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The Catholic Gentleman

John Heinen, Devin Schadt, Sam Guzman

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The Catholic Gentleman is a show for Catholic Men on topics related to living your best life in the modern world. Featuring conversations on all aspects of masculinity, as well as interviews with experts, the show seeks to provide practical insights for men of all ages. There are great Catholic men who are intentionally committed to the difficult work of actual life. Join us and be one of them. Hosts include John Heinen, Sam Guzman, and Devin Schadt. Episodes are released weekly. Be a Man. B ...
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This Whole Life

Pat & Kenna Millea

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How does our mental health relate to our faith? How can we become whole while living in a broken world? Every day, we all strive to encounter God amidst the challenges of balancing faith and family, work and leisure, our sense of self and complicated relationships. Pat & Kenna Millea bring joy, hope, and wisdom to those who believe there *is* a connection between holiness and happiness. Kenna is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist; Pat served for 15 years as a youth minister; together the ...
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by former Protestant pastor Keith Nester and author and speaker Devin Schadt to discuss the process of Catholic conversion from two sides of the same story. In a first for this podcast we unfold the narrative of a Catholic conversion–Keith’s conversion, in this case–from two different perspectives…
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“For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you received a spirit of adoption, through which we cry, ‘Abba, Father!’” ~ Romans 8:15 Why are so many fathers struggling? Is it possible for fathers to live peaceful lives today? How can a man change the world through his identity as a father? In episode 79 of This Whole Lif…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Levi Sikes, the musical genius behind Former Ruins, to talk about his journey into Catholicism. What drew Levi out of his Evangelical Christian tradition, what drew him into Catholicism, and what continues to draw him in, evermore. And, as a musician, how Levi strives to bridge this gap, to exp…
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Today, John and Sam are excited to announce a new host to our show, Devin Schadt. He will be joining us weekly to answer the tough questions that men face and add to the depth of knowledge and discussion. This week we talk about warning signs that your wife is not feeling loved. We open up about what we have each learned about truly loving our wive…
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Many men think staying in the marriage is enough. They don't cheat, they provide, they avoid conflict, but is this all there is to marriage? In this episode, John Heinen and Devin Schadt expose the silent drift that leads so many marriages to die long before anyone leaves. They unpack what 73% of divorcing couples identify as the root issue, and re…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Piece Benefield. A fierce defender of Calvinism, Pierce converted to the Catholic faith after a long and fascinating journey – including going head-to-head with Catholics in a group chat, fulling intending to convert them to Calvinism, but being challenged by their through and thoroughly biblic…
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What do you do when every conversation with your wife seems to go sideways, even when you're trying to do the right thing? John Heinen and Devin Schadt sit down to expose the hidden habits that slowly destroy communication within marriages. With spiritual clarity and lived experience, they unpack how small patterns, like avoidance, assumptions, or …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Mark Saunders, who has an incredible "reversion" story to tell. Raised in a devout Catholic household Mark explains why he initially left the Catholic Church – despite working as an altar server and even discerning the priesthood at one point! – and how his success as a musician led to a life o…
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"Love should be seen as something which in a sense never ‘is’ but is always only ‘becoming’, and what it becomes depends upon the contribution of both persons and the depth of their commitment.” ~ St. John Paul II In episode 78 of This Whole Life, hosts Kenna and Pat Millea welcome Dr. Mario Sacasa, a seasoned marriage and family therapist and host…
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What if the biggest threat to your family isn’t outside your home? John Heinen sits down with Andrew Laubacher, musician, speaker, and Executive Director of Humanality, to expose how your smartphone has been reshaping your attention, your memory, and your children’s brains. With billions of dollars behind it, Big Tech wasn’t designed to serve you a…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by ETWN's Dr. Matthew Bunson to talk about everything related to the Pope. We discuss Pope Leo XIV but also the history of the papacy, the biblical roots of the idea of the pope, how popes are elected and how that's changed over time, why the development of papacy authority is actually not what yo…
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Why are 85% of Catholic children walking away from the Faith, even after years of weekly Mass, sacraments, and for many, Catholic school and youth group? John Heinen sits down with Devin Schadt to expose what parents today have been missing and why the solution is found inside the home. With wisdom drawn from recent studies, Church teaching, and pe…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by early Church historian, scholar, and translator Dr. DP Curtin, to talk about what the documents left behind by the very earliest Christians tell us about the faith. Dr. Curtin, translator of hundreds and hundreds of documents from the Early Church, sits down to explain just how Catholic-soundin…
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“This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” ~ John 13:35 Am I really "pro-life"? How does loving others impact my mental & spiritual health? How am I supposed to treat the people who are hard to love? In Episode 77 of This Whole Life, Pat Millea welcomes Fr. Nathan LaLiberte for a powerful conversation a…
