Scaling a business is tough — why figure it out the hard way when you can learn from someone who’s been there? We bring on top business leaders to share real stories of what has worked...and hasn’t. This is real talk with actionable insights from people who want to help you grow smarter and faster. If you’re serious about scaling your business, this is the show you can’t afford to miss.
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Art Cummings and Chad Lowe talk all things Utah Jazz
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The guys talk about Ace Bailey then the Collin Sexton trade and theories about why the Jazz did the deal they did. Then they discuss Jordan Clarkson getting bought out. Lastly, what can we expect from the rest of the offseason?By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 42: NBA Draft Instant Reaction with AJ - Jazz Draft Airious "Ace" Bailey
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1:10:56The Jazz didn't screw up! The guys get together to talk about Ace and all of the draft happenings after a wild 48-hours of rumors.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 41: Jackpotting Around Final 2025 NBA Draft Big Board of Integrity
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56:46The guys outline their final Top-30 big board with explanations about prospects and tiers. The definitive big board discussion the internet needed. Come for the big board discussion and stay to hear all of the ways Chad pisses off Art.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 40: Tony Jones from The Athletic - Draft and Offseason Preview
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1:19:02What's up with Ace Bailey? Are the Jeremiah Fears rumors real? VJ Edgecombe, Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel, Khaman Maluach all in play at #5? Could the Utah Jazz move up or back in the draft? What to expect with a Walker Kessler extension? Who may or may not get moved and what exactly is their value? Plus much more!…
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Episode 39: Are we in DAinger? Fake Trade Ideas - Walker Kessler
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1:38:26The guys discuss Austin Ainge's hiring and try to make sense of the noise coming out of the front office. Then they discuss the potential Walker Kessler extension and in their quest to fake trade the vets they outline potential Walker Kessler trades.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 38: Fake Trade Ideas - Lauri Markkanen
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54:15The guys are on a quest to fake trade all of our players. First up is Lauri Markkanen.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 37: Keandre Ashley of Hoop Intellect - NBA Draft Talk
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1:11:45Keandre Ashley, the founder of Hoop Intellect joins the guys to discuss his thoughts on the 2025 NBA Draft. Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, or Tre Johnson? Who should the Jazz target at 5 and 21? Who has surprising upside? What second-round players could be available? Plus much more! Subscribe to the Hoop Intellect Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.co…
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Episode 36: Jackpotting Around NBA Mock Draft
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2:01:56The Jackpotting Around Draft Council get together for their annual post-lottery mock draft. Listen to what Art, Chad, AJ, Josh, Zack, and Dray all have to say about how the draft could turn out.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 35: Instant NBA Draft Lottery Reaction
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1:09:00Art and Chad give their instant reaction to the NBA Draft Lottery raw and unfiltered. They try to explore their feelings about what just happened. They work through the top of the draft to figure out which picks and players may be available. Art is sad. Chad is fully Kon-pilled.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 34: BREAKING CONTROVERSY - Should the Jazz RISK IT ALL for Giannis?
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1:49:28Art and Chad discuss whether the Jazz should make a move for Giannis or Dame. They also talk about what to do with the Darkest Timeline and the Dylan Timeline. All that and much more in this EXCLUSIVE podcast.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 33: Accountability and The Sacred Timeline
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1:39:13Art and Chad discuss the end of the season and media day. Then they take accountability for their preseason predictions. They close this podcast episode by discussing The Sacred Timeline. What if the ping pong balls do bounce our way?By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Art and Chad welcome Dray Mottishaw to the podcast to discuss the NBA Draft. Dray defends his love for VJ Edgecombe against Art who loves Dylan Harper. Then the guys plan flags for players they love and hate in the draft.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 31: Art and Chad Get Deep in Their Bags - Listener Mailbag Edition
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1:00:54- What happens if we get Cooper Flagg? What about Dylan Harper? - How should the Jazz approach the 2025-26 season? - Would you take the guaranteed #2 pick right now? - Does John Collins fit the timeline? - How can we improve the halftime entertainment?By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Using Purpose-Driven Process To Make Scaling Fun Again with Chad Kessler and Jennifer Cresswell
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20:30Are you spending more time putting out fires in your business than planning for its future? In this episode, Chad Kessler is joined by Jennifer Cresswell, founder of ThoughtGrow, to explore how uncovering the 'WHY' behind the right processes can turn chaos into clarity. Jennifer shares her journey from engineering to entrepreneurship and reveals th…
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Episode 30: Emotion Dump and Lauri Markkanen Trade?
