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Welcome to the Pair Program from hatchpad, the podcast that gives you a front-row seat to candid conversations with tech leaders from the startup world. Join host Tim Winkler alongside co-host Mike Gruen as they bring together two guests to dissect topics at the intersection of technology, startups, and career growth. Tim Winkler is a serial Entrepreneur and is the CEO of hatch I.T. a Software Recruiting Company focusing on newly emerging Startup companies. Mike Gruen is a Technologist & Eng ...
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Tim Croll and Steve Gohl

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A new community where real stories matter. We are looking to encourage people to know, share, and live their best narrative. These stories shape our journey and inspire us to live out our best stories. Because real stories matter.
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Just two best buds wanting to help passionate small biz owners connect with people and help their message reverberate to the masses. If you’re a brewery, winery, liquor store owner, or restaurant owner, this podcast is for you! All we give is free content, and that’s all I will ever give out! And if you want any content strategy or anything regarding social media strategy, We also do that for free. We’d love to help 😁 🍻
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Looking for ways to live your best life and leave a lasting legacy? You're in the right place! Welcome to the Point of Impact podcast, where host Aaron Hale, a former EOD tech, knows a thing or two about overcoming adversity. After a life-altering explosion overseas, Aaron decided to triumph over challenges and build generational wealth for his family through entrepreneurship and real estate investing. Join us in each episode as we chat with industry experts, who'll share their personal stor ...
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The Y Factor Podcast takes a deeper dive with entrepreneurs on how they got started, the struggles they had to overcome, and the driving force of WHY they keep on going. Learn how these individuals overcome obstacles and stay motivated. Find out how you can discover your WHY! Thank you for tuning in! Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/yfactor/support
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Disruptor Nation, this one’s for every high-achiever who's ever been told “you’re not enough.” Because today’s guest proves otherwise in the most extraordinary way. I sat down with Dr. John Demartini, a globally-renowned human behavior expert, philosopher, and author who overcame severe dyslexia and learning challenges to become one of the most pro…
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How We Hatched: Dr. Jay Rozzi, Vice President, Principal Engineer, and Partner at Creare In this bonus How We Hatched episode, we sit down with Dr. Jay Rozzi, Vice President, Principal Engineer, and Partner at Creare. With deep expertise in advanced manufacturing, cryogenics, and tech commercialization, Jay shares how his team develops breakthrough…
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Disruptor Nation, if you’ve ever tried to change a habit, hit a mental wall, or felt stuck in your own head, you need this conversation. I sat down with Dr. Ryan Cedermark, a top chiropractor, board-certified neurologist, nurse practitioner, and functional medicine expert who’s on a mission to redefine how we heal and grow. In this episode, Ryan br…
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Data Solutions in Regulated Environments: Scaling Innovation in Defense and Aerospace | The Pair Program Ep64 On this week’s episode of The Pair Program, we’re diving deep into defense innovation, mission-first data strategy, and the future of aerospace tech with Jake Dyal and Scott Dieckhaus, two leaders with decades of experience navigating high-…
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Steve “Moby” Leitch was a swimmer before he was a Moby, a man before a ministry leader, and a wanderer long before he ever became rooted. Born into the world of evangelical Christianity—his father preaching alongside giants like Billy Graham—Steve grew up in the polished halls of faith, where sin was unspoken and perfection expected. But he found m…
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Disruptor Nation, this one’s for anyone who’s ever felt trapped in success. I had the pleasure of talking with Eric Sardina, former C-suite exec, global consultant, marathon runner, and now purpose-driven coach about what it really means to win in life. After three decades in high-powered corporate roles at firms like Deloitte and EY, Eric made a r…
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Delivering Defense-Tech Ground Autonomy with DIU and Forterra | The Pair Program Ep63 What does the future of defense look like when the vehicles drive themselves? In this episode, we sit down with Paul Benfield (Head of Strategy at Forterra) and David Michelson (Director of Autonomy at DIU) to talk about the real-world deployment of autonomous gro…
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Disruptor Nation, buckle up because this one goes deep. I sat down with Lydia Knight, founder of The She Center, and what started as a story about leaving the Mormon church turned into a raw and revelatory masterclass in reprogramming your life. Lydia was born into what she now recognizes as a cult, wrapped in layers of religious extremism, patriar…