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What happens when your wife begins to pull away, and you can't figure out why? What's more is that everything you do to help fix the situation seems to fall short. John Heinen and Devin Schadt discuss the hidden physical, spiritual, and emotional forces that quietly fracture Catholic marriages. Drawing on Scripture, theology, and hard-won experienc…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by the wonderful Dr. Carly York, a former Evangelical worship leader, a student of church music, a musician in her own right, and a Catholic convert. Dr. York's story – a journey from small-town baptist music ministry to studying Gregorian Chant at the Catholic University of America – is an incred…
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What if the most important spiritual formation in your child’s life isn’t happening at church—but at your dinner table? Today, John Heinen and Devin Schadt discuss how family dinner has quietly lost its soul—and how fathers must bring it back, not just as a routine, but as a call and obligation. The culture has shaped the dinner table into what we …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Deacon Frank – a deacon, author, columnist, and speaker – to unpack the biblical roots, proof, and evidence for the Perpetual Virginity of Mary. Using the Bible as the jumping off point, Deacon Frank is speaking directly to our non-Catholic Christian audience as he explains what makes Catholics…
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“See, I am sending you out like sheep into the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves." ~ Matthew 10:16 Is there any way to make parenting less stressful? What can I do to make our life less chaotic? How can our family be a little more sane & connected? Let's face it - parenting in the 21st century is not for the faint of hea…
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What happens when the child you love won’t speak to you anymore? When the hurt runs deep—and it’s your fault? John Heinen and Devin Schadt go deep into one of the hardest realities a Catholic father can face: seeking forgiveness from a child who’s been wounded by your failure. Drawing from personal experience, they walk through the steps of Recogni…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Catholic Answers author, apologist, and columnist John Clark to talk about the stigmata – the incredible, miraculous wounds of Christ as experienced by some of the most profound saints down through history. And, the incredible evangelical power that the stigmata – and stigmatists – have today! …
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What happens when your money helps build the very culture you're trying to protect your soul—and your family—from? John Heinen sits down with Chris McMahon—Catholic entrepreneur, father of five, and founder of two financial firms, including Aquinas Wealth Advisors—to expose what’s broken in modern investing and how faithful men can do better. With …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Jannah Russell to share her remarkable Catholic conversion story. Raised in the Jehovah's Witness tradition, Jannah explains how her and her husband became disillusioned with the group, eventually leaving, and rediscovering faith on their own. Their journey, ever seeking the truth of Christ and…
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"Do you not know that the runners in the stadium all run in the race, but only one wins the prize? Run so as to win." ~ 1 Corinthians 9:24 Are youth sports helping or hurting our kids? Can sports be a healthy way of honoring God? How can my children and I stay grounded in the midst of their sports? In Episode 75 of This Whole Life, hosts Pat and Ke…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by the incredible Dr. Peter Kreeft, philosopher, theologian, and one of the most important modern converts to the Catholic faith to unpack his own conversion journey and discuss why it makes good logical, philosophical, biblical, and historical sense to become Catholic. We talk about his journey f…
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What does it take to become a man of clarity, courage, and spiritual fire in a world that wants you passive, distracted, and numb? Today, John Heinen welcomes Fr. Boniface Hicks—Benedictine monk, spiritual director, and author. For over 20 years, Fr. Boniface has guided men through spiritual warfare, identity crises, and the hidden wounds that keep…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by my two friends and former Evangelical seminarians (and, in Chris's case, a pastor) to discuss the importance of the Pope. Why is the Pope so important? In their trademark cordial and insightful style, Brandon and Chris help us to dig deeply into the biblical and historical roots of the papacy, …
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“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone." ~ Matthew 18:15 Why do I get caught in the middle of arguments in my family? Why is it so tempting to bring someone else into a tense situation? How do I break the cycle of being brought into triangles among my family & friends? In Episode 74 of This Whole Life…
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Every man fights invisible battles—fear, self-doubt, shame, and the lies he tells himself over and over about who he is and what he is good at. In this episode, John Heinen sits down with Devin Schadt to expose the real front line of spiritual warfare and personal growth: your thoughts. Together, they unpack how negative thinking becomes a self-ful…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Father Donald Haggerty, priest at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York and the author of a number of fine books including The Hour of Testing: Spiritual Depth and Insight in a Time of Ecclesial Uncertainty. We're talking about taking the temperature of society and responding to crises both in th…
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Men grow up with emotions they can't understand or explain—impatience, anger, frustration, even loneliness or sadness—and because they lack the framework for how to work with these emotions they are ultimately controlled by them. In this episode, John Heinen sits down with T.K. Coleman—top 100 podcaster (The Minimalists) and author of Emotional Clu…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by one of my all-time liturgical heroes Chris Carstens to talk all things liturgy – and the centrality of Christ at Mass. What is the liturgy? What is it meant to do and how are we meant to do it? Why do we worship liturgically? And how can we do it better? Plus, we talk about the future of the li…
