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DBT & Me

Michelle Henderson and Kate Sherman

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Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) was created by a woman named Marsha Linehan in the 1980s. The skills she created are now taught all over the world. DBT can improve depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorder, and other mental health struggles. We are Kate and Michelle, two mental health therapists in Seattle, WA. We have been teaching DBT groups as a team for years. Whether you've never heard of DBT before or are experienced with DBT skills, this podcast is here to help you use D ...
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The Couch and The Chair

Michelle Henderson and Kate Sherman

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Join Michelle Henderson and Kate Sherman as they discuss mental health topics from the perspective of being clients in therapy themselves and as therapists working with their own clients. Join the facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thecouchandthechair
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Kate and Michelle share how they are currently using wise mind in their lives before discussing 3 updates they want to make to how they originally spoke about wise mind in episode 2. They end the episode by sharing 6 new ideas for how to find wise mind that they have not talked about before. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free D…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about dealing with invalidation from others, positive attributes of DBT facilitators, conversations with family members who ignore boundaries, managing obsessive thoughts about health anxiety. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 24:00 to 25:17 Support the show If you want to…
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Kate and Michelle talk about limerence (the state of being infatuated or obsessed with another person) by answering a series of listener questions about the topic and discussing how DBT skills can help when this is being experienced. Magic Mind is a mental performance shot designed to help you maintain focus and reduce stress with less caffeine tha…
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Accepting the ending of any kind of relationship can be extremely challenging and filled with grief. Kate and Michelle share personal experiences of struggling with and practicing radical acceptance with friendship losses they've experienced in recent years. They also each share reflections on how radical acceptance can be practiced when a relation…
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If you've been using DBT for awhile, you know that it can become difficult to maintain momentum and desire to keep using skills consistently. In this episode, Kate and Michelle discuss four common challenges that can arise as barriers to regular skill use: not thinking about DBT enough, feeling willful about using skills, struggles to establish a c…
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Kate and Michelle discuss active passivity and apparent competence by first explaining each concept in-depth, followed by sharing personal examples and skills that can help with shifting into a place of healthier balance when struggles with these states take place. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you …
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about establishing daily habits, coping when a therapist cancels therapy sessions, making DBT accessible, and being triggered when you're the parent of a toddler. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussi…
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Kate and Michelle talk about each of their journeys to find meaning in their life, including how they were influenced by their parents about this topic and how they've both struggled and succeeded in adulthood with finding it. They provide tips on how you can start finding more meaning in your own life and conceptualize meaning-making differently. …
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Kate and Michelle talk about their personal reactions to the 2024 election results. They share different DBT skills for the emotions of fear, disgust, sadness and anger, and how DBT can help us both accept our emotions during this time and use them for positive action. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 1:06:07-1:06:…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about what to do when you're judging your partner, high anxiety, coping with a partner's drinking, and fears about a therapist "firing you." TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 38:45-39:06. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you c…
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Kate and Michelle are joined by Lynn Gray to discuss her personal experiences with mental health stigma from mental health providers. She reads aloud an article she wrote for Medium and talks about what can be done within the therapist community to start changing perceptions of mental health diagnoses to be more accepting and less damaging to clien…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about workplace burnout, being emotionally sensitive, feeling depleted after therapy sessions, and emotions that won't go away. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about long-standing family conflict, continuing to use skills after a group is finished, struggles with motivation, and differentiating between "reason" mind and wise mind. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/db…
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Kate and Michelle talk about how they have been impacted by family members holding different political views. Highlighting how politics have changed since 2016 when Trump was elected, they discuss the complexities of maintaining relationships with loved ones who have very different values. They share tips for communicating effective boundaries if n…
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TRIGGER WARING: at 19:33, 31:50, 44:45, 1hr 12min Michelle is joined by Diana Partington, who is a DBT facilitator, author, and podcaster. Diana reads an excerpt from her book and talks about what inspired her to write it, her newly launched podcast, and the webinars she offers. She talks with Michelle in-depth about how Buddhism brings in elements…