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From Service to Startup: Empowering Veteran-Led Innovation in Defense Tech | The Pair Program Ep62 What happens when veterans take the lead in shaping the future of defense tech? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Casey Perley from the Army Applications Lab and Guy Filippelli of Squadra Ventures, two powerhouses driving change from within and be…
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Disruptor Nation, today’s guest has lived the highs, the lows, and everything in between and come out the other side not just successful, but transformed. I sat down with Erik Hatch, real estate mogul, leadership mentor, recovering gambling addict, and purpose-driven dad to unpack a story that’s equal parts gut-wrenching and life-giving. From a fra…
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CTO Wisdom with Freedom Dumlao | Beyond The Program Welcome to CTO Wisdom. In this series, we interview technical leaders who have stepped into executive positions.Today’s guest host, Eric Brooke, speaks with Freedom Dumlao, CTO at Vestmark, in this episode of CTO Wisdom. We sit down with Freedom to explore his unconventional journey into tech and …
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Disruptor Nation, today’s guest is someone who lives at the intersection of intentional leadership and authentic legacy. I sat down with Mike McCarthy, Regional Owner of Keller Williams PA and co-founder of GoBundance for a raw and revealing conversation on what it really means to lead your family and business with integrity, purpose, and heart. Fr…
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Combating Deepfakes with AI Innovation: Reality Defender & BAH Ventures | The Pair Program Ep61 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Ben Colman (CEO and Co-Founder of Reality Defender) and Wes Blackwell (Managing Director at Booz Allen Hamilton) for a fascinating discussion on AI and national security. They dive into the dangers of …
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Disruptor Nation, today’s guest is the definition of resilience. I sat down with Myles Temple a cancer survivor, SCID warrior, powerlifter, filmmaker, and storyteller to unpack a story that isn’t just inspirational… It's transformational. Born with Severe Combined Immunodeficiency (SCID) and having fought off cancer, multiple transplants, and menta…
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Disruptor Nation, this episode is your permission slip to pause—and listen. I’m joined by Elaine Glass, healer, retreat leader, and author of Get Quiet, who’s on a mission to help us reconnect with our purpose, peace, and soul-level alignment. From the chaos of single motherhood and burnout to the sacred silence of the labyrinth outside her home, E…
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How We Hatched: Kevin Larrabee, Head of Product at DataShapesAI In this episode of How We Hatched, we’re joined by Kevin Larrabee, the Head of Product at DataShapesAI. In our conversation, Kevin takes us through the transformative role AI plays in Electromagnetic Spectrum (EMS) applications. He also shares how DataShapesAI is using AI-driven soluti…
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Ryan Woodruff grew up a quiet and shy boy, shaped by constant moves and a fractured home. With no father figure and a mother working multiple jobs, Ryan built his identity on survival and self-isolation. A sense of direction came from the film Full Metal Jacket, which introduced him to the idea of brotherhood in the military. He joined the Marine C…
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Disruptor Nation—this one hits different. I sat down with Joe Luplow, former Army Ranger turned elite trainer and entrepreneur, to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a body, a business, and a life that reflects the legacy you want to leave. Joe’s story is forged in adversity—from childhood challenges to military discipline, and …
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Disruptor Nation, today’s episode is a game-changer—especially if you’re a veteran or know someone who is. I sat down with John Davis, a combat-tested Army veteran, Harvard grad, and globe-trotting advocate for veteran wellness and financial freedom. His message? You don’t have to stay in the system to succeed. John unpacks why more and more vetera…
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The Dual-Use Debate: Crafting Smarter Startups from the Start | The Pair Program Ep60 Today on The Pair Program, we’re joined by Gene Kesselman, Director of Mission Innovation Experimentation at MIT, and Jake Chapman, Managing Director at Marque Ventures. Together, they dive into the evolving landscape of dual-use technology and the future of defen…
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Disruptor Nation, buckle up—because today’s episode pulls back the curtain on how the top 1% build and preserve wealth without Wall Street, and how you can too. I'm joined by Dave Wolcott, Marine Corps veteran turned elite investor and the visionary behind Pantheon Investments. Dave’s mission? To arm you with the tools, mindset, and strategies the …
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In this episode of The Point of Impact, I sit down with Brett Swarts—CEO of Capital Gains Tax Solutions, serial entrepreneur, and a man on a mission to flip the script on how we think about taxes, wealth, and legacy. From humble beginnings at The Cheesecake Factory to helping clients unlock over half a billion dollars in transactions, Brett drops p…
