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You built a successful surface business—countertops, flooring, tile, or supply—but now it feels like the business owns you. Driven For Growth is the podcast for surface industry leaders ready to install the systems, team, and structure to scale without burning out. If you’re tired of being the bottleneck, this show will help you lead with clarity and take back control.
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Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
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Running a stone shop is HARD. I make it easier. I give resources to help you reduce frustration and increase profits in your stone shop. Visit www.AaronCrowley.com and get the first 3 chapters of my book ”Less Chaos More Cash” for free!
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Let us tell you a mysterious tale, woven into the fabric of time.. Each week on our podcast we will take a look at a unique and fascinating piece of history. As gruesome, mysterious or unbelievable that these tales may sound, one thing is for sure...these events happened, these people existed and these places have made their mark on our historical landscapes.
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A lone voice. A fractured past. A forbidden truth. In the realm of Trexlin, where Focus - the essence of magic- and time is overseen by the mysterious Temporials, one rogue begins to uncover secrets that could unravel the very fabric of the world. Whispers from the Anchor is a psychological fantasy thriller told through recovered voicestone recordings left behind by a disillusioned Free Thinker. As he delves deeper into the lost history of Lassdi—a god who sacrified herself for peace—he unco ...
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TRADEOFFS

Nate Padgett, Chris Rill

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Nate Padgett and Chris Rill go hands-on exploring the world of hardware startups. Each month they interview founders, early team members, and industry leaders to uncover the secrets behind building successful products. From the best practices of product design, to the ins and outs of manufacturing, they leave no stone unturned in their mission to help budding entrepreneurs succeed. Join them on their journey and get the inside scoop on all the exciting and innovative developments in the hard ...
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Israel: The Land of Resilience” invites you on a journey through a country where history and innovation converge at every turn, creating a unique laboratory for human resilience. As your Israeli tour guide, I’ll take you beyond the typical tourist routes (though I know those pretty well too) to discover the authentic stories and unexpected wisdom found across this small but remarkably diverse land. Each episode explores a different region of Israel – from the hills of the Galilee where farme ...
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LOADED DICE ROLLERS Season 3 - Includes Guest Stars: Peter Adkison owner of Gen Co and Founder of Wizards of the West Coast, The Show Offs star McClain Nelson, The CW's Adam Johnson, Pixel Dice creator and Fallout and Skyrim programer, Jean Simonet, Astral Table Top's Jon Irons, Comedian Traci Stumph, Voice Over talent K Beau Foster, Actor David Air, Actress Ginny Loveday and much much more! Season 3 is an all new take where 3 souls from season 1 are sent back to do it again from Pharasma an ...
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Season 3, Episode 9: Craig Deitelzweig is redefining office real estate—one scent, doorman, and house car at a time. In this episode, the CEO of Marx Realty shares how he's leading the hotelization of office buildings—and why most landlords are stuck in the past. From signature scents and concierge-level service to rooftop lounges and Porsche house…
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Ascend to Israel's most strategic and breathtaking region- the Golan Heights, where biblical giants once roamed, modern heroes risked everything, and diverse communities build their lives on literally shifting ground. Experience dramatic contrasts from 200 meters below sea level to snow-capped peaks at 1,200 meters above, all within an hour drive. …
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Imagine if the walls could talk.... The stories they could tell...Well, maybe they can. Maybe..just maybe, the stone walls can record emotions or energies of times long ago. This is the intriguiging idea behind Stone Tape Theory. Join us as we unravel the theory behind this incredible suggestion. Along the way, we will present some fascinating case…
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Season 3, Episode 8: Jonathan Kaufman Iger is turning Sage Realty into the first true commercial real estate brand. In this episode, the CEO of Sage shares how a 100-year-old family business is evolving to meet the demands of modern office users. From tenant experience to hospitality-driven operations, Jonathan explains why most landlords are getti…
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Send us a text Trapped within Anchor 17, Flick and Jori confront echoes not just of the past—but of possible futures. As the Anchor distorts time, Jori faces a haunting vision of his older self… and a terrible offer from the Time Lord Qualis. Meanwhile, a cracked voicestone reveals long-buried memories—one of Lassdi’s sacrifice, and another of Inne…
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Season 3, Episode 7: Janet LePage, CEO of Western Wealth Capital, joins the show to share how she scaled from flipping homes in Phoenix to managing over 30,000 units across the Sunbelt, with $4B in real estate transactions under her belt. In this episode, Janet opens up about the pressure of navigating one of the fastest interest rate hikes in mode…