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Michelle is joined by Dr. Jesse Finkelstein, co-founder of TheraHive. They discuss the unique services TheraHive offers and how TheraHive aims to overcome some of the larger systemic barriers many clients face to accessing formal DBT resources. Throughout the episode, they highlight the importance of making DBT approachable and talk about ways this…
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Unfortunately, there is no monthly episode being released today. It will be coming out on October 9th and this 1-minute clip explains the reason why. We appreciate your patience and understanding! Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-t…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about using DEAR MAN in the workplace, changing thought patterns about trauma, medication side effects, and managing insecurities. TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains discussions of mental health issues that may be triggering to some listeners. If you want to avoid this content, skip minutes 25-30. Sup…
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Kate and Michelle both share their experiences of joy throughout different stages of life. They also talk about challenges that interfere with their ability to feel joy and what they are working on in therapy to overcome those challenges. They share suggestions for how to think about joy in a new way and how to bring more of it into your life. TRIG…
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Kate and Michelle each do a behavior chain analysis for behaviors that take place while worrying about different topics. They talk about how doing a behavior chain analysis can be a helpful tool for the next time you're experiencing worry about something. RELEASE DATE: August 28, 2024 Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about managing emotional reactivity when blindsided by big events, how to become more assertive, communicating feelings of disappointment to others, and feelings of overwhelm when talking about trauma. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: ht…
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RELEASE DATE: July 31, 2024 Kate and Michelle discuss how to be mindful of joyful experiences when they are occurring using mindfulness along with discussing three other skills that may lead to joyful experiences happening more often in your life. If you live in Washington state and want to start therapy with Michelle, you can find more information…
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Kate interviews Meg, our newest team member. Meg is our virtual assistant and podcast editor (since April). To learn more about DBT with Friends: https://www.instagram.com/dbtwithfriends To learn more about Therahive, check out their website here: https://www.therahive.com. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support gr…
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Episode Release Date: June 17, 2024 Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about waking up feeling angry, how to celebrate a successful use of skills, coping with difficult medical procedures, and managing conflict in a romantic relationship after moving. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can s…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about supporting a friend in an unhealthy relationship, the negative impacts of medication changes, remembering to use skills when in crisis, and helpful episodes when trying to rebuild yourself after grief. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed in this episode. Support the show If…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about whether or not to postpone processing emotions, how frequently to use distress tolerance skills, understanding the concept of "everyone is doing the best they can", and coping with willful people. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: h…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about what to do if a therapist breaches your confidentiality, reaching out to your therapist in between sessions, managing the impulse to talk "too much" and handling jealousy in a polyamorous relationship. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up he…
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Kate and Michelle are joined by Whitney Frost to talk about how DBT can be helpful in maintaining mental health while transitioning to parenthood, from trying to conceive all the way through the second year of parenthood. Whitney talks about what skills are most helpful to keep in mind and best practices for professionals when working with this pop…
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Kate and Michelle talk about the challenges and successes they've experienced with establishing friendships in adulthood. They discuss the reasons why adult friendships are difficult to start and maintain and provide tips for how you can start connecting with new people and making friends yourself. Support the show If you'd like to join the Faceboo…
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Kate and Michelle talk about practicing mindfulness and wise mind from a spiritual perspective. They discuss 4 key goals of mindfulness, 5 contemplative practices for accessing wise mind, elements of mystical experiences and their personal experiences with practicing mindfulness and wise mind spiritually. Support the show If you want to sign up for…
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Kate and Michelle talk about reasons when invalidation can be helpful and painful. They also talk about 12 ways DBT can help with recovering from invalidation after it happens, sharing their personal experiences along the way. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrit…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about going beyond "studying" DBT, recovering after being taken advantage of, handling feelings of jealousy, and disagreeing with family members about different morals/values. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e…
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Kate and Michelle discuss DBT's biosocial theory and explain how our ability to regulate our emotions is impacted by our physiology and our social environment. If you want to learn more about the podcast Kate will be a guest on, you can check out their website: https://speakthescience.com/miss-behavior-journal-club-podcast/ Support the show If you …
