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The Parable Podcast is a place for conversation and stories that illustrate God's presence in our everyday life. A Parable is simple story used to illustrate a lesson. We see Jesus in the Bible sharing these with others so well. And the truth is, we all have stories big or small. Sometimes they are really funny, messy or difficult …. whatever it is you can look back a specific moment or a season in your life and say without a doubt God taught me "this." Can't wait for you to listen in.
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Together We Rise Podcast

Cheryl Nembhard and Danielle Zapchenk

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The Together We Rise podcast is a place where every Woman has a seat at the table. This is a space where we learn from front-line leaders, communicators, and changemakers as well as up-and-coming leaders from the next generation as we exchange ideas, tell our stories, and champion one another forward. Join us as we talk to women in various fields who share their journeys with us, the obstacles they've faced, how they've overcome, and what they're learning. Pull up a chair and join us on the ...
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Empowered To Lead

Jeannette Cochran

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Empowered to Lead is the go-to podcast for Christian women who are ready to rise into courageous, Spirit-led leadership in the Church and the world. Hosted by Jeannette Cochran, pastor, leadership coach, and champion for women in ministry, this show speaks to women who are leading (or longing to lead) in churches, nonprofits, and faith-based spaces where women leaders have historically been excluded or sidelined. With over 20 years of experience in executive church leadership and a heart for ...
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever skipped a couple of steps to get to the result just because you wanted to get something done? Meet Tracy Zabel, who reminds us through her own story of the impact of finding grace and mercy. Tracy is passionate about inspiring and teaching women that life is worth fighting for, even when it gets messy. …
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Have you ever caught yourself thinking, “I’m not ready yet”? Like you need one more degree, another course, or someone else’s approval before you can fully step into your calling? If so, this episode is for you. In today’s conversation, I get real about the hidden ways brilliant women of faith play small, whether it’s hiding behind endless preparat…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever felt like you are fighting with God, but you don’t want him to let go as well? Meet personal scholar and professor Angie Jacobs shares about learning how to hold on when you need to let go. **Just as a trigger warning, Angie talks about suicide specifics (timestamps: from 9:50 - 10:08) . This is an amaz…
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In this episode, Jeannette gets personal about one of the most overlooked but essential leadership practices: silence and solitude. Drawing from her own journey of burnout in the early years of ministry, while also raising kids and carrying the weight of leadership, she shares how contemplative spiritual practices became a lifeline, not just for su…
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What does sexism in the church actually look like today—and what can we do about it? In this powerful and eye-opening conversation, I sit down with Dr. Heather Matthews, a pastor, church planter, educator, and author of Confronting Sexism in the Church: How We Got Here and What We Can Do About It. With over 20 years of ministry experience and a pas…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever felt contained without the freedom to grow? Meet author, speaker, writing coach and artist Sylvia Thomson. She wrote her own parable story for you today and walks us through what it was like to grow up in a legalistic church. We get to explore her journey to find freedom and creativity. Sylvia shares he…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Simplicity comes in many different shapes and it is a useful practice for drawing closer to God. Today I would love to share one of my recent messages from our home church from a series called Your Sacred Path. Please enjoy this message wherever it may find you today. If you prefer to watch it, click here. Sermon Not…
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We often think of courage as standing on a stage or speaking truth to power but there’s so much more to courageous leadership. In this episode, Jeannette unpacks the three types of courage every Christian woman leader needs; public, relational, and private, and why the least celebrated kind might be the most essential of all. You’ll discover: Why p…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text What is the desire of your heart that you have yet to say out loud? Meet Creator and Founder of Every Little Seed Magazine and Creative Coach Courtney Kendall. She shares about how the power of words had an impact on how she saw herself. Courtney Kendall started the magazine as a way to help herself and others slow d…
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What if the story you’ve lived—the ordinary, the messy, and everything in between—was the very thing God wants to use to impact others? In this inspiring episode, Jeannette sits down with Danielle Zapchenk, host of The Parable Podcast, to explore how storytelling connects us, grows our empathy, and becomes a powerful leadership tool. Danielle share…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Has your habit of thinking robbed you of joy and your confidence? Meet strategic coach, business owner, and Author Amy Kemp. She shares about how she has recognized the patterns of her mind and how to combat them. Amy helps leaders and business professionals understand how deeply “thought habits” impact every part of…
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Welcome to a bold new chapter. In this kickoff episode of Empowered to Lead (formerly The Empowered Christian Woman), Jeannette shares the powerful story behind the podcast rebrand—and the deeper vision it reflects. This episode isn’t just about a name change. It’s about a movement of Spirit-empowered women rising to lead with clarity, courage, and…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text One minute you're walking along through life, and then suddenly something as small as a little bit of water changes your life. Welcome to the 200th episode of The Parable Podcast! I find myself at an unexpected place, like most of us do. But I am grateful you are listening in today, and appreciate you being a part of…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text What’s the big deal if you love people who already love you? That’s the question Jesus posed to those who gathered to listen to him in Luke chapter six. Today, I would love to share one of my recent messages from our home church, from a series called Questions Jesus Asked. Next week we are back with my 200th episode,…
