The legal ecosystem is transforming but to what, for whom, where, why and how? Join us to learn about the next best practices and how legaltech is impacting your legal business. Learn from the people who are “walking the talk.” Hear what they are doing and what has driven them to do things differently for their clients, their people, their organisations and themselves and, how they measure and learn from success and failure. We’re going to get candid, super practical and yes, we’re going to ...
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Episode 211: Future 50 Series - GenAI and Legal Ops - What’s next?
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48:31In many respects, generative AI has impacted few roles as directly as legal operations. These professionals sit at the epicentre of tech experimentation, deployment, adoption, evaluation and change. As the tech has evolved, so too has their role to right now, being part tech interpreter, teacher, multidisciplinary relationship builder, enterprise-w…
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Episode 210: Future 50 Series – Small Words, Big Consequences: How prompts are redefining legal practice
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25:05Prompt engineering has captured our interest, been at the core of our frustration and continues to find its way into our new way of working in the post ChatGPT era. But like the tech it is so integrally tied to, generative AI, knowing you need to be good at prompting is not the same as being good at it – it requires context, application, refinement…
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Episode 209: Legal GenAI Conversations Series: The Lawyerless Law Firm – Myth or Reality in 2030?
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1:03:25On 7 May 2025, in the fourth podcast in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by three amazing guests to discuss The Lawyerless Law Firm – Myth or Reality in 2030? Miriam Rihani, Head of Transformation and Legal Operations (OGC), PwC Australia Laura Vickers, Foundi…
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Episode 208: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – Will GenAI kill the billable hour…ever?
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1:07:52There’s little more fundamental to every business than revenue. In law firms, for a while now, that’s been measured by the billable hour. In most law firms today, we still wrap up hours billed in the same parcel as expertise, performance, and value. That’s a BIG problem and it’s getting bigger as AI and particularly generative AI is completing task…
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Episode 207: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – Legal leaders in the AI era – Are we there yet?
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1:01:23Every aspect of legal practice is transforming before our eyes with AI as the catalyst and the enabler. It’s a challenging time for law firm leaders - it’s definitely not a role for the faint hearted. On 18 March 2025, in the second podcast in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innov…
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Episode 206: Future 50 Series – The Law Profs GenAI Sandbox – Empowering legal educators in the age of AI
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54:31Generative AI has created a critical role for educators. Everyone is learning something new, and educators know how to make that meaningful and stick. Whether the tech is forcing us to challenge traditional mindsets, understand a new context for our work, experiment with new ways to work, or embrace different ways to collaborate with different peop…
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Episode 205: Legal GenAI Conversations Series – The Lawyer Mindset
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57:09This podcast was recorded on 20 February 2025, as the inaugural session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Conversations Series. In this session, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation discussed The Lawyer Mindset with global superstar former lawyer, psychologist and legal industry consultant Dr. Larry Richard, Founder and Princ…
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Episode 204: Welcome to Lex ExploreAI Series – What you can expect!
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28:09This podcast was recorded on 5 February 2025, as the inaugural session in CLI’s Lex ExploreAI Series. In this session host Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships and Program Director of the LawTech Hub & AI Clinical Placements at Lander & Rogers joined Terri Mottershead, Executive Director of the Centre for Legal Innovation to discuss: The state o…
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Episode 203: Future 50 Series – Legal Innovation and Tech in 2024 – A year in review
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1:10:07We’re back for our sixth year and what a year it has been for legaltech, AI and innovation! If 2023 was the year to figure out what generative AI was all about, then 2024 was most definitely the year for pilots, experimentation, and strategies for data and AI. Well, that was how it went for some, but not everyone… In this, our annual year in review…
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Episode 202: Future 50 Series - Breaking New Ground in Legal Education – Vanderbilt Law School’s AI Lab
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44:57In this session, we spoke with Mark Williams, a Founding Co-Director of the Vanderbilt AI Law Lab (VAILL) and a Professor of the Practice of Law at the AIGP. Mark has come to AI via journalism, law, sometime in the political world and knowledge management. In many respects, his work now draws on that rich professional and personal life experience. …
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Episode 201: Legal GenAI Around the World: Africa + Middle East
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1:03:38This podcast was recorded on 22 July 2024 as the fifth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Africa and the Middle East: Peter Hall, Chief Operating Officer, Cognia Law Leah Molatseli, …
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Episode 200: Future 50 Series – Innovator in Residence – A leap forward in legal AI from the Ontario Bar Association!
