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The Saved for Later Podcast

Brian Michael Kindall

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The Saved for Later Podcast is a Christian podcast for adult Christian beginners. Biblical Christianity is presented by a lifelong atheist who became a Christian scholar later in life. Christianity is discussed in a language understandable to adults who did not grow up in the church. You can also find me on these platforms as well as YouTube, YouTube Music, Rumble, and Spotify.
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Send us a text We’ve made salvation too easy—and that’s not a compliment. We’ve told people they’re saved because they repeated a few words or raised their hands during a worship song. But salvation was never meant to be a spiritual transaction—it’s a total surrender. If your faith never demanded anything of you… are you sure it’s real? In this epi…
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Send us a text What should a real pastor look like? In this episode, I sit down with my own pastor, Jared Verwiel of Tulsa Bible Church, to cut through the spiritual posturing and power games that infect far too many pulpits. We talk real ministry — not performance, not personality cults, and definitely not spiritual manipulation. Just biblical she…
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Send us a text Thinking about going back to church? Or stepping into one for the first time? Slow down — this episode might save you from walking into a spiritual trap. There are a thousand churches that look good on the outside but are spiritually bankrupt on the inside. This episode tackles the uncomfortable truth: not every church that uses the …
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Send us a text Valerie Duran shouldn’t be alive. Her blood pressure was so high, doctors didn’t expect her to survive the stroke — let alone speak again, walk again, or teach teenagers about the gospel. But God had other plans. In this raw and powerful interview, Valerie shares her medical trauma, spiritual journey, and the slow, miraculous road ba…
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Send us a text Forgiveness isn’t optional. It’s not a nice suggestion or a spiritual upgrade for the super-devoted. According to Scripture, it’s the dividing line between those who follow Christ and those who don’t. In this episode, I expose why our refusal to forgive usually isn’t about the offense — it’s about our lack of faith in God’s justice. …
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Send us a text We’ve all heard it — “Christianity would be great if not for all the Christians.” In this episode, I face that accusation head-on… because it’s not entirely wrong. This isn’t just about bad behavior. It’s about biblical ignorance, spiritual laziness, and a culture of easy answers that turns Christians into walking contradictions. If …
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Send us a text Some people lose everything—and somehow still praise God. This episode explores why. In a world addicted to comfort and terrified of pain, many churches quietly teach that “faith” means life gets better. But that’s not biblical. That’s a lie. What happens when suffering comes anyway? What happens when the storm doesn’t pass? In this …
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Send us a text This is the episode I’ve been waiting to share — the story of how a lifelong atheist, proud of his rebellion and certain of his intellect, came to believe that Jesus Christ is exactly who He said He was. I wasn’t looking for God. I was too busy selling lies, chasing ego, and mocking Christians. But God broke through anyway. In this e…
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Send us a text “If God is real, then why…?” You’ve heard it. Maybe you’ve asked it. In this episode, I confront the most common objection to the Christian faith — the existence of evil, pain, and suffering — and I do it without hiding behind Sunday school clichés or blind faith. This one’s personal. I used to use the problem of evil as a battering …
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Send us a text Many of us didn’t grow up in church. We weren’t raised with flannel graphs, memory verses, or altar calls. We found Jesus later — sometimes painfully so — after spending years worshiping ourselves. In this episode, I share the raw beginnings of my faith journey as a former atheist and explain why this podcast exists at all. I also la…
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