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So many women, especially women of faith, have been taught to downplay or distrust their desires. We’ve been praised for sacrifice and conditioned to believe that wanting something for ourselves is selfish, prideful, or even unspiritual. But what if your desires aren’t distractions… what if they’re divine invitations? In this episode, Jeannette cha…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Born in France to a Canadian father and an American mother, Michèle is a consultant, writer, and speaker motivated by a deep passion for Third Culture Kids (TCK). After teaching for twenty years at Black Forest Academy (Germany), she launched her own ministry, equipping TCKs for flourishing, while offering those who …
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What if Jesus' way isn’t just different—but completely opposite from how we’ve learned to lead, respond, and engage with our polarized world? In this powerful and thought-provoking episode, Jeannette Cochran sits down with Tammy Melchien, a seasoned teaching pastor and upcoming author of Choosing the Opposite, to explore what it means to truly foll…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever wondered, is this the end of my story? Please meet Ashley Forsberg as she shares about her parable journey of walking through rejection and walking in confidence. Ashley is a passionate communicator, weaving faith, storytelling, and scripture into theologically rich messages of healing and hope. A pasto…
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Are you constantly busy but still feeling behind? Overwhelmed by the weight of your responsibilities and wondering if it’s even possible to find balance? You’re not alone. In this powerful episode, we’re flipping the script on time management. Jeannette shares a vulnerable story from her own leadership journey, exposing the lie of time scarcity and…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text How have values been infused in you that continue to guide you throughout your life? Today I would love to share one of my recent messages from our home church - a series called, Home is What You Make It, as I shared about values. Please enjoy this message wherever it may find you today. Watch the Live Service Here, …
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Have you ever felt a nudge to speak up, step out, or pursue something bigger only to be stopped cold by a voice in your head whispering, “Who do you think you are?” In this powerful episode, we’re calling that voice out for what it is: your inner critic. It’s not God. It’s not wisdom. And it’s definitely not the truth. If you’ve ever wrestled with …
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Each week we normally hear stories from different people, just really sharing what God has taught them over the course of their life through their own story. And we're going to get back to regularly scheduled programming in just a couple of weeks, but I don't want to leave you empty-handed. We are excited to get to t…
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Started the year with big dreams… but now your goals are gathering dust? You’re not alone and you’re not broken. In this episode, we’re unpacking the 5 reasons most people stall out on their goals (and spoiler: it’s not because you lack discipline or motivation). Whether you feel stuck, stretched too thin, or unsure where to focus, this episode wil…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text We are at the start of the summer season and we are taking three weeks off from our regularly scheduled episodes. However, you won't be left empty-handed. I wanted to give you a little bit encouragement over the next few weeks with just some thoughts as you walk into summer. Sometimes when seasons change we kind of l…
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Are you constantly saying things like “I’m just checking in…” or “Sorry, but…” without even thinking about it? These subtle phrases—called speech minimizers—can quietly sabotage your authority and impact. In this episode, we explore the three most common habits that undermine women’s voices: hedging, over-apologizing, and qualifying. You’ll learn w…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Are you in a posture of striving or surrender right now? Please meet Women’s Leadership Coach Jeannette Cochran as she shares her parable journey of what God taught her through breast cancer. Jeannette has been a leader in ministry for over 30 years, including nearly two decades as an Executive Pastor of a thriving m…
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Can you be a Christian and a feminist? For some, the answer is a bold yes. For others, it feels like a contradiction. In this episode, we unpack the history, theology, and misconceptions that surround the word feminism—especially in Christian spaces. From Jesus' radical treatment of women to the faith-fueled activism of early feminists like Sojourn…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Do you wonder whether you are an introvert? Please meet my guest, professional speaker and massage therapist Sabrina Schottenhammel. She shares about her tendency to hide and her journey to overcome that mindset. The conversation delves into the significance of self-care practices, the role of faith in personal growt…
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Welcome to Together We Rise Podcast! This is a place where every woman has a seat at the table, and where we can affirm, equip and amplify women's voices globally. This week, we're excited to speak with special guest Dr. Sarita Lyons! Dr. Sarita Lyons is a wife, mother, speaker, bible teacher, and psychotherapist. She is the Director of Discipleshi…
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What if everything you’ve believed about failure is wrong? In this episode, Jeannette is busting open four common myths about failure that quietly sabotage our growth, confidence, and calling. If you’ve ever felt paralyzed by the fear of messing up, held back your ideas, or waited for perfect conditions to act, this conversation is for you. You’ll …
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever had a hard time comprehending the place of life you are in? Please meet Adult Ministry Leader Sharie Behnke as she shares about her parable journey of finding God while going through a challenging season. Sherri reflects on her childhood in Oklahoma, how her faith has evolved through life's challenges a…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Our monthly theme episodes give us a chance to focus on a theme and then extend that as an opportunity to see how that can play out in our life and all the relationships that surround us. It is important for me that we dive into our story often to not only see where God has brought us but also continue learning and g…