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45:47In this session, we spoke with Colin Lachance, the Innovator in Residence at the Ontario Bar Association (OBA) and the Principal of law firm coaching and consulting business, PGYA Consulting. Colin has spent most of his career in the legal industry. He’s worked in publishing, consulting, and legaltech development just to name a few. In all that he …
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Episode 199: Legal GenAI Around the World: Europe + UK
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1:04:11This podcast was recorded on 18 June 2024 as the fourth session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with four amazing panellists from Europe and the UK: Giulio Coraggio, Partner – Location Head of Italian Intellectual Property…
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Episode 198: Legal GenAI Around the World: USA
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1:02:35This podcast was recorded on 29 May 2024 as the third session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from the USA: Wendy Butler Curtis, Chief Innovation Officer and Chair eDiscovery & Information Gov…
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Episode 197: Legal GenAI Around the World: Asia
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1:01:27This podcast was recorded on 15 April 2024 as the second session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from India, Hong Kong and Singapore: Komal Gupta, Chief Innovation Officer, Cyril Amarchand Man…
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Episode 196: Legal GenAI Around the World: Australia + New Zealand
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1:04:07This podcast was recorded on 12 March 2024 as the inaugural session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Australia + New Zealand: Matt Farrington, Senior Legal Counsel, Vice Chancellor’s Offic…
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Episode 195: Future 50 Series – Legal Innovation and Tech in 2023 – A year in review
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1:07:42This session has become an annual event for us and, this was a BIG year to review the world of legaltech, AI and innovation. So much has happened since ChatGPT exploded onto the market in November 2022. Its impact has been pervasive, even in an industry like legal which would not, in the past, have been described as agile. So, what changed in 2023?…
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Episode 194: Future 50 Series – What the future of AI holds for the legal industry
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42:18In this session, we spoke with Beth Patterson, the Founder and Director of legal industry-focused tech consultancy, ESPconnect and an Adjunct Professor (Industry) at UTS Faculty of Law. Beth’s career has the distinctive hallmark of being groundbreaking. The depth and breadth of her experience in tech and legaltech, in tech companies and law firms, …
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Episode 193: Future 50 Series – Onit’s AI Center of Excellence
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29:32In this session, we spoke with Jean Yang, the VP and Co-founder of Onit’s AI Center of Excellence. The Center is a note-worthy offering from a software vendor. Jean’s journey to Onit seems like it was a natural progression. A former practising lawyer from New Zealand, she has spent most of her career so far (there’s lots more still to come) at the …
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Episode 192: Future 50 Series – Legal Leaders, Teams, Innovation and Collaboration
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39:49In this session, we spoke with Michele DeStefano about how we can approach change, manage it and leverage it for the benefit of lawyer and allied legal professional wellbeing, for our clients, and legal businesses. Michele knows a thing or two about this from her many roles as law professor, business founder, educator, consultant, and serial entrep…
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Episode 191: The importance of being human in a legal AI world!
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50:19It’s easy to get all caught up in the shiny new tech. It’s exciting and even a little mesmerizing, but the change it brings, demands and expects has a very real and human face too. In this podcast, Isabel Parker, Legal innovator, author and LawTech UK panel member closed out the Summit with her timely, important and candid reminder of the need to k…
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Episode 190: Legal Generative AI in 2024…
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1:02:26So much has happened in tech/AI and the legal world in a year! Will 2024 see GenAI being more impactful, less impactful, the same? And where, what, how and when will it impact? In this podcast, Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin and CLI Advisory Board Co-Chair gazed into the crystal ball to help you g…
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Episode 189: Legal Education Reinvented: No pens, no paper, no professors?
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1:00:01We don’t have the capabilities we need to deliver legal services/products or solutions in a digital world. So what are legal educators doing about this and how quickly can they individually/collectively bridge the gap? In this podcast, Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships at Lander & Rogers discussed how legal education is changing in the face o…
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Episode 188: Emerging Legal AI Roles – adding, subtracting, coming, going…and everything, everywhere in between!
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58:09Gen AI has reinvented the legal workforce. We’re seeing old roles expand, new roles emerge and some disappear too. So how is the legal industry preparing for this? What are the new talent strategies, capabilities, perspectives, retrospectives and yes, everything in between? In this podcast, Sam Burrett, Legal Optimisation Consulting at MinterElliso…
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Episode 187: Experimentation – is it the next collaborative legal practice?
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1:00:01ChatGPT4 came after ChatGPT1 – getting from 1 to 4 and beyond took time, money, failure, frustration, resilience, agility, collaboration and multidisciplinary teamwork. These factors are all part of experimentation but they’re not typically hallmarks of the legal industry. So, how do we get from here to the new digital legal world? In this podcast,…
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Episode 186: Legal professional responsibility in the digital age – critical, outdated or redundant?
