Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human.
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Speak Now: Consequences Later, The Ignorance Equation seeks to educate, to inform, to enlighten.
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For the smart, curious listener. Shows: Age of Miracles Hyperlegible Not Boring Founders Deeper Dives Anton Teaches Packy AI
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Welcome to Business in Boardshorts — a podcast for and about coastal entrepreneurs and business owners who channel their purpose and passion into a successful business. You never know where your next big idea will come from, right? That’s why in every episode, you’ll walk away inspired, refreshed, and armed with new ideas and perspectives you can use to grow professionally and personally. The thread throughout the podcast answers the question: “what ideas and beliefs drive entrepreneurs at e ...
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Josh Cary spent 40 years in hiding. That's right! He was hiding every part of himself in every situation, showing up in personal, social, and business trying to be the person he believed others expected of him. After feeling utterly exhausted from wearing that mask, and knowing deep down he is cut out for much more in this life, Josh ripped off the mask and is now on a mission to help other business-savvy professionals 'unmask' themselves too. Hear honest stories from successful entrepreneur ...
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From Rock Bottom to Radiant: The Power of Choosing Yourself with Leslie Jespersen
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21:59What does it really take to rebuild your life when everything falls apart... twice? Leslie Jespersen knows. In this raw and revealing conversation, Leslie shares how hitting two very different rock bottoms forced her to confront her deepest fears, rewrite her story, and finally step into her power. This isn’t your typical confidence pep talk. It’s …
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Inside a Billion-Dollar Mind: Wealth Building, Leadership, and Lasting Legacy with Ben Segal
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20:23What does it take to build and manage billions in assets while maintaining trust, leadership, and long-term vision? In this episode, Josh Cary sits down with Ben Segal, Managing Director at UBS Private Wealth, to explore what truly drives financial success and personal fulfillment. Ben isn’t just another financial advisor; he’s a former tax attorne…
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Fantasy Worlds and the Perception of Reality: How Your Emotions, Programming, and Culture Shape What You See
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22:39What if the world you see isn’t the real one? In this mind-expanding conversation, author Khaled Sadeq joins Josh Cary to explore how perception shapes reality, and why understanding this could change everything about how you experience your life. Drawing from philosophy, neuroscience, psychology, and evolutionary biology, Khaled shares how your up…
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How Wander Went Asset-Light and 100x'ed its Locations: A Deeper Dive with John Andrew Entwistle
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50:30Wander raised $50+ million in a Series B led QED and Fifth Wall. The fun part is, Wander did it by throwing out a lot of what we discussed in the first Wander Deep Dive — which, at the time, I said was the absolute right way to do things — and growing insanely fast while maintaining its high quality bar. I started doing these Deeper Dives, followin…
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Can You Really Retire on Bitcoin? The Truth Behind Crypto IRAs
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25:41What if your retirement plan included Bitcoin instead of mutual funds? In this riveting episode, Josh Cary sits down with Chris Kline, co-founder and Chief Revenue Officer of BitcoinIRA.com, the world’s first and most trusted crypto IRA platform. This conversation takes a deep dive into how everyday Americans are building wealth and securing their …
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A Tale of Two Vaticans (OpenAI & the American Pope) with Reggie James
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1:19:59Reggie James is a founder, the author of the Product Lost substack, one of the most original thinkers I know, and one of my top choices to be the Creative Director of America.In this conversation, we discuss his latest piece, A tale of two Vaticans (or, OpenAI building an unholy spirit), which you should read before listening, or after. No one but …
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The Entrepreneur Behind a Cure: Martin Lehr’s Mission to Outsmart Cancer
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24:53Cancer touches everyone. Whether it’s a parent, a friend, or ourselves, the battle against this relentless disease is deeply personal, and Martin Lehr is on the frontlines. As co-founder and CEO of Context Therapeutics, a publicly traded biotech company, Martin is developing a powerful new class of cancer-fighting drugs known as T-cell engagers. Th…
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Escape the Treadmill: How to Build a Self-Running, Profitable Business with Less Stress
