how they conducted town halls, yielding vastly improved dialogue with constituents, and how it's a model for improving nati…
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#12: Actionable Lessons for Aspiring Leaders (with Asheesh Advani, accomplished entrepreneur and CEO of JA Worldwide)
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49:40Description: Today I’m joined by Asheesh Advani, accomplished entrepreneur and CEO of JA (Junior Achievement) Worldwide, for a fascinating discussion on how young leaders can succeed in our rapidly-changing modern reality. Sponsored by https://www.b2bframeworks.com Brought to you in partnership with https://awardsinternational.com…
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Rep. Celeste Maloy on the proper role of the federal government
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35:58What is the proper role of the federal government? It's a question that impacts many of the national policy debates that top the news, and it was an important theme during Sutherland Institute's 2024 Congressional Series. This week, Nic Dunn sits down with Rep. Celeste Maloy of Utah's Second Congressional District to get her insights on the proper …
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Will 2025 be the Super Bowl of tax policy? With Rep. Blake Moore
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29:16Congress is approaching a major deadline with many provisions of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act set to expire in 2025. What does this mean for Utahns and the upcoming elections in November? On this week's episode, we sit down with Rep. Blake Moore of Utah's First Congressional District to discuss reining in federal spending, how to reform social safety …
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Rep. Burgess Owens on the role of parents in education
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40:55We often talk about the vital role parents play in directing the education of their children. But is this principle of parental engagement top of mind for policymakers in Washington, D.C.? On this episode we sit down with Rep. Burgess Owens of Utah's Fourth Congressional District to get his perspective on the education policy debates happening in o…
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A parent’s perspective on access to what’s happening in the classroom
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42:21Parental engagement has huge benefits for students. But how easy is it for a parent to actually be involved in what his or her children are learning in school? On this episode, we hear from a Utah parent who shares the pros and cons of Utah’s current parent access resources. We also dive into new research from Sutherland Institute. Amy Wilson is a …
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Is zoning reform the answer to high housing costs? With Nolan Gray
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49:14The cost of housing is a top concern for likely voters in Utah according to Sutherland Institute research. It’s easy for housing affordability to feel like an intractable issue, but one national expert argues that we can solve this policy challenge by reforming local zoning policies. Nic Dunn talks with Nolan Gray, former New York City planner and …
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