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59:25What is the new and emerging role of regulatory authorities in a GenAI world? Who should be regulated (lawyers and paralegals)? Should the provision of legal services/products/solutions remain a duopoly? Should tech/AI competency be mandated? What does legal professional responsibility mean in contemporary legal practice? In this podcast, Terri Mot…
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Episode 185: Unlocking Justice: The potential and perils of generative AI in improving access to justice
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58:17We’ve heard the stats and see every day the increasing and critical need to improve access to justice. There is much GenAI can do to help but it’s not a perfect solution, or is it? In this podcast, Maya Markovich, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Justice Technology Association and CLI Advisory Board member, analysed and discussed the impact…
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Episode 184: Law Unlimited: Welcome to the re-envisioned legal profession
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1:01:33Will Generative AI destroy law firms? Only if lawyers are too fixed in their ways to see the possibilities that lie beyond who we've always been and what we've always done. In this podcast, globally renowned legal commentator Jordan Furlong, Principal at Law21, unpacked the challenges and opportunities of a GenAI-fuelled and human-centred legal wor…
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Episode 183: Can GenAI live up to its promise… and what is it promising now?
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55:21Generative AI has dominated tech meetings, conversations, debates and demonstrations this year. We’ve been impressed, intimidated, inspired and disillusioned by the tech, so now almost a year since ChatGPT launched, is GenAI REALLY a game-changer? Is it the ultimate catalyst and influencer? Can it/should it sustain its impact on the legal world thr…
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Episode 182: Future 50 Series – Choosing your AI expert – What you need to know right now!
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30:27It’s been almost a year since ChatGPT launched! For many of us, that opened the door to a new world – new concepts, new terms, confusion, frustration, exhilaration – a whole lot of stuff to understand, implement and manage. We needed guidance but the sort that shines a light on where to go and doesn’t require us to build the flashlight first. It ta…
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Episode 181: Future 50 Series – The Lander & Rogers AI Clinical Placement Program
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19:19The title of Marshall Goldsmith’s book (2007) “What Got You Here Won't Get You There,” has become a mantra for change and with good reason – it’s true – we can’t do things differently until we think about and approach them differently. That mindset shift, changing the way we think and do, has never had higher stakes or been more in demand than now,…
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Episode 180: Future 50 Series - Legal work done differently - Airlie
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24:11Generative AI has changed the world of legal work forever! That’s a big statement but, we’re seeing proofs of concept daily in multiple services, products and solutions from all types of legal businesses. Those engaging with the tech are building the bridges from concept to implementation. It requires work and, in some cases, lots of it. It starts …
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Episode 179: Future 50 Series - Legal education for generation AI
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34:24No matter what industry you put under the microscope or where you turn right now, there are gaps in digital literacy. Tech and AI are evolving at an unprecedented pace. Legal has and will come under increased scrutiny to keep up to remain relevant. And what that means is upskilling or reskilling on a scale we have never seen before. The legal world…
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Episode 178: Driving your business forward with Microsoft Copilot
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52:51This podcast was delivered on 25 August 2023 and is the ninth and final session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Lisa Crosbie, Technology Evangelist and Amanda Fajerman, Engagement Manager, both at Barhead discussed Driving your business forward with Microsoft Copilot. Topics covered included: What is Microsoft Copilot? Where will Micr…
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Episode 177: AI and Ethics in Legal Practice - What you need to know now!
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56:43This podcast was delivered on 9 August 2023 and is the eighth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Julian Webb, Professor of Law, Melbourne Law School, University of Melbourne discussed AI and Ethics in Legal Practice – What you need to know now! Topics covered included: A brief background and context of legal AI ‘Old school’ exper…
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Episode 176: Generative AI and Your Firm's Strategy and Business Model
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1:01:05This podcast was delivered on 2 August 2023 and is the seventh session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Joel Barolsky, Principal, Edge International discussed how Generative AI is changing law firm strategy and business models. Topics covered in this session included how current generative AI will impact a law firm’s business strategy …
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Episode 175: ChatGPT Prompt Engineering for Legal - Tips and Traps
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56:54This podcast was delivered on 21 July 2023 and is the sixth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Ab Saraswat, Chief Revenue Officer, Lupl and Founder, Fringe Legal discussed everything you need to know about ChatGPT Prompt Engineering for Legal …. all the tips and traps. Topics covered included: Prompt Engineering Basics Prompt For…
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Episode 174: Generative AI, ChatGPT and IP Rights
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1:01:10This podcast was delivered on 19 July 2023 and is the fifth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Patrick Fair, Principal, Patrick Fair Associates discussed Generative AI, ChatGPT and IP Rights. Topics covered included: Generative AI overview Impact of GenAI on: Design Rights, Circuit Layout rights, Trade Marks, Patents and Copyrigh…
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Episode 173: Managing Partner to Founder - How to scale back and preserve legacy!