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53:51Art and Chad got a couple of things they got to get off of their chests. Then they discuss their disagreements on a potential Lauri Markkanen trade.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Stop Delegating, Start Empowering for Leadership That Scales with Chad Kessler and Dr. Bryan Deptula
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36:20Leaders aren’t born—they’re made. And with today's workplace being reshaped by and AI and the pandemic, leaders must now RE-learn how to lead. In this episode, Chad Kessler sits down with Dr. Bryan Deptula—author, speaker, and leadership consultant—to explore the art and science of leadership. Drawing from neuroscience-based leadership development …
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Episode 29: Draft SZN Kickoff Mock Draft 1.0
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1:41:54Art and Chad welcome their longtime JazzFanz forum friend and draft expert Cy to kickoff draft SZN. The guys walk through a mock draft and discuss which prospects they love and hate.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 28: The People's Champ - Andy Larsen!
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1:12:22Andy Larsen joins Art and Chad to discuss: - The Jazz moves and non-moves at the trade deadline. - Why the vets are still here. - The short term plan for the team this summer and next year. - How the Jazz young players are performing and where he has the most/least amount of belief. - Can we fix tanking? Subscribe to Andy Larsen's post-game "The Tr…
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Episode 27: Trader Danny Bets on Chaos
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1:24:44Art & Chad discuss Danny Ainge's bet that the Phoenix Suns will suck. Then the guys talk about how this tank is different and marvelous. Finally, they reveal the exact trades the Utah Jazz will be making at the trade deadline.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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First an update on tank watch that hopefully helps Jazz fans not crash out. Then Art and Chad get in their bag for trade season with tons of mock trades fresh out of the trade machine.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 25: A Very Clayton Festivus
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1:12:31Art and Chad are joined by the Clayton brothers Dan and Ken to celebrate the Utah Jazz/NBA Festivus. Airing of Grievances Feats of Strength Festivus Miracles Follow us on X/Twitter: Art @ArtTakesNote Chad @jpottingaround Dan @danclayt0n Ken @k_claytBy Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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How Exhausted Leaders Limit Business Growth with Chad Kessler and Melissa Carson
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31:58When leaders neglect their endurance, it’s not just their work that suffers—everything around them does. Including their ability to scale up. In this episode Chad Kessler chats with endurance leadership specialist Melissa Carson to explore how leaders can manage their energy to avoid burnout, build resilient teams, and keep their organizations thri…
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Episode 24: Thanksgiving with your Drunk Uncles
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53:32Your drunk uncles Art and Chad are here to say wild things about basketball (that they both kind of believe) that are sure to offend your basketball sensibilities. Consider this practice for tolerating your weird relatives. Happy Thanksgiving!By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 23: Jordan Clarkson's Favorite Podcast
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1:16:18- Jordan Clarkson's favorite podcast! - The Jazz are fine... this is fine. - Should Cody Williams get some G-League time? - We have too many big button jackets. - First look at the top-7 prospects on our big boards. - Tank watch and guess the record!By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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- The origin of Hard Willy - "Are we worried?" scale - Kyle Filipowski is REALLY good - Tank Watch (looking amazing) - Predict the recordBy Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Streamlining Operations For Explosive Growth with Yong Kim and Erica Quigley
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33:27You'll never scale up...if your operations aren't in order. If you feel like your growth is two steps forward, then one step back, this episode is for you. Today Yong Kim sits down with Erica Quigley, CEO of Poka-Yoke Solutions and a business operations expert, to explore what it takes to streamline your business operations so you can scale up. Eri…
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Episode 21: What is Jackpotting Around?