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20:34What if the key to growing your business wasn’t pushing harder, but pulling back? In this eye-opening episode, Josh Cary sits down with Sadek El-Assaad, business transformation expert and author of Higher Profit, Lower Stress. After burning out in his own company, Sadek made a radical shift... he removed himself from the day-to-day entirely and emp…
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Episode 76: Come on! Daddy Needs a New Pair of Shoes
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1:16:56Calling all high rollers! The Two Humans roll the dice and discuss why humans love to gamble. Trust me, this episode is a sure bet! Episode 76: Come on! Daddy Needs a New Pair of Shoes An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http://www.intro2anthro.podbean…
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How Marley Jaxx Turned Her Wedding Into a 3-Day Paid Event (and How You Can Too)
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29:30What if your wedding didn’t just cost you money, but made you money? That’s exactly what entrepreneur and marketing powerhouse Marley Jaxx is doing. In this electrifying episode, Marley shares her bold and unfiltered plan to monetize her actual wedding... and no, this isn’t just a quirky idea, it’s a fully branded, multi-day festival experience com…
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Golden Age with Mike Solana (Hyperlegible 008)
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55:17Mike Solana is the founder and Editor-in-Chief of Pirate Wires, one of my favorite publications on the whole internet and the only one I read every day. You’ll hear this about a lot of our guests, because this is why I do Hyperlegible, but Mike is one of the best writers doing it today, one of the few whose name in my inbox gives me a little dopami…
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From $1K to $2.2B: Gary Evans Reveals the Move That Changed Everything
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23:02Gary Evans isn’t just another CEO. He’s a four-time public company leader, a Wall Street dealmaker who’s raised $7B in capital, and a man who once turned a $1,000 investment into a $2.2 billion sale. Today, he's back in the arena, this time leading U.S. Antimony Corporation, the only fully integrated Antimony supplier in the Western Hemisphere. Thi…
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Episode 75: I’ll Topia if U-topia: Why It’s So Hard to Create a Perfect World.
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1:17:16Think YOU can do it better? In this episode, The Two Humans take a swing at creating a better world. The suggestion box is outside the entrance to the communal showers. Episode 75: I’ll Topia if U-topia: Why It’s So Hard to Create a Perfect World. An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-as…
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50 Things I've Learned Writing Construction Physics with Brian Potter (Hyperlegible 007)
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1:03:35Nobody on the internet writes about all of the complexity involved in actually building things -- from homes to jet engines -- better than Brian Potter, the author of Construction Physics. I am a huge fan of Brian's writing. I use it as a reference for a lot of my pieces. I once tweeted, "Construction Physics is a national treasure and the presiden…
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Tired of Feeling Overlooked? Here’s the Visibility Blueprint to Finally Get Noticed
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26:49What if the financial industry’s best-kept secret wasn’t a stock tip, but a storytelling strategy? In this episode, Josh Cary is joined by longtime friend and trailblazer Mitch Slater, a 35-year veteran financial advisor at UBS, who has made it his mission to help advisors stop being invisible and start being known. Mitch is leading a quiet revolut…
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From Crazy Idea to Life-Saving Innovation: How John Erbey is Transforming Kidney Care
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18:22What if a single idea, born out of frustration and a moment of clarity, could change the lives of millions and save the healthcare system billions? This episode is a front-row seat to that exact possibility. Josh Cary sits down with John Erbey, founder and CEO of Roivios, to explore his revolutionary medical device, JuxtaFlow. Designed to sustain k…
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Forsaking Industrialism with Conrad Bastable (Hyperlegible 006)
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1:34:45In this timely conversation, Conrad Bastable joins Packy to break down his epic essay Forsaking Industrialism and explore why the West has abandoned manufacturing while China built a world-beating industrial platform over decades. Read it here for the full experience: Forsaking Industrialism Conrad has been planning this essay for months, and he co…
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She Went From Sales Rep to CEO of a $300M+ Company: Use Vera Quinn's Blueprint to Succeed
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21:03What does it take to go from answering a newspaper ad to running a multimillion-dollar company with over 4,000 sales reps? In this episode, we sit down with Vera Quinn, CEO of Cydcor, who did exactly that. This isn’t just a story about business growth, it’s a crash course in grit, merit-based success, and personal transformation. Vera opens up abou…
