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Divergent Conversations

Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

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Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they sh ...
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The School of Healing

Dominiece Clifton

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The School of Healing is for current and aspiring women entrepreneurs ready to elevate their lives and become the women required to hold the BIG VISION Spirit has entrusted to them. The show supports you in finding understanding and clarity in six core areas, aka the 6 Clarity Pillars: 1.) Clarity on your vision 2.) Clarity on your goals 3.) Clarity on your why/purpose 4.) Clarity on who you are because that impacts your business 5.) Clarity on your ideal client 6.) Clarity on how you serve ...
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Burnout can hit hard for late-diagnosed autistic and ADHD adults, especially when the energy cost of masking becomes too much to bear. Dropping the mask and stepping into authenticity brings both relief and upheaval, raising new challenges that aren’t always easy to navigate alone. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD …
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Autistic burnout can feel like you’re running on empty: emotionally, physically, or both. Managing energy, burnout, and self-acceptance in a neurotypical world can be exhausting, especially for neurodivergent people navigating chronic fatigue, sensory overload, and internalized expectations. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, …
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In this episode of The School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton sits down with Catharine O'Leary to explore her powerful transition from a corporate career to purpose-driven entrepreneurship. Catharine shares how understanding your ideal client, leaning into personal development, and aligning with your passion are key to long-term success. Togethe…
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Burnout can feel relentless for Autistic people, especially when our bodies and minds seem to react more intensely to stress than those around us. Understanding how our nervous systems work—and why we may struggle with regulation—can transform self-blame into self-compassion and change the way we approach mental health, relationships, and daily lif…
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In this episode of the School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton speaks with life coach Angie Billin about her journey from personal struggles to empowering women through coaching. They discuss the importance of inner child healing, the inside-out approach to personal development, and the transition to entrepreneurship. Angie shares her insights on…
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Burnout isn’t just about exhaustion—it’s a sensory experience that can leave neurodivergent people feeling stretched to the breaking point. When every sound, smell, or texture feels overwhelming, how do we navigate recovery and build resilience in a world that rarely slows down? In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD men…
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In this episode of the School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton welcomes Stacey Gray, founder and CEO of Organize to Scale. They discuss the entrepreneurial journey, the importance of personal growth, and the challenges of business co-dependence. Stacey shares her personal experiences with loss and how it shaped her approach to business and life. …
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Navigating Autistic burnout can feel overwhelming, especially when recovery advice is often oversimplified or disconnected from the realities of daily life. For many Autistic people, finding real, sustainable strategies to move through burnout isn’t just about willpower; it’s about understanding our needs, honoring our limits, and reclaiming a sens…
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In this episode, Dominiece Clifton shares her personal journey of navigating the challenges of entrepreneurship while managing stress and burnout. She emphasizes the importance of clarity, self-care, and the need to honor one's capacity to avoid self-sabotage. Through her vulnerable storytelling, she provides insights and lessons learned from her e…
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Living with perpetual Autistic burnout can feel like navigating a world that’s always just a little too overwhelming, exhausting, or out of sync. For neurodivergent people, teasing apart burnout from depression and understanding how chronic sensory and emotional overload shapes daily life is not just challenging but key for self-advocacy and well-b…
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In this inspiring conversation, Dominiece Clifton and Kellie Rhymes explore the transformative journey of self-discovery and embracing change. Kellie shares her shift from real estate to supporting women with hair loss, highlighting the power of stillness, clarity, and intuition. They discuss aligning business with purpose, incorporating spirituali…
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Navigating higher education as a neurodivergent student can often feel isolating and overwhelming in a system not designed for neurodivergent minds. For many, finding an affirming academic environment that truly recognizes and supports neurodivergent strengths, and not just challenges, can be life-changing. In this episode, Patrick Casale, an AuDHD…
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In this episode, Dominiece Clifton and Anna VanAgtmael explore the journey of entrepreneurship, self-discovery, and the transformative power of community. They discuss the importance of embracing change, learning from mistakes, and the significance of creating spaces for women to connect and grow. Anna shares her experiences in founding Wandering R…
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Navigating wellness advice as a neurodivergent person can often feel invalidating, overwhelming, or just plain inaccessible. So much of what’s recommended—from meal prep to journaling—assumes executive function, sensory profiles, or social fluency that simply aren’t universal. However, the right adaptations not only make wellness more achievable bu…
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In this enlightening conversation, Dominiece Clifton and Aline Ra M explore the intricate journey of spiritual growth and entrepreneurship. Aline shares her personal experiences, from her early mystical awakenings to her struggles with misalignment in life and career. The discussion delves into the importance of self-discovery, healing, and the rol…
