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We Are The Great Turning

Joanna Macy & Jessica Serrante

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We welcome you to the kitchen table of the legendary eco-spiritual teacher Joanna Macy, where we’ll dive into what it takes to live with our hearts and integrity intact in this time of global crisis. You’ll be guided into these conversations by Jess Serrante, a longtime activist and student of Joanna’s. Together, we’ll discover abiding wisdom that can help us stay joyful and energized as we work toward a more just and life-sustaining world.
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On The Turning Point Podcast, we talk to mission driven leaders who are dedicated to social and environmental impact, doing their part to help our species navigate this critical moment of change. Joanna Macy, the great environmental activist and systems ecologist, said that when faced with planetry crisis, there are three stories we can tell ourselves. *Business as usual* in which we tell ourselves that some degree of damage is necessary for human progress. *The great unraveling* in which we ...
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The Plant Strong Podcast features women and men from all over the country who are serving and leading in diverse ministry contexts. You will hear stories from leadership veterans to women in the beginning years of church planting. Each episode will encourage you no matter your role in church planting. This podcast is produced by Bloom, a ministry of Stadia. Stadia is an organization that plants churches all over the world that intentionally care for children. Host Lisa Bennett planted Lifebr ...
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In this interview series sponsored by Post Carbon Institute, Vicki Robin, activist and best-selling author on sustainable living, talks with provocative thought leaders about emerging possibilities and ways humanity might step onto a better, post-pandemic path.
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These inspiring videos feature diverse, dynamic models of women leaders and show how women are reinventing leadership worldwide. Working across all fields, these women leaders are advancing gender equity, racial justice and cultural diversity. They elevate human qualities associated with the feminine to a place of balance with the masculine in our leadership, institutions and culture. They inspire and ignite greater leadership among all people. Since 1990, Bioneers has acted as a fertile hub ...
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Wider Roots