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Skittle Factory Dementia Monkey Titty Monetization with Parakeet (Hyperlegible
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59:35Pseudonymous writer Parakeet joins me to discuss her viral essay "Skittle Factory Dementia Monkey Titty Monetization." I first heard about Parakeet a couple weeks ago when I saw half of my Twitter feed and half of my Substack Notes feed sharing her essay, including a bunch of people I wouldn't expect to share an essay with "Monkey Titty" in the tit…
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The Truth About Credit Scores and Financial Freedom with Castleigh Johnson
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24:56Ever wonder how your credit score is actually calculated? Or why financial institutions seem to make it so confusing to get ahead? This episode is a crash course in the real rules of the financial game, and how to start winning. Josh Cary is joined by Castleigh Johnson, founder and CEO of My Home Pathway, who reveals the hidden truths about credit,…
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Hyperlegible 004: Alex Danco, Scarcity and Abundance in 2025
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1:01:59On Episode 004 of Hyperlegible, I speak with Alex Danco. It was a treat. Alex is on my Mount Rushmore of internet writers. When I’m writing well, his writing has probably had an influence on mine. In this conversation, we talk about his new essay, which is an update to some of his older pieces, Scarcity and Abundance in 2025. If you want to underst…
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Julian Lehr, The Case Against Conversational Interfaces
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39:07In Episode 003 of Hyperlegible, host Packy McCormick talks with Julian Lehr about his recent essay The Case Against Conversational Interfaces and why natural language might not be the ideal way to interact with computers. Julian explains why conversational AI should complement rather than replace graphical user interfaces, and shares insights about…
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Hyperlegible 002: Utsav Mamoria, How to live an intellectually rich life
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41:00Utsav Mamoria recently wrote How to Live an Intellectually Rich Life on his Substack, Tumse Na Ho Paayega. It blew up, breaking out of containment in India and spanning the globe to the tune of 1,100 likes at the time of recording. For good reason: Utsav combines philosophy, mathematics, biographies, personal experience, and hand-drawn sketches to …
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Hyperlegible 001: Tina He, Jevons Paradox: A personal perspective
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40:20For the first episode of Hyperlegible, I talked to my friend Tina He (@fkpxls on twitter) who writes the excellent Fakepixels, which she recently brought back to life after a four year hibernation and on which she’s dropped gems each week since.Last week, Tina wrote an essay called Jevons Paradox: A personal perspective about something surprising s…
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Why Principals Are Burning Out and What Jackie Campbell Is Doing About It
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25:43Leadership in education is at a breaking point. Principals across the country are overwhelmed, isolated, and under immense pressure to deliver results without the tools or support systems to do so. In this compelling episode, Josh Cary sits down with veteran educator and transformational leader Jackie Campbell, a Southern California principal and C…
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Episode 74: Taking a Sit: 5,000 Years of Taking a Load Off
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1:17:05You better take a knee because in this episode, The Two Humans discuss everything from squatting to bean bag chairs. Episode 74: Taking a Sit: 5,000 Years of Taking a Load Off An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http://www.intro2anthro.podbean.com http…
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You Can Heal Yourself: Inside the Science and Spirit of Self-Healing with Dr. Glenn Swartwout
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23:34What if your body already knows how to heal, and all you need to do is get out of the way? In this mind-expanding conversation, Josh Cary sits down with Dr. Glenn Swartwout, known as the Wizard of Wellness, to explore how we can reclaim our natural healing abilities. As both a doctor of optometry and naturopathy, Dr. Swartwout shares real-world exa…
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How a Christmas Miracle and a Pizza Review Saved Tiny Brick Oven from Closing | Will Fagg
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38:39What happens when your dream business is on the brink of collapse, and then, seemingly out of nowhere, a miracle arrives? This episode is a masterclass in resilience, reinvention, and the power of community. Josh Cary sits down with Will Fagg, the owner (or, as he puts it, the "shepherd") of Tiny Brick Oven Pizza in Baltimore. Facing financial stru…
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Are you a hepcat, a skibidi rizzler, an NPC, or a square? In this episode, The Two Humans wrap their tongues around the latest lingo. You dig, Daddy-o? Episode 73: Slinging the Slang An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http://www.intro2anthro.podbean.c…