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Have you ever wondered if the way you’ve been taught about Christian marriage really lines up with God's heart? In today's episode, you’re invited into a conversation about something that still causes so much confusion — mutuality in marriage. You’ll hear a journey that might feel familiar — from believing a husband had to be the "spiritual leader"…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever experienced your worth as transactional? Please meet Executive Health coach Donna Thomas with over 30 years in the fitness industry as she shares about her parable journey embodying mental, physical, and spiritual health. In this episode, we discuss Donna's journey through her 60s, the challenges and jo…
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Welcome to Together We Rise Podcast! This is a place where every woman has a seat at the table, and where we can affirm, equip and amplify women's voices globally. This week, we're excited to speak with special guest Jeannette Cochran! Jeannette has been a leader in ministry for over 30 years, including nearly two decades as an Executive Pastor of …
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If you’ve ever felt like the version of womanhood taught in your church doesn’t quite reflect the freedom and purpose you sense God put inside you… you’re not alone. In this episode, we’re diving deep into egalitarian theology: what it is, what it’s not, and why it offers a more faithful and freeing interpretation of Scripture than the limiting tea…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever defined yourself how much you accomplish on your to-do list? Yes, I so resonate with this. Please meet Integrative Nutrition Health Coach Danni Smith Bullied as she shares her parable journey of understanding her worth. We discuss her journey of overcoming postpartum depression and the metaphor of carry…
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In this episode, Jeannette Cochran takes a bold and thoughtful look at complementarian theology—the belief that men are divinely appointed to lead while women are called to follow. Whether this term is brand new to you or something you've wrestled with for years, this conversation is for every woman who has felt the quiet pressure to stay small, ho…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever felt like you were the first to break the cycle? This is our final collaboration with The Baton Pass as we celebrate their Spring Event season called Illuminate when Light Reveals. If you haven’t heard about the Baton Pass before, they believe when stories are shared chains will break and divine connect…
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In this episode, Jeannette Cochran sits down with culture coach and speaker Nikki Lerner for a rich conversation about multicultural leadership and why it matters more than ever. They talk about what it takes to lead well in diverse spaces—like understanding cultural differences, building inclusive environments, and developing real cultural compete…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever felt like you lost your direction? We are collaborating with The Baton Pass as they kick off their Spring Event season called Illuminate: When Light Reveals. I happen to be one of their advisors and I truly love this team and what this organization is all about. If you haven’t heard about the Baton Pass…
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Welcome to Together We Rise Podcast! This is a place where every woman has a seat at the table, and where we can affirm, equip and amplify women's voices globally. This week, we're excited to speak with special guest Cheryl Nembhard! Cheryl Nembhard is a dynamic Speaker, Podcast/TV Host, and Justice Advocate. Her dedication to Community Service inc…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever felt like you couldn’t bring your pain to God? For the next three weeks we are collaborating again with The Baton Pass as they head into their Spring Event season called Illuminate when light reveals. If you haven’t heard about the Baton pass before they exist to empower women to overcome through events…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever had an injury but you still pushed through the pain? Please Cheryl Nembhard,if that name sounds familiar Cheryl is my my better half, on Together We Rise. Cheryl is a dynamic Speaker, Podcast/TV Host and Justice Advocate. Her dedication to Community Service includes working with at-risk youth, former ga…
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In this episode, Jeannette dives into a critical but often overlooked aspect of leadership—managing anxiety. Leadership and anxiety go hand in hand, and the real question isn’t whether you’ll experience anxiety, but how you’ll handle it. Drawing from personal experience and expert insights, she explores why anxiety is a natural part of leadership, …
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you wondered, is God really good and then had the courage to say that outloud? Please meet Careese Mukulu as she shares honestly about how she viewed God at one point in her life. In this conversation, CaReese discusses her journey of navigating hardship, faith, and personal growth. She reflects on the universal…
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Welcome to Together We Rise Podcast! This is a place where every woman has a seat at the table, and where we can affirm, equip and amplify women's voices globally. This week, we're excited to speak with special guest Aubrey Sampson. Aubrey (M.A. Evangelism and Leadership) co-planted and serves as teaching pastor at Renewal Church, a multiethnic con…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Have you ever struggled to find the words to describe your purpose? Please meet my guest, Danita Cummins. She is a career and business coach with nearly 30 years in the Department of Defense, where she led teams in Special Operations and advanced technology. In her book, Promise Over Purpose, she encourages readers t…
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Send The Parable Podcast a Text Every month The Parable Podcast focuses on a new theme. This provides a focus and an opportunity to be mindful of not only ourselves but what that looks like for our friends and our family. We must dive into our story often and not only see where God has brought us but also continue learning and growing in empathy. W…
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Welcome to Together We Rise Podcast! This is a place where every woman has a seat at the table, and where we can affirm, equip and amplify women's voices globally. This week, we're excited to speak with special guest Nicole Salmon! Nicole O. Salmon is an author, speaker, and minister. Before launching her coaching firm, Nicole worked with organizat…
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