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Kate and Michelle talk about each of their relationships with their fathers during childhood and adulthood. They both share how they have found close connections with their fathers, as well as sharing flaws and past incidents of hurt. They also share suggestions for men who are fathers and how to heal wounded father relationships as an adult. TRIGG…
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Kate and Michelle discuss what it means to create a life worth living. They share how they are personally doing this as well as what they struggle with. They each share skills that can help you move closer to creating a life worth living for yourself. TRIGGER WARNING: Please note that material that may be triggering is discussed from 3:20-4:36, 27:…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about struggling with persistent depression, skills for self-hatred, online DBT groups, and how to effectively express disappointment. If you'd like to sign up for the free DBT peer support group through Kate's clinic, you can do so at this link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-5…
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Kate and Michelle's book, "DBT for Everyone: A Guide to the Perks, Pitfalls and Possibilities of DBT for Better Mental Health" is now released! They talk more in-depth about the structure of the book, plus they each read some favorite excerpts. Two lucky winners of free, signed copies are announced at the end! Support the show If you want to sign u…
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The holiday season is upon us! Kate and Michelle talk about each of their own childhood memories from the holidays, both positive and challenging. They share how they each celebrate holidays currently as adults. They also share suggestions that may help you during this time of year if you find yourself struggling to cope with stresses this time of …
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There's no October monthly episode today (lots has been going on in our lives!), but coming up in November we will be taking a deep dive into talking more about our BOOK! November 21st is the release date and we can't wait to share more about it with all of you. If you want to be entered to win a free copy, join our Patreon at the link below. The l…
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Kate and Michelle share about their current struggles in their marriages and their reasons for deciding to stay with their husbands in spite of the challenges. They both share tips for how to seek support and adjust your thinking if you also find yourself in a struggling relationship that you want to continue. Support the show If you'd like to join…
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Kate and Michelle discuss what codependency is (and isn't), how it relates to borderline personality disorder and which DBT skills may help reduce codependency in relationships with others. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about whether or not to move in with a partner who is not seeking mental health treatment, diving deeper into using DBT, struggling with cleaning, and how to keep using skills when your group is on a hiatus. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up he…
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Kate and Michelle each talk about three recent life events they've experienced over the past month that led to them using DBT skills personally. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 34:20-41:17. If you're a mental health professional/student and want to join us to learn more about our insider tips for launching and lea…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about coping after you've set boundaries with someone, struggling with children who are refusing to go to school, the difference between GIVE and DEAR MAN, and talking to an adult child about doing DBT in an in-patient setting. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about coping with loneliness after a breakup, whether or not to do DBT in a group and/or individually, skills for de-personalization and de-realization, and using check the facts with medical conditions. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: …
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Kate and Michelle are joined by special guest Sarah Kardelen to talk about coercive control in romantic relationships. Coercive control is a specific type of intimate partner violence defined as "a pattern of controlling behaviors that create an unequal power dynamic in a relationship." Sarah and Kate share their stories followed by Sarah, Kate and…
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Kate and Michelle are joined by special guest Carly Krespan to talk about her experiences of going through medical school and becoming a mental health provider while also having a personal diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder. Carly shares her story and talks about experiencing unfair treatment due to her mental health history. She also pro…
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Kate and Michelle discuss what DBT calls "skills training assumptions" and provide their thoughts on these seven key principles of dialectical thinking. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 21:14-21:42. If you're a mental health professional/student and want to join us to learn more about our insider tips for launching…
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Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about starting DBT groups, skills to use for various forms of grief, worrying about becoming a mom with a BPD diagnosis, and goals for parent/child relationships. Support the show If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussi…
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We've been leading coffee hour groups for a couple months and we would love it if you're open to taking 5-10 minutes of your time to answer a few quick questions for us so we can make this offering the best it can be! Here's the link to the survey questions: https://forms.gle/RjyC9zXmY34tWGzg9 If you want to sign up for our July coffee hour, you ca…
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