On Where We Meet, we share stories reflecting the human experience, weaving connections of space, place, land, and time from New Mexico and beyond. Thoughtful interviews and conversations about the richness of the histories, traditions, borders, art, movements of change, and beauty connected to New Mexico. Where We Meet comes from Taos Center for the Arts in Taos, New Mexico.
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Welcome to The Center of Destiny Podcast—a sanctuary for visionary leaders and divinely guided communities to explore our roles as architects of collective destiny. Each episode invites you to journey into the heart of our shared humanity, exploring themes such as indigenous wisdom, ancestral healing, tantra, conscious relationships, divine union, new earth family dynamics, and devotion-led business. Together, we delve into the art of relationship—with ourselves, each other, and the living w ...
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Jimmy Santiago Baca, Anna Martinez and Miguel Santistevan - On "Where We Live" while creating (part 1)
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31:58In March and April of 2025, many spring events happened under the banner of the Big Read - a program of the National Endowment for the Arts, set to inspire meaningful conversations, celebrate local creativity, elevate a wide variety of voices and perspectives, and build stronger connections. Organizations around Taos took part in the programming, f…
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Ep 2 | Who’s Really Driving Your Destiny? Rewriting Spells & Parts Work (IFS) with Maurice Harvey Hall
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1:03:45In this episode of The Center of Destiny podcast, host Tara Tao welcomes her inaugural guest, Maurice Harvey Hall, for a deep and illuminating conversation on self-awareness, shadow integration, and what it means to live as an embodied magician in this reality. Together, Tara and Mo explore the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model and how understand…
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Robert Quijano - On Restoring Musical Autonomy (part 2)
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30:52Alice Morillon's guest is Robert Quijano, who was one of the Community Arts Fellows over the past 8 months with his project “JUST PLAY”. Robert is a musician, song writer and educator in Taos. In this conversation, Robert shares insights on his relationship to music. He touches on traditions, innovation and education, and how one can relate and con…
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Robert Quijano - On Restoring Musical Autonomy (part 1)
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35:44Alice Morillon's guest is Robert Quijano, who was one of the Community Arts Fellows over the past 8 months with his project “JUST PLAY”. Robert is a musician, song writer and educator in Taos. In this conversation, Robert shares insights on his relationship to music, and as he puts it, the world of sounds that surrounds us. He touches on traditions…
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Futuros Ancestral - On Chimayo Weaving and Art Forms within their Cultural Context
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56:29Emily Trujillo andLayne Jackson Hubbard led FUTUROS ANCESTRAL as part of the TCA Community Arts Fellowship in the past 8 months. It included conducting online workshops, recording videos of weaving patterns and creating cohorts of weavers across Northern New Mexico. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, Emily and Layne reflect on the work they …
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Ep 1 | Transform Your Relationship with Time & Embrace Your True Power
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37:28In this episode of The Center of Destiny Podcast, Tara Tao explores one of our most profound relationships—the one we have with time. Time is not just a resource but a teacher, an altar, and a mirror reflecting the depth of our human experience. How we engage with it shapes the rhythm of our lives, our legacy, and our soul’s evolution. Through a co…
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UNBOUND - On Creating a Performance Ritual in Connection with Genízaro communities' experiences (part 2)
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26:02UNBOUND is a performance ritual and community-powered project that honors the Genízaro people and uplifts their legacies. Genízaros were Native people of many tribes, often women and children, who were captured and forced into slave labor during the Spanish colonization of present-day New Mexico. Our guests today are the director Sarah Hogland-Guru…
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Welcome to The Center of Destiny with Tara Tao
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1:01Join your host, Tara Tao, as we journey through the rich inner and outer landscapes of our human existence—where our deeper attunement to subtle energies reshapes reality, truth awakens in the soma, and each episode serves as a portal for inner alchemy, reflection, and transformation. If this podcast resonates and brings value to your life, here’s …
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UNBOUND - On the dancers' connection to Genizaro communities and heritage (part 1)
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32:12UNBOUND is a performance ritual and community-powered project that honors the Genízaro people and uplifts their legacies. Genízaros were Native people of many tribes, often women and children, who were captured and forced into slave labor during the Spanish colonization of present-day New Mexico. Our guests today are the director Sarah Hogland-Guru…
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Joseph Ascensión López - On his Artistic, Spiritual and Cultural Practice as a Santero
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32:56Santero Joseph Ascensión López is the Artist in Residence for the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, López reflects on the cultural and spiritual role of Santos in Northern New Mexico and in his own art practice. He shares the importance of our region's traditions and how his artist in residence ro…
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Lone Piñon - On their June Events in Taos
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21:22The four members of Lone Piñon, Jordan Wax, Santiago Romero, Tanya Nuñez and Karina Wilson share their work in uncovering, learning and performing traditional Northern New Mexico music. In this conversation with Anna Forster-Smith, they talk about two free events that will take place in Taos on June 2nd, 2024.…
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JR Logan - On Community Stewardship of National Forest
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46:28In 2019, the Cerro Negro Forest Council was established to remove excess heavy fuels on National Forest land, while strengthening the connection with local communities and the stewardship of the land. In this live conversation with Alice Morillon, JR Logan reflects on the uniqueness of the program - not such what it did, but how, and who. He shares…