Jeremy Blanchard

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How can our social movement spaces create more opportunities for our internal transformation while we work for external change? Hosted by leadership coach Jeremy Blanchard, Wider Roots brings together wisdom teachers, coaches, and leaders who are wrestling with questions about how to bridge personal and systemic transformation. This show is for coaches, facilitators, and healers who want to explore approaches to personal growth that focus more on the well-being of the collective, instead of ...
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Battery storage is one of the most critical — and misunderstood — components of the clean energy transition. In this episode, Zahra Hargens Iliff, founder and CEO of Vessyll, joins us to talk about how her company is helping businesses cut costs and reduce grid strain by deploying on-site battery systems. We explore why battery storage is essential…
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On today's episode Lisa is joined by church planter Krystin Gilpin. Krystin and her husband Alex moved to Kansas City in 2013 with a heart and mission for urban church planting. Revive Church just celebrated its 10th year in February of 2025! In this episode you'll get a view into the real, raw and beautiful life of church planting.…
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Former athlete and advertising exec Dr. Justin Baker joins Ian C. Williams to share his journey through burnout, meditation, and a PhD in Human Factors. What starts as a personal healing story evolves into a deeper exploration of why self-awareness alone isn’t enough to create meaningful organizational change. Justin breaks down the flaws in the “m…
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Today on the show Lisa interviews Ashley Stegeman & Chad Manbeck. Ashley is the Director of Church Engagement and Partnerships at Stadia. Chad is the Lead Pastor at Richwoods Christian Church in Central Illinois. Today's episode is full of specific information about Stadia's Vision Trips. You don't want to miss this information or the surprising wa…
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Today on the show we have a 4 time repeat guest! We love to hear from Kadi Cole and today's show does not disappoint. Kadi is the founder and owner of Kadi Cole & Co., working with a wide range of clients as she helps them build healthy cultures, develop strategic plans, and scale for growth. Kadi also invests in the leadership development of the g…
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In this episode of The Turning Point, Ian C. Williams discusses the critical connection between personal transformation and planetary transformation. He emphasizes the urgency of addressing the sixth mass extinction and the need for individuals to take responsibility for their actions. Ian explores the concept of discipline as a means of learning a…
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Today on the show Lisa interviews Joanna Meyer. Joanna Meyer is director of public engagement at the Denver Institute for Faith and Work, where she leads public events, hosts the Faith and Work Podcast, and founded Women, Work, and Calling, a national initiative that equips Christian women for godly influence in public life. Today's conversation wi…
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Today on the show, Falyn Davis joins Lisa to discuss all things church planting. Falyn serves as co-pastor at Blueprint Church alongside her husband, Senior Pastor Matthew Davis, where they work together to build a Christ-centered community. Recently celebrating their one year anniversary, Falyn walks us through the joys and growth of being a new c…
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Discerning God's calling on our lives is not easy. If that calling includes stepping into church planting, it can feel down right impossible. Today on the show Lisa is joined by two of Stadia's best, Heidy and Jehieli, both of them intricate parts of Stadia's Discovery Center. Join in as they walk us through Stadia's Discovery Center process for po…
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Todays episode will help you love your people better, specifically those dealing with divorce. Join Lisa as she interviews Brandi Wilson. Brandi is a certified personal and executive coach, speaker and author. Brandi speaks from experience on this topic and provides so much wisdom, hope and guidance for both individuals facing divorce and how the c…
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Today on the podcast Lisa interviews Erin Taylor. In 2024, Erin and her family took a leap of faith by moving to the west side of Portland, Oregon to plant a church. Planning to launch in Fall of 2025, Erin is in the thick of the beginning stages of planting and honing her skills as a leader and pastor. Listen in as Erin describes her path to plant…
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Please enjoy this rerelease of Ep. 131 with Julie Stegman. Julie Stegman is a co-pastor at Resurrection City Church in St. Paul, Minnesota. Today Lisa and Julie talk about several hard realities of living in a broken world. Julie opens up about living with chronic illness and learning to trust in God's no and not yet answers to prayers.…
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Today on the show, Lisa interviews Janet McMahon. Janet and her husband Troy are the founding pastors of Restore Community Church, a multi-site church planted in Kansas City in 2008. Janet serves Restore as the Community Life Pastor and additionally serves as Co-Director of Exponential Women’s Next where she curates content designed to catalyze wom…
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Join today's guest host Kerry Smith as she interviews Jenni Keller. Jenni is a ministry leadership coach and consultant where she is an integration specialist that helps leaders align the good work they’re already doing with the best practices, leadership systems and people practices they desire. Listen in as they discuss the vital role that emotio…
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Join Lisa as she interviews Lori Wilhite. Lori is the founder of Leading and Loving It, which equips and encourages women leaders to love life in ministry. She also serves alongside her husband Jud who is the Senior Pastor at Central Church in Las Vegas. In today's episode Lisa and Lori discuss the realities of the sovereignty of God in our leaders…
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In this episode Lisa interviews Katie Fowler. Katie is a wife, mom and church planter. Together, with her husband Chuck, she leads Nova Church (a church plant in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Denver) as well as Corona Church. Listen in as Lisa and Katie discuss the joys and hardships of church planting and how to navigate the journey with grace.…
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Join Lisa and her guest Denine Blevins as they discuss the tough realities of church planting. Denine Blevins, provides leadership as the Executive Director of two distinct institutions: Parakaleo, a nonprofit that provides gospel-based support to women in church planting, and Uptown Community Church. Join the conversation as Lisa and Denine unpack…
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“Reminding ourselves that, that commerce is not the same thing as capitalism. Buying and selling things is a really old thing that human beings have been doing for way longer than capitalism has existed.”   Today's episode features anti-capitalist business coach Bear Hebert (they/them). We explore Bear's definition of capitalism as exploitation for…
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Vicki Robin, the once and possibly future host of What Could Possibly Go Right?, breaks her hiatus to share the first episode of We Are the Great Turning, an intimate kitchen table conversation with the elder ecophilosopher and guide Joanna Macy. As Joanna approaches the end of a long life dedicated to healing our imperiled planet, she begins the c…
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Today on the podcast Lisa sits down with our long time friend Jan Limiero. With 30 years of experience in ministry, training in deep healing, and experience as a life coach and spiritual director, Jan’s true self is uniquely designed to help you discover, explore, and live the true you! Listen in today as she and Lisa discuss the importance of lead…
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Since we’ve just completed the release of our 10-part series, We Are the Great Turning, we wanted to introduce you to another podcast with a spirit similar to ours: Outrage + Optimism. The episode we’re going to play for you is called “Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection.” It’s the first in a miniseries that shines a light on our rela…
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Today on the show Lisa interviews Lindsey Heslop. Lindsey Heslop is one of the pastors and co-founders of Kindred Church in Westminster, Colorado where she lives with her husband, Cole, and their two-year-old son, Sawyer. Join Lisa and Lindsey as they discuss the joys and challenges of church planting, especially in her unique co-leading context an…
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“It takes enormous courage and enormous compassion to face reality. To say ‘I want my little contribution to make a difference. Maybe only in the lives of my colleagues, family, and community, but that's enough actually.’” Today's episode is with author and systems thinker, Margaret Wheatley. For over four decades, she's been helping leaders show u…
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In Episode 10, “We Are the Great Turning,” Joanna shares a story called the “Shambala Warrior Prophecy,” which was told to her by her friend, Tibetan Monk Chogyal Rinpoche. Joanna was tasked with teaching this prophecy in the West, and it’s one of her most famous teachings. We wanted to separate the story from Episode 10 so that you can come back t…
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This bonus episode will support you to take the main insights from Episode 10, “We Are the Great Turning,” deeper into your life. Jess will guide you through an adaptation of the Work That Reconnects exercise called “Callings and Resources.” In it, you and a friend will take turns interviewing each other. You’ll name a contribution you’d like to ma…
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As this journey around the spiral comes to a close, Jess brings us back to the table with Joanna for one last profound conversation. Joanna shares an ancient Tibetan prophecy, “The Coming of the Kingdom of Shambhala,” which shows us that the way we build the Great Turning is through compassion and insight into the radical interdependence of all thi…
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Today on the podcast Lisa interviews Steve & Lisa Cuss. Steve is the author of Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs and The Expectation Gap and the founder of www.capablelife.com. Lisa is a Licensed Professional Counselor who runs her own private practice and works alongside her husband Steve with vision, coaching and speaking with Capable…
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