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Ryan Delk: To Fix the School System, Build Schools
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46:56In April 2022, Packy wrote a Deep Dive on Primer: https://www.notboring.co/p/primer-the-ambitious-home-for-ambitious Three years later, a lot has changed. Primer is building schools. The opportunity is both bigger and more challenging than it was then. In this conversation, Packy and Primer CEO Ryan Delk discuss the need to fix in K-12 education. R…
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The Wealth-Building Secrets of Real Estate: How to Take Control of Your Financial Future with Steve Seymour
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26:12Ever wondered how some people build wealth through real estate while others struggle to get started? In this episode, Steve Seymour, founder of VRA Realty, reveals the mindset, strategies, and steps needed to create lasting financial success through real estate investment. From his early entrepreneurial hustle as a teenager to running a brokerage t…
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Breaking Free from Stress: How to Rewire Your Mind and Body with Ariel Zeigler
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22:56Are you stuck in a cycle of stress, burnout, and overwhelm? You’re not alone. Many have accepted stress as an unavoidable part of life, but what if you could break free? In this powerful episode, Ariel Ziegler, a Disentanglement Mentor, shares how she helps clients escape chronic stress by addressing the root causes, starting with the gut microbiom…
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How to Build Powerful Business Relationships That Actually Pay Off | Cate Luzio, Luminary Founder and CEO
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25:40Can effective collaboration actually bolster your career ambitions rather than stifle them? Join us as we unravel this intriguing question with Cate Luzio, the powerhouse founder and CEO of Luminary. Discover how embracing collaboration can be a game-changer for leadership and organizational triumph. Cate shares her insightful perspective on the di…
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The Courage to Follow Your True Path with Will Moye
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28:26What happens when a top Houston defense attorney decides to leave it all behind for the world of entrepreneurship? Join us as Will Moy shares his courageous journey from a high-powered legal career to a path more aligned with his values and personal happiness. Despite his success in generating significant revenue, Will realized that financial achie…
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Rediscovering Passion: Brooke Berman's Journey from Playwright to Filmmaker
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24:05Meet Brooke Berman, the talented writer, director, and filmmaker of "Ramona at Midlife," as she takes us on an intimate and inspiring journey of reinvention. Transitioning from a successful career as a playwright in New York to tackling the film industry in Los Angeles, Brooke opens up about moments of self-doubt and the challenges of feeling unful…
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Building Authentic Connections: Leveraging Social Media for Organic Growth with Robin Wilson
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24:35Unlock the secrets of creating genuine connections on social media with our interview featuring Robin Wilson, the mastermind behind the Social Grenade app. Robin shares her groundbreaking approach to fostering organic growth by focusing on the often-neglected "social" side of social media. Discover how sharing genuine, personal stories like the war…
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Unlock Your True Potential: Transformative Wellness with Katie Ruffino
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27:20Balancing a demanding career with a fulfilling personal life is a challenge many of us face, and our guest, Katie Ruffino, knows this journey all too well. As a physician assistant who pivoted to become a holistic health and life coach, Katie shares her personal story of transformation and what led her to choose the PA path over becoming a doctor. …
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Episode 72: One Singularity Sensation Every Exponential Step It Takes
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1:10:40Forget Bladerunner, I Robot, and The Jetsons! In this episode, The Two Humanoids discuss the truth about the coming AI-human merger. You’re going to need a full battery pack for this one! Episode 72: One Singularity Sensation Every Exponential Step It Takes An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John L…
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The Addiction of Hope: Nurturing Creativity and Resilience in the Film Industry with Anne-Marie Johnson and Marty Gottlieb
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32:13Anne-Marie Johnson and Marty Gottlieb, the creative duo behind "The Addiction of Hope," share an inspiring dialogue about their 40-year partnership in life and art. This episode reveals how Anne-Marie, starring in and producing the film, and Marty, who wears multiple hats as writer, director, and producer, craft their creative journey together. We …
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Nurturing Young Minds: T.K. Jenkins' Journey from Social Worker to Beloved Children's Author