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1:06:15- We explain the origin of the podcast name. - Say something nice... say something mean. - Keyonte George check-in! - Danny Ainge texts(!) - Who says no? - Tank update and predict the recordBy Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Driving Profit by Turning Silos Into Synergies with John Reed, Rich McLaughlin and Martin Cunningham
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30:55How can breaking down silos between sales, operations, and finance drive profits and scale your business? In this episode of Scaling Up, host John Reed, a Fractional Chief Revenue Officer, is joined by Rich McLaughlin, an EOS Implementor, and Martin Cunningham, a Fractional CFO, to explore the transformative power of cross-department collaboration.…
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- Sad Taylor Hendricks injury news. - Collin Sexton discussion 2.0 - Trick or treat? - The tank is so strong! - Guess the record this week!By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Art & Chad discuss the opening game of the 2024-25 season for the Utah Jazz. They give their instant reactions and play a game called "It's just one game, but...".By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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CRO Summit: Overcoming Common Roadblocks To Scaling
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40:51Your journey to scaling up is unique, but the challenges you face are not. That's why today's episode is so impacting. We've gathered four Fractional Chief Revenue Officers to reveal the common roadblocks every business faces on the path to growth—and, more importantly, how to overcome them. Whether you're struggling with sales strategies, team dyn…
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Episode 18: Preseason Thoughts and Predictions for Upcoming Season
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1:56:25Art & Chad review the quiet offseason, give thoughts about the first preseason game, and make predictions for the upcoming Jazz basketball season.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Using HR To Drive Sales Success with John Reed and Amy Ferguson
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38:54Are your HR and Sales Departments talking? If not, you're in trouble. In this episode, we explore the crucial intersection of HR and Sales, showing how streamlining these two areas can unlock major growth. My guest today is Amy Ferguson, an expert in human capital management and payroll systems. Together we share insights on the hidden challenges o…
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Why Pricing By Cost Lowers Your Profit with Chad Kessler and Todd Snelgrove
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33:47You're making less profit than you should. Why? Because you're pricing by cost instead of value. My guest today is Todd Snelgrove, a global expert in pricing with over 20 years in helping businesses of all sizes capture the value they bring to their customers. As an author of the best seller, 'Value First, Then Price' Todd has helped companies of a…
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Avoiding Disaster as You Scale – Cybersecurity Done Right with Yong Kim and Tony Chiappetta
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47:04Scaling up your business can come to a screeching halt when faced with a cybersecurity issue. Unfortunately, many companies never fully recover from the loss of funds, reputation, and growth. In this episode, we welcome Tony Chiappetta, president of CHIPS and a cybersecurity expert who has successfully re-engineered a solution originally designed f…
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Using Video to Differentiate and Scale Your Company with John Yankanich and Mike Perlow
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44:48Corporate video can be a powerful tool for scaling your business—but how? In this episode, John Yankanich is joined by Mike Perlow, a former TV sportscaster turned video production entrepreneur. Mike shares his journey of growing Perlow Productions from the ground up, offering valuable lessons learned along the way. He provides behind-the-scenes in…
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AI vs. C-Suite, Friend or Foe? With Yong Kim and Ab DeWeese
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39:42Should business leaders use AI themselves or trust their experience and keep it 100% human? The answer to smart scaling may surprise you. Today I'm joined by Fractional AI Officer Ab DeWeese. Ab has a background in theoretical physics, pure and applied mathematics, and software engineering. He retired from his first business at just 37. He's also a…
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Why Cold Calling (Done Right) Will Never Die with John Reed and Bill Dillon
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41:01Are you struggling to fill your sales pipeline and drive business growth? In this episode of Scaling Up, John Reed and Bill Dillon explore the essential role of cold outreach in building a sustainable pipeline and achieving sales targets. Together they discuss the challenges of motivating sales teams, the changing landscape of data management, and …