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Yvonne Montoya - On New Mexico Querencia through her latest work: Stories From Home
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33:22Our guest today is Yvonne Montoya. Montoya is a New Mexican choreographer whose current work, Stories from Home, is grounded in her identity and her family’s stories. With her company, Safos, they presented workshops at the Wildflower Playhouse and will present their dance performance on TCA’s stage, on Sunday, April 21st, 2024. Stories From Home p…
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Estelle Laure- On SOMOS and writing in the youth community
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17:50Estelle Laure is the author of ten published and/or forthcoming picture books and young adult novels, including acclaimed novel This Raging Light and Disney's City of Villains trilogy. Laure was raised in Taos where she still lives and works today. She is an english language arts teacher at Taos Academy and is the young writers program curator at S…
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Miriam Sagan - On creating, editing and educating on the written word
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28:54Our guest today is writer Miriam Sagan. Sagan has written over 30 books of poetry, novels and essays. She has been a writer in residence in many places around the world. Since 1984, Sagan lives in Santa Fe, where she created and taught the creative writing program at the Santa Fe Community College. Her latest work, Commune of the Golden Sun, came o…
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Ray Archuleta - On Regenerative Agriculture in Northern New Mexico
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47:44Ray Archuleta is a soil scientist and farmer, who lives in Seymour, MO and grew up in Espanola, NM. For 30 years, Archuleta worked for the Natural Resources Conservation Service before retiring in 2017. He then focused on teaching Biomimicry strategies and Agroecology principles for improving soil function on a national scale. In this conversation …
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Carlos Hernandez - On his creative process, from photographs to paintings
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18:06Carlos Hernandez is a multimedia artist that has worked out of Taos since 2019. He holds an MFA in Video and Performance Art, and has pursued many fields of art including, sculpture, sound, film, painting and drawing. His exhibition, Eros in the Ether: Figurative Architecture, will be shown at the Encore Gallery March 1st - April 14th 2024. It show…
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Francisco El Comanche Gonzales - On the history and current practices of Comanches in Taos
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32:12Francisco El Comanche Gonzales is a community activist and educator whose practices center on the heritage of the Comanches. With his community, he leads dancing, singing and traditional customs. Los Comanches de la Serna are located in Ranchos de Taos. This radio program is supported by the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area.…
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Sydney Cline- On the Youth Community in Taos
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22:38Sydney Cline grew up in Taos and her experience informed her desire to start Common Grounds. Common Grounds is a safe space for youth in Taos, whether they need to take a shower, need someone to talk to, or if they just want a space to hangout in. Cline, along with other youth in the Taos community began developing the concept in 2017. In our conve…
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Cipriano Vigil - On Folklore through Music (2)
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14:14Cipriano Vigil is a renowned Northern New Mexico musician, whose work has been acknowledged in many ways, including being recognized as a Living Treasure in New Mexico for his work with folk art. This conversation is edited in two segment - this the second one. In this segment, he performs live music and shares the tale of La Llorona. This radio pr…
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Cipriano Vigil - On Folklore through Music (1)
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33:44Cipriano Vigil is a renowned Northern New Mexico musician, whose work has been acknowledged in many ways, including being recognized as a Living Treasure in New Mexico for his work with folk art. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, he looks back on his life’s work and its fascinating, diverse aspects, through a lens focused on the music itsel…
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Lara Manzanares is a bilingual musician and weaver, deeply grounded in New Mexico. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, Manzanares reflects on community, art, and the land of rounded corners, as she comes to call New Mexico. This radio program is supported by the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area.…
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Lone Piñon - On Northern New Mexico Folk Music (2)
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21:18The four members of Lone Piñon, Jordan Wax, Santiago Romero, Tanya Nuñez and Karina Wilson share their work in uncovering, learning and performing traditional Northern New Mexico music. They also perform two live songs and give context to the « how » and « why » of the music they play. This radio program is supported by the Northern Rio Grande Nati…
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Lone Piñon - On Northern New Mexico Folk Music (1)
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30:27The four members of Lone Piñon, Jordan Wax, Santiago Romero, Tanya Nuñez and Karina Wilson share their work in uncovering, learning and performing traditional Northern New Mexico music. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, they reflect on the place of this music in our communities and their own relationship to this unique cultural element. Thi…
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David Fernandez de Taos is deeply grounded in Northern New Mexico. He is an active member of Taos’ life, in various aspects, with, to only name a few, his participation on the board of the Taos Historic Museums and the board of the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, he focuses on the work of the No…
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Miguel Santistevan is a teacher, farmer and researcher. In this live conversation with Alice Morillon, he reflects on his own path to farming and the central role of maize (corn) in the Americas, at once cultural and for subsistence. Santistevan earned a Master degree in Ecology from UC Davis and has led, taught and managed many projects and groups…
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Corilia Ortega - On Community Organizing in Northern New Mexico