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23:29Have you ever wondered what it takes to transform a casual conversation into a magical trilogy? Join us as we uncover the remarkable story of T.K. Jenkins, a former children's social worker who turned an unexpected chat with her daughter into the enchanting world of "Lydia Rose & the Annals of Veena." In this engaging episode, T.K. shares her journ…
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Thriving in Business: Don Ford on Mastering Law, Strategic Partnerships, and Long-Term Success
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24:01Don Ford, the visionary behind the esteemed Houston-based law firm Ford + Bergner LLP, shares his insights on what it takes to sustain and thrive in business for over 25 years. We uncover Don's passion for both law and business, a unique synergy that has driven his firm's enduring success. From his early influences to his strategic choice of partne…
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Mastering Talent Acquisition and Business Development in the Legal Sector with Richard Brock
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24:41Richard Brock, the author of "Win the Talent Game," opens the door to a deep conversation about talent acquisition that every entrepreneur needs to hear. As the founder and CEO of Onboard Legal, Richard shares his wealth of knowledge on how law firms and corporations can pinpoint and attract the right talent. From recognizing the full spectrum of w…
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From Humble Beginnings to Empowering Change: The Inspiring Journey of LPYD Studios
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31:39Leonardo Ponce and Yshana Docherty, the trailblazing founders of LPYD Studio, share their journey from humble beginnings to becoming a powerhouse in digital marketing. Their story is one of resilience and partnership as they navigated early challenges like tight budgets and client struggles to establish a thriving agency in Cabo. Leonardo's initial…
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Episode 71 – Totally Potted: A Crash Course in Prehistoric Pottery
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1:21:51Calling all sherd nerds and pot-heads! The Two Humans get their hands dirty as they look at the history and significance of prehistoric pottery! Episode 71 – Totally Potted: A Crash Course in Prehistoric Pottery An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http…
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Build Brand Relevance through Authentic Marketing with Maribel Lara of The Sasha Group
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33:24Unlock the secrets to staying relevant in today's fast-paced digital world with marketing expert Maribel Lara, Senior Vice President and Head of Consulting at The Sasha Group. Discover the importance of two-way communication and how listening to consumer feedback can transform your brand's presence. Maribel shares how The Sasha Group keeps its stra…
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Welcome back, friends! I’m excited to share some big news with you. After some time away, I’m back with a new podcast—called Soul Path. It’s all about connecting with your authentic self, aligning with your purpose, and navigating life’s twists and turns with mindfulness and intention. What does that really mean? It means creating a life that YOU a…
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Episode 70 – Dining Out: A Hungry Human’s History of Restaurants
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1:18:27Oh, waiter! The Two Humans reserve a table for two as they discuss the history of dining out and restaurants. Check, please! Episode 70 – Dining Out: A Hungry Human’s History of Restaurants An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http://www.intro2anthro.po…
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Crafting Emotional Depth in Fantasy: Zsofia Judit Baranyai on 'The Last Offering'
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13:27What if you could transform the darkest corners of your mind into a world where imagination knows no bounds? Join us as we embark on a fantastical journey with Zsofia Judit Baranyai, the renowned author of "The Last Offering." Discover the emotional journey of Ultima, a character whose evolution from a resigned, emotionless state to a dynamic heroi…
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Tony Mills: Transforming Art into Healing and Philanthropy
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27:38Renowned artist and New Jersey native Tony Mills shares his inspiring journey of transforming creativity into a tool for healing and philanthropy. Tony recounts how a mural project in Georgia became the catalyst for founding his nonprofit, More 2 Me, which is dedicated to supporting children with special needs and their families. This episode highl…
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Episode 69: Oh, Yes, I Remember It Well (I Think)
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1:16:29The Two Humans try to remember exactly what it was they were going to say about memory. Episode 69: Oh, Yes, I Remember It Well (I Think) An Intro to Anthro with 2 Humans Human Number One, John McCray, and Human Number Two, John Lehr, re-assess what it means to be human. http://www.intro2anthro.podbean.com https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10…
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