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Using Culture as a Growth Catalyst with Chad Kessler, Jeff Kenton, and Jenn Marion
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51:20What role does culture play in scaling your business? The answer may surprise you. In this episode, Chad Kessler is joined by EOS Implementer Jenn Marion and Jeff Kenton. Together the three share compelling insights on how the culture at your own company will drive employee engagement, create customer-centric sales strategy, and manage business ris…
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Episode 17: Warriors Tears and Tanking Fears
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1:12:18Art Cummings and Chad Lowe discuss the aftermath of the Lauri Markkanen extension and what comes next for the Utah Jazz.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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From Chaos to Control with John Yankanich and James Wisdom
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44:29Ever wonder how to scale up your business without losing control or sacrificing quality? You're not alone. Every growing organization faces this challenge. In today's episode of Scaling Up, our host John Yankanich is joined by the Professional Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) Implementor James Wisdom. Together they share actionable advice bor…
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Joe Mindak's Networking Revolution with Yong Kim
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29:11Ever wondered how a simple act of connecting people can turn into a thriving business model? In this episode of "Scaling Up," Yong Kim dives deep into the entrepreneurial journey of Joe Mindak, the mastermind behind the Connective Networking Group and the innovative Nolodex platform. Get ready to uncover the secrets of transforming networking into …
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Meet Your Greater Philadelphia Sales Xceleration Advisors
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47:01Have you ever wondered how fractional sales leadership can transform your business? In this episode of Scaling Up, we explore this very question with Yong Kim, John Yankanich, John Reed, and Chad Kessler. These seasoned sales leaders share their unique journeys and valuable insights into scaling small and medium-sized businesses. This episode is pa…
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Episode 16: An Open Letter to the Golden State Warriors
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56:42This episode is an open letter to the Golden State Warriors from Art Cummings & Chad Lowe regarding the Lauri Markkanen trade negotiations.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 15: Tony Jones from The Athletic - Draft and Trade SZN Burning Questions
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1:16:03Tony Jones from The Athletic joins Art Cummings and Chad Lowe to talk all things Utah Jazz basketball. After Tony recovers from the Mikal Bridges to the Knicks atomic Woj bomb he lets Jazz fans know what to expect going into an uncertain Jazz offseason. All things draft and trade season including all of the burning questions are discussed.…
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Aligning Sales and Financial Goals for Success
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42:42Ever wondered how the CFO of a rapidly scaling company manages to keep financial chaos at bay? Join us in our latest episode of Scaling Up as we uncover the inside story with Libu Mathew, the CFO of NJ Bio. Libu shares his transformative journey from being the solitary financial handler to leading a robust team, offering indispensable advice on cas…
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Episode 14: 2024 NBA Mock Draft 1.0
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1:35:15Art (@ArtTakesNote) & Chad (@jpottingaround) are joined by AJ (@AJ3Jazz) Josh (@jayjazz3), and Zack (@ZP12Hoops) to discuss and create the 1.0 version of Jackpotting Around's first 2024 NBA Mock Draft.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 13: Listener Mailbag Edition
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1:37:38Art Cummings & Chad Lowe answer questions submitted by listeners in this listener mailbag edition episode of the Jackpotting Around Podcast.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 12: Decoding Danny and If We Did It... Here's How It Happened
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1:28:00Art Cummings & Chad Lowe talk playoff basketball and decode Danny Ainge's end of season press conference. If we did trade Lauri Markkanen... Here's how it happened.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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Episode 11: End of Season Review and Early Offseason Preview
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30:57Art Cummings reviews the end of the season for the Utah Jazz and does an early offseason preview of what might be in store for the Jazz this summer.By Art Cummings and Chad Lowe
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