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1:01:19In this podcast, the final episode of eight in the CLI’s Women Legal Business Founders and Leaders Series offered through our Legalpreneurs Lab, Women Legalpreneurs Special Interest Group, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director, Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion focused on the journey from Managing Partner to Founder and what it t…
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Episode 172: Unlocking the Power of Data: Exploring Data Governance and AI for Smarter Insights
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54:57This podcast was delivered on 11 July 2023 and is the fourth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Krystal Jackson, eDiscovery Senior Manager, Ashurst Advance discussed data – what you need to know, what you need to do, and how you can get ready for the legal AI revolution. Topics covered included: What data is (and is not) Data gov…
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Episode 171: Do Androids Dream of Social Justice? Introduction to large language models
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52:56This podcast was delivered on 7 July 2023 and is the third session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Stan Chua, Service Delivery Manager, Technology, Lander & Rogers discussed Large Language Models. Topics covered included: Machine Learning, Large Language Model, Generative AI – What’s the difference? Large Language Model: How does it w…
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Episode 170: ChatGPT Plugins – Why? Now? Next?
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55:38This podcast was delivered on 27 June 2023 and is the second session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session, Ab Saraswat, Chief Revenue Officer at Lupl and Founder of Fringe Legal discussed ChatGPT Plugins – Why? Now? Next? Topics covered included: The difference between APIs, Apps and Plugins How ChatGPT Plugins are solving some of the limi…
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Episode 169: How to Use Generative AI and ChatGPT in Legal Practice
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1:14:09This podcast was delivered on 20 June 2023 and launched CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session, Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer and Mitchell Scott, Data and Delivery Manager, both from Gilbert + Tobin, discussed How to Use Generative AI and ChatGPT in Legal Practice. Topics covered included: The changing AI lands…
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Episode 168: When a business idea doesn’t go to plan – What’s next?
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55:29In this podcast, the seventh episode of eight in the CLI’s Women Legal Business Founders and Leaders Series offered through our Legalpreneurs Lab, Women Legalpreneurs Special Interest Group, Bronwyn Eynon-Lewis, Co-Founder, Lacuna Professional Services facilitated a discussion focussed on when a business idea doesn’t go to plan, what’s next, with t…
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Episode 167: Transforming Net Zero Contracting through Emerging Technologies
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41:22In this podcast, the final of five sessions on Digital Contracting for Net Zero, CLI’s Distinguished Fellow, Natalia Crnomarkovic was joined by Bernadette Bulacan Starin to explore how emerging technologies are shaping the future of Climate Contracting and how leading organisations are looking to blockchain and other emerging technologies as key Ne…
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Episode 166: Harnessing Smart Legal Contracting in Pursuit of Net Zero
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27:43In this podcast, the fourth of five sessions on Digital Contracting for Net Zero, CLI’s Distinguished Fellow, Natalia Crnomarkovic was joined by Alishia Ballantine and Peter Moulton to explore the limitations of current CLM systems in enabling Net Zero and how Next Gen contracting (aka Smart Legal Contracts) will uplift climate metrics capture and …
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Episode 165: Aligning Construction Supply Chains with Net Zero
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29:12In this podcast, the third of five sessions on Digital Contracting for Net Zero, CLI’s Distinguished Fellow, Natalia Crnomarkovic was joined by Marko Misko to explore how lawyers are aligning Construction supply chains with NetZero and the growing importance of technology as an enabler in this space. Marko Misko is a leading front-end infrastructur…
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Episode 164: Contracting for Net Zero across FMCG Supply Chains
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34:33In this podcast, the second of five sessions on Digital Contracting for Net Zero, CLI’s Distinguished Fellow, Natalia Crnomarkovic was joined by Jessica Mottau and Tara Fontanilla to showcase how in-house and private practice lawyers are teaming to support NetZero across FMCG Supply Chains, through NetZero aligned contracting and explore the growin…
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Episode 163: Using Contractual Tools for Net Zero and Climate Adjusted Risk Allocation
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37:03In this podcast, the first of five sessions on Digital Contracting for Net Zero, CLI’s Distinguished Fellow, Natalia Crnomarkovic was joined by Phoebe Roberts to explore how legal teams are jumping into action to propel NetZero through Climate adjusted risk allocation and Climate contracting. Phoebe Roberts is a senior legal practitioner in MinterE…
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Episode 162: From Lawyer to NewLaw Careerist – How to crush the transition!
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1:03:17In this podcast, the sixth episode of eight in the CLI’s Women Legal Business Founders and Leaders Series offered through our Legalpreneurs Lab, Women Legalpreneurs Special Interest Group, Melissa Lyon, Executive Director and Experience Designer, Hive Legal facilitated a discussion focusing on the journey from Lawyer to NewLaw Careerist with three …
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