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Typical wellness advice is often made to sound simple on the surface, but it can feel alienating, frustrating, or downright unhelpful in real life for many neurodivergent people. For many Autistic and ADHD adults, tips like “just relax,” “try meditation,” or “write in a gratitude journal” can miss the mark, complicating our efforts to find meaningf…
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In this episode of the School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton speaks with Michelle Hawk, a shaman, alchemist, and spiritual mentor. They explore the essence of shamanism, its ethical practice, and how to navigate the spiritual journey while building a business. Michelle shares her personal journey into shamanism, the importance of connecting wit…
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Finding joy and playfulness can feel complicated when the world feels heavy and overwhelming. For neurodivergent people, accessing moments of laughter and lightness—especially while navigating guilt or social pressure to be productive—becomes an essential, yet nuanced, form of self-preservation and resistance. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr…
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In this episode of the School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton engages in a heartfelt conversation with Tiffany Sims, a high-performance coach and founder of the Modern Woman Society. They explore themes of self-discovery, the journey of transformation, and the importance of navigating burnout and stress management. Tiffany shares her personal ex…
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Creativity isn’t just a spark or a talent—it’s a vital tether to our humanness, especially in a world that can feel overwhelming or isolating for neurodivergent people. Whether you feel energized and alive, or stuck in a season of fatigue, the pursuit and practice of creativity can connect us to ourselves, our aliveness, and our communities. In thi…
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In this episode of the School of Healing, host Dominiece Clifton engages with guest Julie DeLuca Collins, a business strategist, discussing the journey of entrepreneurship. They explore themes of gratitude, the importance of embracing failure, the transition from corporate to entrepreneurship, and the necessity of taking action and finding clarity …
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Finding real connection and community as a neurodivergent person can be both beautiful and complicated. We often long for community that gets us, but knowing where to look or how to show up as ourselves can feel uncertain. Having spaces where we feel seen, supported, and not too much isn’t just affirming — it’s important for our well-being. In this…
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Navigating constant news cycles and the pressure to engage with digital content that often changes by the minute and is expressed with different narratives can be uniquely challenging for neurodivergent individuals. Finding authentic ways to support your mental health, honor limited energy reserves, and cultivate meaningful community has never been…
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Grieving the loss of a beloved pet or navigating collective trauma can feel overwhelming, especially for neurodivergent individuals who experience heightened attachment and sensitivity. This episode highlights the raw realities of grief, loss, and emotional processing, and explores the complexities unique to neurodivergent wellness journeys. In thi…
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Prioritizing wellness and authentic connection is essential for neurodivergent individuals, especially during times of low energy or change. This episode highlights how embracing interdependence, rest, and honest communication can support deeper well-being and resilience within both friendships and professional collaborations. In this episode, Patr…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, Dominiece Clifton chats with spiritual coach and shaman Kelly Sparta about her journey into spirituality, the power of forgiveness, and lessons learned from her past. Kelly shares how simplifying her business and staying focused have supported her growth, along with the importance of being p…
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Struggling with feelings of not being “good enough” or questioning your legitimacy, even as your achievements grow, is a common but often isolating experience for neurodivergent professionals. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the complexities of “not good enough” schemas, impost…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, Dom reflects on her journey of embracing feminine energy in her business. She shares how slowing down, lightening her schedule, and creating space for rest and flow has led her to a deeper connection with herself and her work. Dom discusses the importance of trusting herself, allowing room f…
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Navigating the healthcare system and advocating for needs can be a frustrating and invalidating experience, especially for neurodivergent individuals who exhibit interwoven behaviors associated with OCD, autism, or Tourettes. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, and Dr. Stacy Gree…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing Podcast, host Dominiece Clifton engages in a deep conversation with Emily Hawkins, a fractional COO and entrepreneur. They explore Emily's journey from a challenging corporate environment to founding her own business, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, spirituality, and intentionality in lead…
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Dealing with chronic health issues can often feel like a neverending battle, especially when it seems like there’s no clear path to improvement. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss their personal battles with chronic health conditions. They provide an insightful analysis …
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, host Dominiece Clifton engages in a heartfelt conversation with Dana Nygaard, exploring themes of personal growth, healing, and the importance of understanding attachment styles. Dana shares her journey of self-discovery, the significance of grounding techniques, and her transformative 90-da…