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26:36Corilia Ortega, a funding member of the Talpa Community Market and a core member of the 100% Community Initiative in Taos County, shares her perspective and insights on community organizing. In this conversation with Alice Morillon, she reflects on her role in connecting her community members to one another and to opportunities. This show is suppor…
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JuanIsidro Concha and Doc The High Hawk - On art as a voice for self and community
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42:54In this live conversation, Doc the High Hawk and JuanIsidro Concha talk about their relationship to art. They touch on the Leaf Festival that they performed at in October 2023, and talk of the community work they are leading. Both Doc the High Hawk & Tha Poet have been performing their respective genres since their youth. Doc has been a part of the…
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Aleya Hoerlein - On her show, The Realm of Possibilities
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18:45Aleya Hoerlein is a painter based in Taos, New Mexico. She was raised in Fairfield, Iowa by a creative family in a spiritual community that practiced transcendence. In college at The School of Visual Arts in New York City, she painted both figure and landscape but her attention kept going to the shadows behind the figure or the sky beyond the lands…
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Aspen Mirabal - On Birth Work in Northern New Mexico
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29:08Aspen Mirabal is a full spectrum doula from Taos Pueblo. In this live conversation, Mirabal talks of the importance of education around birth and motherhood. She also addresses Northern New Mexico communities' specificities and the conversation that needs to be had to respect individuals' choices around their parenting choices. This show is support…
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Enriqueta Vasquez - On Chicano Activism (2)
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32:32Enriqueta Vasquez is a Chicana activist, journalist, writer, and artist. She began her work in Denver, CO, and later re-located to San Cristobal, NM. Vasquez was a close collaborator and friend of political leader Corky Gonzales and civil rights activist Craig Vincent. She was involved in the creation of the Chicano school Escuela Tlateloco in Denv…
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Enriqueta Vasquez - On Chicano activism (1)
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28:55Enriqueta Vasquez is a Chicana activist, journalist, writer, and artist. She began her work in Denver, CO, and later re-located to San Cristobal, NM. Vasquez was a close collaborator and friend of political leader Corky Gonzales and civil rights activist Craig Vincent. She was involved in the creation of the Chicano school Escuela Tlateloco in Denv…
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Roberto Lavadie & Ignacio Peralta - On Santos
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29:38Roberto Lavadie and Ignacio Peralta are woodworkers in Taos, NM. They both have studied the history and meaning of Santos. In this live interview with David Silva, recorded in April 2023, they discuss the importance of the religious art form. This show is supported by the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area.…
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Juanita Lavadie - On the heritage of Comancheros in Northern New Mexico.
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33:56Juanita Lavadie is an educator, artist, and historian. Lavadie’s work spans time and space, with a focus on life in Northern New Mexico. Her work incorporates cultural and creative understandings of the traditional Hispano and Indigenous cultures. Lavadie's work is one of imagination and education, illuminating the history of this land. This show i…
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Estevan Rael-Gálvez - On Native Bound Unbound, Archive of Indigenous Slavery (2)
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31:14Native Bound Unbound, Archive of Indigenous Slavery is a research project with the goal of creating a centralized digital repository centered on the lives of the enslaved Indigenous people across the Americas. Estevan Rael-Gálvez is a Doctor in American Cultures, has worked as Senior Vice President of Historic Sites at the National Trust for Histor…
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Estevan Rael-Gálvez - On Native Bound Unbound, Archive of Indigenous Slavery (1)
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29:58Native Bound Unbound, Archive of Indigenous Slavery is a research project with the goal of creating a centralized digital repository centered on the lives of the enslaved Indigenous people across the Americas. Estevan Rael-Gálvez is a Doctor in American Cultures, has worked as Senior Vice President of Historic Sites at the National Trust for Histor…
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Acequias: The Legacy Lives On Post Film Discussion
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31:54After the screening of Acequias: The Legacy Lives On, Aracely "Arcie" Chapa (film director), Vicente Fernandez, Miguel Santistevan, and Sylvia Rodriguez, discuss the importance of acequias to water and land use and the preservation of Northern New Mexican culture. This radio program is supported by the Northern Rio Grande National Heritage Area.…
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Part II: Dr. Hope Kitts and David Fernandez on the counter-educational methods created by La Academia de la Nueva Raza and Paulo Freire
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23:19Founded in Northern New Mexico in 1969, La Academia de la Nueva Raza (The Academy of the New Humanity) grew out of conversations between various scholars, community members and activists. La Academia developed its own educational model based on the concept that learning is derived from life and historical experiences - from El Oro del Barrio - and …
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Dr. Hope Kitts and David Fernandez on the counter-educational methods created by La Academia de la Nueva Raza and Paulo Freire
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28:38Founded in Northern New Mexico in 1969, La Academia de la Nueva Raza (The Academy of the New Humanity) grew out of conversations between various scholars, community members and activists. La Academia developed its own educational model based on the concept that learning is derived from life and historical experiences - from El Oro del Barrio - and …
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AJ from Po.10.Cee on life, art, and hip-hop
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31:42AJ, “LifeTracks”, is a founding member of Po.10.Cee, a Native American hip hop group based here in Taos. We hear about how he came to love hip-hop, his relationship to art, and hope.