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How We Hatched: Nicolas Chaillan, Founder & CEO of Ask Sage On today’s episode of How We Hatched, we sit down with Nicolas Chaillan, Founder & CEO of Ask Sage and former Chief Software Officer for the U.S. Air Force and Space Force. From launching startups at age 15 to transforming tech adoption in national defense, Nick shares lessons from his unc…
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today’s episode is packed with insights you don’t want to miss. I sit down with Randy Gravitt—leader, coach, and author of Winning Begins at Home. Randy shares his journey of balancing work, family, and leadership, emphasizing that true success starts with the relationships we build and the values we uphold. Randy sh…
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Jonathan Heaslet has been many things over the years. An economics & mathematics major, military, minister, healthcare executive, and more. Jonathan never planned on taking the long way around, but life has a funny way of handing you detours. He spent years chasing certainty, believing that success was a straight line—only to find that some of his …
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today’s guest is Devin Ramos, a powerhouse entrepreneur with an incredible journey from the battlefield to the boardroom. In this episode, we dive deep into his story, uncovering the key lessons he’s learned along the way. Devin opens up about: His military background as a Green Beret and the leadership principles he…
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The Future Frontlines of Defense: 3D Drones and Strategic Logistics | The Pair Program Ep59 Dive into the future of defense technology with Chad McCoy of Firestorm Labs and Jeff Wright, military strategist and special ops veteran. Explore how 3D printing drones and new logistic strategies are paving the way for innovative solutions in the INDOPACOM…
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today’s episode is packed with insights you don’t want to miss. I sit down with Joe Evangelisti, a high-performance coach, CEO, and entrepreneur, whose journey from construction and flipping to self-storage and coaching is nothing short of inspiring. Joe opens up about his transition into real estate, the challenges …
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today’s episode is packed with game-changing insights. I sit down with Kathy Fettke, a real estate investing expert, author, and host of The Real Wealth Show. Kathy shares how she overcame limiting beliefs around wealth, the strategies she uses to identify profitable markets, and why understanding economic cycles is …
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Scaling Horizontally: EpiSci’s Strategic Play in Dual-Use Tech | The Pair Program Ep58 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by David Rothzeid (Principal at Shield Capital) and Bo Ryu (CEO of EpiSci) to unpack the challenges and opportunities in building and scaling dual-use technology. From startup funding paths to shifting dynamics in…
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today’s episode is one you won’t want to miss. I sit down with Whitney Sewell, an Army National Guard veteran turned real estate investor, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. Whitney shares his journey from law enforcement to real estate, building Life Bridge Capital, and using his success to support adoption and make …
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today, I sit down with Brent Beck, founder of Graphibex Games, to explore the creative and entrepreneurial journey behind his best-selling card games. From his early experiences in aviation to building a successful family-run business, Brent shares the lessons he’s learned about innovation, perseverance, and making a…
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How We Hatched: Feross Aboukhadijeh, Founder & CEO of Socket How do we secure open-source software in a world where supply chain attacks are on the rise? In this episode of How We Hatched, we sit down with Feross Aboukhadijeh, founder & CEO of Socket, to discuss the growing security threats in open-source development and how Socket is helping compa…
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! In today’s episode, I sit down with Ashley Wilson—real estate investor, entrepreneur, and author—to break down her journey of building a thriving investment business. From her early experiences in short-term rentals to leading teams and coaching others, Ashley’s insights are invaluable for anyone looking to make an i…
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Welcome back, Disruptor Nation! Today, I sit down with Bill Whittle—political commentator, author, and speaker—to talk about the pressing issues shaping our society. From the impact of A.I. and the responsibility of individuals to the future of leadership, Bill delivers powerful insights on the challenges we face today. We discuss: Mastering Your O…
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Cracking the Code: How Startups Can Win with MSP Partnerships | The Pair Program Ep57 How do startups break into the market without a massive sales force? And what do Managed Service Providers (MSPs) really look for in vendor solutions, beyond the sales pitch? In this episode, Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen sit down with Brian Luckey (CIO at Integris) …
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