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Jesus said to him, “What if I want him to remain until I come? What concern is it of yours? You follow me.” ~ John 21:22 Why do I get so angry at others' opinions & actions? How am I supposed to handle the evil & falsehood in the world? Why is it easier for me to explain what I'm against than what I'm for? In episode 73 of This Whole Life, hosts Ke…
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What does it take to master fear, stress, and anxiety in a world that constantly challenges men's confidence? Today, John Heinen welcomes Joe Hart, the transformational CEO of Dale Carnegie and Wall Street Journal bestselling author of 'Take Command.' As a converted lawyer leading a 100-year-old global organization while raising six children, Hart …
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In this special episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined, from Rome, by Fr. Haig Chahinian, a priest in the Armenian Catholic Church, and the CEO of Salt and Light Media, to talk about the importance of a pope, the papacy, and papal conclaves for the Eastern Catholic Churches. While Fr. Haig was originally scheduled to talk about Eastern Catholi…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by my friend Brian Jacobson, a former Protestant pastor and a convert to the Catholic faith, to unpack his incredible story and the reasons why he absolutely fell in love with the Catholic faith. From the initial realization – at an ecumenical Bible study – that him and his fellow Protestants coul…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by my friend author, podcaster, and former Episcopalian priest Andrew Petiprin to talk unpack one of the biggest misconceptions about the Catholic Church: that Catholicism is simply another Christian denomination. With aplomb, charity, and with Scripture and the history books in hand, Andrew expla…
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"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." ~ 1 Corinthians 13:7 Why do I get so hurt by others' actions? Why is it so hard for me to let things slide? How can I give people close to me the benefit of the doubt? In episode 72 of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat dive into the concept of Positive Sentiment Overri…
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What happens when more boys have smartphones than fathers in their homes? A groundbreaking UK research study called 'Lost Boys' has revealed alarming trends about young men today. John Heinen and Devin Schadt welcome back three-time guest Jim O'Day to respond to and unpack this landmark research and its implications. Together, they examine how the …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Hugh Owen, the founder and director of the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation to talk about the Catholic perspective on the literal story of creation. Can Catholics believe in a literal reading of Genesis? Has the Catholic Church officially adopted the theory of evolution? What does the sci…
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What starts as a small vice for men spirals into continuous sin, addiction, and spiritual destruction. Today, John Heinen and Devin Schadt tackle three devastating habits that plague virtually every man's journey. They reveal the surprising connection between self-perception and our most dangerous tendencies, showing how both thinking too little an…
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by my friend Matthew Becklo, writer, editor, and Publishing Director for Bishop Barron's Word on Fire Catholic Ministries, to talk about the Catholic "both/and" paradigm that uniquely defines the Church that Christ founded. Neither "earthbound" or too "heavenly-minded," Becklo shows how, time and …
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"...we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us." ~ Romans 5:3-5 How are Christians supposed to respond to suffering? How…
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As fathers of seven daughters between them, John Heinen and Devin Schadt understand the vital importance of authentic fatherhood. Statistics show girls without proper paternal presence are 4x more likely to face teen pregnancy, 2x more likely to battle depression, and a staggering 6x more likely to attempt suicide. Many end up trapped in cycles of …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by the one and only Fr. Robert Spitzer, SJ, PhD in a conversation that aims to turn the conventional tropes about Faith vs. Science on its head and to talk about areas where faith fills in the gaps left by science. The host of EWTN's Father Spitzer's Universe, the author of over 18 books and many …
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Timothy Reckart, nominated multiple times for Academy Awards, has 4 children and has gained exclusive insights into the political agenda in the film industry targeted at children. These insights have led him and other top-tier filmmakers to launch Sycamore Studios to combat this agenda. In this interview, John Heinen and Tim discuss his journey as …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Sophia Nikolai, a self-described anti-Catholic who is here to share her absolutely incredible conversion story with us. With an anti-Catholic, Evangelical background, Sophia considered herself firmly grounded in her Christian faith until an encounter with a quotation from the Early Church Fathe…
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“Man becomes an image of God not so much in the moment of solitude as in the moment of communion.” ~ St. John Paul II How do men connect with others? What makes it hard for men to have strong marriages & friendships? What can a man do to create healthier connections with others? This special episode of This Whole Life is the first "Relationship Rou…
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Marvel's Captain America, Anthony Mackie, recently spoke out about the "death of the American male". Which he states we have been living through for the last two decades. He then goes on to answer what makes a man and how to raise sons. However, does he get it right? Today, John Heinen and Devin Schadt unpack Mackie's provocative comments, explore …
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In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Jill Simons, author, speaker, and the driving force behind Many Parts Ministries, which helps Catholics discern their spiritual gifting and charisms. We're going to talk, this week, about how we figure out where we fit in the Catholic Church – especially for those who have just become Catholic,…
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