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If you run a countertop, flooring, tile, remodeling, or supply business and think more leads will solve your growth problem — think again. The truth? You’re not short on opportunity. You’re leaking revenue every single day. In this episode, we’ll show you how to stop chasing cold leads and start closing the warm ones already in your pipeline. You’l…
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Tired of slashing prices just to stay busy? If you run a countertop, flooring, tile, or remodeling business — and you're constantly competing on price — you don’t have a sales problem. You have a positioning problem. In this episode, you’ll learn how to build a competitive advantage that attracts the right clients, allows you to charge premium rate…
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Do you feel like your team just doesn’t get it—and you’re stuck making every decision yourself? Most surface pros think it’s a leadership or people problem. But it’s not. It’s a vision problem—and without real vision, culture falls flat and the business stays stuck. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why vague goals and task lists aren’t vision How to …
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Own a countertop, flooring, tile, or supply business — but still feel like you’re the bottleneck? You’re not alone. Most surface industry owners get stuck in the weeds because they’re missing the systems, structure, and support to truly scale. In this episode, we break down how to shift from overworked operator to strategic leader by: Building your…
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Still stuck working in your countertop, flooring, or tile business—even after hitting 7 figures? You’re not alone. Most surface pros plateau because they’re missing the 7 core systems that create scalable growth. In this episode, I walk you through the Growth Engine™ — a proven 7-system model designed to help you: Get out of daily operations Align …
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Journey into Israel's vast southern wilderness- the Negev Desert, where apparent emptiness reveals extraordinary abundance. Discover how this seemingly barren landscape has been home to thriving civilizations for millennia and continues to serve as a laboratory for solving global challenges today. We explore the remarkable history of the Negev, fro…
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Season 3, Episode 6: Andy Weiner, CEO of RockStep Capital, joins the show to explain why the retail apocalypse was overhyped and how his firm is turning overlooked malls into long-term cash-flow plays. With 50+ shopping centers under management, Andy walks through the real risks, the CMBS fallout, and why Class B markets still offer upside, if you …
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On the 2nd July 1937, Amelia Earhart and her navigator, Fred Noonan, took off from New Guinea on the final leg of their ground breaking round the world flight. They were never seen again... 88 years later, we take a look at the current hypotheses as to what could have happened. After all, an aircraft and 2 people cannot disappear... can they? Thank…
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Season 3, Episode 5: Brian Cohen, CEO of Andover Properties, joins the show for a candid deep dive into how he scaled a self-storage empire and why the best buying opportunities today are in the asset classes no one wanted a decade ago. From distressed storage deals and long lease-ups to launching a credit platform with Angelo Gordon, Brian breaks …
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Journey through 2,500 years of conquest and survival as we explore how Israel faces its most complex multi-front conflict since independence. In this powerful episode, we trace the remarkable pattern from ancient Babylon and Persia through the Bar Kokhba revolt- the massive Jewish rebellion that led Rome to rename the entire region in an attempt to…
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Season 3, Episode 4: Rich Hill, Global Head of Real Estate Strategy at Principal Asset Management, joins the show for a candid deep dive into the state of CRE in 2025, from CMBS and construction lending to the hype around AI data centers. With over $100B in real estate under management, Rich explains why office isn’t dead, where multifamily pricing…
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Send us a text As the Anchor twists into a temporal maze, Flick and Jori are hunted by a creature once thought myth: a Temporal Wraith. Flick manages to seal it—temporarily—but the memories it tried to suppress come flooding back. A ritual fragment reveals a dark truth: the gods didn’t act alone to create Focus. And when a haunting echo of Jori app…
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Rebellion and Retribution...It is the summer of 1685 and the Duke of Monmouth lands on the south coast of England. His mission? Take the English crown by force. James II is an unpopular Catholic King and the people of the West Country rally to Monmouth's cause. They are however untrained and poorly equipped. How will James II react to rebellion on …
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Season 3, Episode 3: Tommy Lee, Global Head of Capital Markets at Trammell Crow Company, joins No Cap podcast for a deep dive into the return of institutional capital—and what it signals for commercial real estate in 2025. Under Lee’s leadership, Trammell Crow has raised and deployed over $22 billion since 2018, fueling large-scale development acro…