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Neuroimmune systems often intertwine with chronic health and neurodivergence, leaving neurodivergent individuals grappling with things like energy management, chronic fatigue, or other long-term health conditions. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Dr. Mel Houser, an A…
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Summary In this School of Healing episode, Dominiece Clifton chats with Dr. Adrienne Campbell, a certified professional coach and Reiki master, about gratitude, self-care, and grounding techniques. Dr. Campbell shares her journey through grief, the power of healing practices, and the role of community in personal growth. She highlights the importan…
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Neurodivergent individuals can sometimes feel overwhelmed by emotions or struggle to understand their own stress responses, and entrepreneurship can add another level of intensity to this experience. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Yunetta Smith, a licensed clinicia…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, Dominiece Clifton shares a personal experience of getting her eyebrows done and the valuable lessons she learned from a seasoned business owner. Dom reflects on 10 key characteristics that contribute to building and sustaining a successful business. From faith and commitment to genuine servi…
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For adults who are questioning if they are Autistic, ADHD, etc., there is often an exploratory and somewhat confusing phase where they feel in between two different identities. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Jak Levine-Pritzker, ADHD coach and founder of Authentica…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing, Dominiece Clifton engages in a heartfelt conversation with Iona Rudisill, a licensed social worker and life coach. They explore themes of gratitude, morning routines, self-discovery, the importance of spirituality in professional life, and the journey of transitioning to entrepreneurship. Iona share…
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A traditional workplace can be really challenging for neurodivergent individuals, and if a workplace culture is made to be one-size-fits-all, the chances are high that it won’t fit for many neurodivergent people. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Lyric Rivera, founder…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing, Dominiece Clifton engages in a heartfelt conversation with Shetay Hayes, a creative strategist and founder of Career Steward Inc. They explore themes of self-acceptance, the importance of nurturing oneself, and the journey of becoming who you are meant to be. Shetay shares her experiences in the dan…
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Sensory meltdowns and shutdowns can be deeply misunderstood and unsettling experiences, whether you've faced them personally or seen a loved one struggle. For many Autistic individuals, dealing with overwhelming sensory stimuli is a recurring battle. The space between feeling in control and experiencing a complete sensory meltdown or shutdown can b…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, Dominiece Clifton speaks with Leslie Draffin, a somatic psychedelic guide and menstrual cycle educator. They explore Leslie's journey from being a news anchor to embracing her true self through various healing modalities, including breathwork, cyclical living, and psychedelics. The conversat…
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Navigating a world packed with all sorts of seemingly mismatched sensations, either overstimulating or understimulating, and having passionate interests that can appear as all-consuming to others, can be challenging and greatly impact the way we build relationships and even just get through the day. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr.…
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Summary In this episode, Dominiece Clifton shares her personal journey of rediscovering joy and fun in her life as a woman entrepreneur. She reflects on the pressures of ambition and the importance of allowing space for play and emotional well-being. Through her struggles, she identifies key moments of realization and sets intentions for cultivatin…
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Navigating the identification, assessment, and diagnosis of ADHD as an adult can be confusing and overwhelming. This mini-series on ADHD focuses on demystifying the diagnostic criteria and making the process clearer and more understandable. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, div…
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Summary In this episode of the School of Healing podcast, host Dominiece Clifton welcomes Djali Vestella, a clairvoyant prosperity and energy mentor. They explore the power of vibrational alignment, intuition, and intentionality in business. Djali shares her journey of overcoming mental health struggles through meditation, breathwork, and energy wo…
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Navigating the world with ADHD can present unique challenges, particularly when it comes to motivation and productivity. Whether it's the difficulty of getting started on mundane tasks or the complexities of staying engaged over time, the rollercoaster of emotional ups and downs can be hard to manage. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and D…
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Summary Judy Billingsley, a retired educator, shares her journey of healing from abandonment and discovering her identity. Born to a white mother and Black father in Germany, she was adopted by parents of color in the U.S. Her search for her roots led her to find her birth family, embrace her multicultural heritage, and find peace through forgivene…
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It’s common for ADHDers to feel these waves of inspiration that may lead to a romanticized version of the future that would come by acting on them. However, if action is taken, it alternatively might be accompanied by the ADHD tax—financial burden, over-commitment, broken dreams and promises, feelings of guilt and regret, etc. In this flashback epi…
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Summary In this episode, Dom interviews Lindsay Peele, founder of the Kingdom Wealth Connector, about building generational wealth and healing our relationship with money. Lindsay shares her journey growing up in a family business, overcoming financial trauma, and creating a financial transformation program to help others. She stresses the importan…
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