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Dante Biss-Grayson - On how fashion design meets activism.
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26:04Dante Biss-Grayson is a Native American Veteran from the Osage Nation, clan Eagle. He is an artist, poet and fashion designer. After learning about the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women epidemic , Biss-Grayson sought to inspire others, give them strength, pride, hope, empowerment, and resilience through his work on his fashion house, Sky-Eagle …
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Daniel Barela & David Fernandez on Taos Historic Museums and The Old Taos Trade Fair.
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26:34Daniel Barela is the president of the Taos Historic Museums and a third generation Spanish Colonial woodcarver. David Fernandez de Taos is on the board of the Taos Historic Museums. He is a writer and speaker involved in Taos' spiritual and artistic life. The two discuss what it’s like to oversee two historic properties in Taos and the upcoming Old…
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Tamra Carraher - On poetry, creation and publication
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22:44Tamra Carraher is a writer, editor and artist. In 2014, she started an independent press, Alexandria Quarterly Press, which would publish collections of written and visual art. In recent years, the format shifted to the publication of books, supporting specific artists’ projects, including collections of poems or short stories. Carraher’s own poetr…
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Tom Frouge - On working in the music industry and ¡Globalquerque!
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12:20Tom Frouge is the founder and director of ¡Globalquerque!, “New Mexico's Annual Celebration of World Music & Culture”. ¡Globalquerque! takes place each September and includes educational workshops, a global dance party, an International Cinema Series with free film screenings, panels, food demos, and performances by local and international musician…
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Ray Sandoval - On Zozobra, the gloom figure of Santa Fe.
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24:16Ray Sandoval, the Zozobra Event Chairman, tells us about the origin of Zozobra. Each summer, the gloom marionnette is carefully crafted, at once physically as a structure of wood, wire and paper, and metaphysically, by the gathering of people who contribute their gloom before they burn it to restore hope. Sandoval reflects, in this conversation, on…
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Olivia Romo - On storytelling, the land, and the Manito experience.
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27:15An American poet, spoken word artist, subsistence farmer, and water rights activist from Taos, New Mexico, Olivia Romo addresses the deep and rich history of Northern New Mexico.
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Dr. Ivan Deutsch - On physics, the second quantum revolution, and the establishment of New Mexico as a quantum state.
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28:05Dr. Ivan Deutsch’s background is in atomic physics and optical physics and he has been working at the University of New Mexico for over 25 years within the Physics and Astronomy department. Currently the director of the Center for Quantum Information and Control (CQuIC), which is funded by the National Science Foundation, Deutsch is responsible for…
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Julia Reinhard Lupton - On exploring connections between the works of William Shakespeare, life and society.
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26:38Julia Reinhard Lupton teaches English at the University of California, Irvine, where she co-directs the New Swan Shakespeare Center and serves as Interim Director of the UC Humanities Research Institute. In this conversation with Colette LaBouff, Lupton shares how her academic and community work explores connections between William Shakespeare and …
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Sharon Erickson Nepstad - On social activism and progressive movements arising from within the Catholic Church.
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31:42Dr. Sharon Erickson Nepstad is a Distinguished Professor of Sociology at the University of New Mexico. Her research spans the globe focusing on social movements, non-violent movements, and the role of religion, specifically, Catholicism, in social movements. In this conversation we hear about solidarity organizations founded by missionaries in Cent…
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Tania Hernández Velasco, Victor Sicard, and Ryan Brown - On the one-act opéra-comique, Gretry’s Silvain, an Opera Lafayette production
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31:44Written in 1770 by André Grétry, Silvain, is restaged in the 19th century American Southwest through Opera Lafayette’s interpretation. Written in 1770 by André Grétry, Silvain addresses land right issues between peasants and landowners back in 18th century France. Opera Lafayette’s current production sets the plot in San Luis Valley, CO and the con…
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