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In this episode of TRADEOFFS, we sit down with Justin McAfee, mechanical engineer turned hardware entrepreneur who's fostering a manufacturing renaissance in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Justin shares his unconventional journey from getting burned on a grenade launcher for firefighters at age 23 to developing advanced electric propulsion systems at Wri…
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Season 3, Episode 2: In this episode of No Cap Podcast, co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with John Imbriglia, CEO of Crowd Street, and Anna-Marie Allander Lieb, Investment Director, to discuss the company’s remarkable recovery from the $63M fraud scandal that rocked its platform. John and Anna-Marie dive deep into how they turned a cris…
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In 1850, a storm peels back the sand and uncovers a complete Neolithic village in the Orkney Islands. This is Skara Brae, and the level of technological and cultural sophistication discovered here will astound you. Intricately carved stone objects including beds and furniture, highly decorated stone balls, jewellery, gaming dice - this is an advanc…
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Experience Jerusalem beyond the headlines as we explore this extraordinary city where ancient stones tell eternal stories and diverse communities navigate the complexities of coexistence. We begin with Jerusalem's 3,000-year history, from King David's capital to the building of the First and Second Temples, through centuries of diverse rulers, to t…
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Journey to Tel Aviv, where innovation meets tradition and failure becomes a stepping stone to success, as we explore the city that transformed from sand dunes into a global technology powerhouse. We begin with the remarkable transformation from ancient Jaffa's 4,000-year port to the birth of Tel Aviv in 1909, when 66 families dared to build the fir…
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Season 3, Episode 1: In this episode, co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by Tom Kennedy, Head of Research and Investment Strategy for Real Estate Americas at J.P. Morgan Asset Management. A "recovering central banker," Tom drops some of the boldest predictions we've heard, including a direct callout to the Federal Reserve. Tom reveals w…
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Send us a text Deep within Anchor 17, Flick and Jori uncover a voicestone unlike any other—unmarked, undated, and disturbingly recent. When they activate it, they hear the voice of a forgotten child pleading not to be erased. As the Anchor shifts around them, they receive a haunting message from Inneya herself—a vanished god who claims the truth wa…
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These were dark days indeed...the persecution of mostly women during a period of time in our history made infamous by the Witch Trails. Religious fever and superstition were at their peak, but who were the last unfortunate souls to suffer a fate reserved for witches.. Thank you for listening to our podcast. We really do appreciate your time spent w…
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Send us a text Deep within Time Anchor 17, time bends, echoes shimmer, and memories long buried claw their way to the surface. Flick and Jori stumble upon a cracked voicestone—distorted, flickering, and dangerously unstable. But what it reveals changes everything. They witness a hidden moment between the Time Lord Qualis and his twin, Quill—the fir…
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In this powerful episode, we journey to the Gaza Envelope communities of southern Israel – an area that has faced extraordinary challenges, particularly since October 7th, 2023. We begin by exploring the 4,000-year history of this region, from biblical times through various civilizations, to the modern kibbutz movement that transformed desert into …
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In the land of legend and folklore, in the midst of the Somerset Levels, lies the ruins of Glastonbury Abbey. Once a mighty powerhouse of religious teaching and unbelieveable wealth, Glastonbury Abbey was led by the pious and devoted Abbott Richard Whiting. How then, in the mid 16th century, did Glastonbury Abbey fall into ruin and the aged Abbott …
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In our first full episode, we explore the lush, mystical Galilee in northern Israel. This region has been home to diverse communities for millennia, creating a unique model of coexistence that offers profound lessons in resilience through balance. We begin with a journey through the Galilee's rich history - from its significance in ancient Jewish t…
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Welcome to "Israel: The Land of Resilience"! In this brief introduction, I'll share what to expect on our podcast journey through one of the world's most fascinating countries. As a mental coach and as an Israeli tour guide with years of experience leading travelers through Israel's diverse regions, I've witnessed firsthand how this small country h…
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Imagine giant waves crashing over the top of your house coming at you out of nowhere and advancing faster than you can run. We all hope that we ever encounter such a terrifying scene...but this did happen in the UK only a few hundred years ago. Was it a tsunami though...? Thank you for listening to our podcast. We really do appreciate your time spe…
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Send us a text Anchor 17 continues to awaken. Drawn deeper by the pull of a glowing timestone, Flick and Jori cross a strange threshold of living water and emerge into a hidden chamber pulsing with elemental energy. There, Flick confronts a memory from his youth—one erased from his mind and from time itself. As the past resurfaces, a lost friendshi…
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Send us a text High in the Iceguard Mountains, a rogue Temporial named Flick and his skeptical guide, Jori, uncover a hidden relic of forbidden history—Anchor 17, a time-sealed chamber lost since the Schism of the Gods. Inside, they discover ancient timestones that replay moments from a buried past. One shows Lassdi, the divine mother of Inneya, mo…
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What is the story behind the grave beside a small lane in the depths of the beautiful and mysterious landscape of Dartmoor? Who was Jay and why are they buried here? Join the Mysteries of History as together, we will discover the sad story of Jay and delve into the philosophy of 18th century religious doctrine. Thank you for listening to our podcas…
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Season 2, Episode 13: In this episode of No Cap Podcast by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Don Tepman, the man behind The Strip Mall Guy. Don shares the story of how a single Twitter post launched a thriving commercial real estate brand and led to millions in deals. He reveals how going public transformed everything, why h…
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Season 2, Episode 12: In this episode of The No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the madness of the week’s biggest headlines, including Trump’s unexpected tariff drop, the resurgence of REITs, and Meta’s new data center. They also dive into why Shein and Temu may be facing serious troubles and what all of this means for the …
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Season 2, Episode 11: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by CNBC’s Senior Retail Reporter, Courtney Reagan, to discuss the fast-evolving retail market. From Q4 earnings to tariff shocks and the future of physical retail, Courtney breaks down the latest trends and challenges facing major brands like W…
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Season 2, Episode 10: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Spencer Burton, co-founder of Adventures in CRE and CRE Agents, to explore how technology and innovation are transforming the real estate industry. With years of experience in real estate, Spencer shares how he revolutionized the field by cre…
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Season 2, Episode 9: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Marc DeLuca, CEO of KBS, to explore how the firm has navigated the ever-changing landscape of office real estate. With over 30 years of experience in the industry, Marc has managed billions of dollars in real estate across the Eastern U.S. and…
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Season 2, Episode 8: In this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Albert Lojko, President of Lightbox, a company revolutionizing commercial real estate (CRE) by organizing and digitizing fragmented data. Albert discusses how Lightbox is streamlining transactions, enhancing collaboration, and automating key p…
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Nate and Chris chat with Valentina Ratner, co-founder and CEO of Allspice.io, a collaboration and automation platform that brings software development workflows to hardware engineering. Valentina started her career as a mechanical engineer at Amazon before founding Allspice to transform how electronics teams design PCBs. The three discuss the chall…
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Season 2, Episode 7: On this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by Cris Burnham, CEO of StorageMart, the world’s largest privately owned self-storage company. Cris shares the journey from his father's humble real estate beginnings to growing StorageMart into a multibillion-dollar empire, including the $3.2B a…
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Season 2, Episode 6: In this episode of No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik are joined by Omar Khan, founder of Boardwalk Wealth. Omar brings over $3.7B in capital financing and M&A experience, along with a track record of raising over $50 million in equity. He shares his journey from investment banking to commercial real estate, givin…
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Season 2, Episode 5: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Michael Levy, CEO of Crow Holdings, one of the most influential real estate companies in the world. Michael shares his personal journey and the history of Crow Holdings, diving deep into their innovative approach to real estate, sustainabilit…
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Season 2, Episode 4: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Alex Gornik and Jack Stone sit down with Bob Knakal, Chairman and CEO of BK Real Estate Advisors. Bob, one of New York City’s top brokers, shares his journey and insights on how he became a leader in the real estate market. They dive into the importance of market knowledge, why pros…
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Season 2, Episode 3: C-PACE Financing: The Best-Kept Secret in Real Estate? In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, hosts Alex Gornik and Jack Stone are joined by Robbie Pinkas, Senior Vice President of PACE Loan Group. They dive into the world of C-PACE financing, explaining how it works and how it can fund energy-efficient improvements, making yo…
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Season 2, Episode 2: In this episode of No Cap by CRE Daily, we explore the rising trend of adaptive reuse in real estate—converting old offices into apartments as a potential solution to the housing shortage. Join hosts Alexander Gornik and Jack Stone as they chat with Anoop Dave and Tim Gordon, Co-Founders of Victrix Investment. They share insigh…
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