Hi. My name is Mike Maeshiro. I'm a gay, deconstructed former Christian minister. I wanted a place where I wasn't teaching and more inviting my audience on the journey with me in a candid and exploratory way. So I started this podcast. I hope my journey is helpful for you. With curiosity and a critical mind, let's dive in. Music by Alex_MakeMusic
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Church scandals, conmen, cults and charlatans. Deconversion "Therapy" Podcast is your place to laugh about shady televangelists to Christian rock concerts where no one is allowed to dance.
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In The Refined Collective podcast, host and author of Sexless in the City, Kat Harris creates a safe space to have honest conversations around faith, sexuality, relationships, politics, identity, Christian culture, deconstruction, and more. *What does the Bible really say about sex? *How does our faith impact our politics? *Is Christianity at odds with science? *Is the Bible still relevant? From purity culture, to deconstruction, dating apps, and LGTBQ+ issues—there’s no topic that’s off the ...
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Season 5: Episode 23 Jump in the back seat and listen in as Mike and his friend, Kristina record a candid and very real conversation about dating in 2025. Everything Numa Kristina Hart
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Transness and Disgust With Billie Hoard
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1:07:43Season 5: Episode 22 Christian, transgender, lesbian Billie Hoard explores the topics of queerness and disgust in this Pride Month episode. Billie Hoard: Substack | Bluesky Everything Numa
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Season 5: Episode 21 It is important to celebrate the things we want to remember and the people that we value. Pride month facilitates a collective agreement to take this time of the year and celebrate and prioritize the liberation and well-being of the queer community while also continuing to advocate for the work still to be done. Everyt…
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Season 5: Episode 20 Pastor, Zach Lambert from Restore Church in Austin, Texas joins Mike this week to share his story of leading a fully inclusive church in the fight for justice. Everything Numa Zach Lambert Substack | Better Ways to Read the Bible
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Let's Talk About the Bible with Pete Enns
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54:03Season 5: Episode 19 What is the Bible, and what do we do with it? This week Mike speaks with Pete Enns, author of numerous books that explore the Bible, including The Bible Tells Me So, The Sin of Certainty, and How the Bible Actually Works. Everything Numa Pete Enns Instagram | Website
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Season 5: Episode 18 Gay men, married to women, coming out, getting divorces and becoming besties with their ex-wives. In this episode, Mike interviews two of the men in his gay discussion group, Nate Erisman and Dan Kroening, who have done just that. Everything Numa Mike's Gay Discussion Group…
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Season 5: Episode 17 This last week Mike shared a post of a woman leaving a transphobic political event being harassed and bullied. That post ignited a lot of passion and controversy. In this episode, Mike speaks with author and follower of Love, Tamice Spencer-Helms about the fallout and necessity for standing in empathy. Everything Numa T…
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Season 5: Episode 16 Mike spent last week at the Post-Evangelical Collective gathering in Nashville this last week. This episode unpacks some of his experiences and highlights of the week. Everything Numa Post-Evangelical Collective
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Season 5: Episode 15 The United States Attorney General recently announced a task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias. In this episode Mike responds to this announcement and calls out the harm that white evangelicalism continues to impose upon the people it seeks to convert and control. Everything Numa Coaching Disloyal…
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Christian, Agnostic, & Queer with Brandan Robertson
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57:16Season 5: Episode 14 Rev. Brandan Robertson is a noted author, activist, and theologian known for his work at the intersections of spirituality, sexuality, and social justice. As Pastor of Sunnyside Reformed Church in New York City and founder of The Devout Foundation, he has become a leading voice in progressive Christianity. With over 250,000 fol…
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Season 5: Episode 13 There's violence that comes with leaving a particular group or belief system. In this episode Mike discusses the violent exits he's had to make in his life. Everything Numa
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Season 5: Episode 12 Before coming out and deconstructing, Mike was known as an expert in the discerning of spirts. It's a topic that he has avoided talking about despite many people's curiosity regarding his current understanding. In this episode, Mike opens the door to the possibility of exploring this further post evangelicalism. Everything Numa…
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Divorce, Asexuality & Ethical Non-Monogamy with Dr. Michael Simmons
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1:00:24Season 5: Episode 11 Dr. Michael Simmons is the founder of Inner Work Community LLC, an online collective of psycho-spiritual healers. He is a Shadow Work Coach with over a decade of experience initiating people into their inner landscape, and liberating them to embrace their authentic life. Everything Numa…
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Season 5: Episode 10 In this episode, Mike reflects on dating and the journey he's been on since coming out. Everything Numa
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Season 5: Episode 9 Jennifer Knapp is a grammy-nominated, singer-songwriter, author, speaker, and advocate, known for her musical talents and commitment to social causes. Everything Numa Jennifer Knapp Website
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Season 5: Episode 8 Kit Sargent is an LGBTQIA+ Mindset Mentor, budding astrologer, and host of the Queer Consciousness Podcast. Everything Numa Kit Sargent: Instagram | Podcast
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Episode 7: Season 5 Janice Lagata is back on the podcast! Storyteller. Upsetter. Believer in better. Janice speaks boldly so all can listen. Everything Numa @godhasnotgiven
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Season 5: Episode 6 Ashton Colby, Trans Spirituality Advocate & Keynote Speaker, featured by CNN, NBC, People, Today, and on TEDx, joins Mike to discuss the state of the US for trans people at this time. Everything Numa Ashton Colby: TikTok; Instagram
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Shawn Bolz - When Prophecy Hurts with Jubilee Dawn
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1:17:02Season 5: Episode 5 Jubilee Dawn joins Mike to share her story of an unsolicited Shawn Bolz prophecy that propelled her life into the darkest of places, and the healing journey that she has found on the other side.Trigger warnings: Spiritual abuse, domestic violence, suicide Everything Numa Jubilee…
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Season 5: Episode 4 Mike brings back special guest, reality star, Colton Underwood (The Bachelor, Coming Out Colton) to discuss the IVF journey, dating and to answer questions from followers. Everything Numa Daddyhood Podcast:Colton's Instagram
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Disloyal: Breaking Up with our MAGA Parents
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36:50Season 5: Episode 3 In this current political environment, navigating relationships with MAGA family members can be difficult and disheartening. Mike's sister, Mika, joins him to discuss their journey in navigating the toxicity of having MAGA parents and to announce a new group launching soon: Disloyal. Everything Numa…
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Progressive Pastor Talks Trump: Josh Scott
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55:14Season 5: Episode 2 In this episode, Mike interviews progressive pastor Josh Scott regarding his take on all things Trump. Josh is a multi-book author and the lead pastor at GracePointe Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Everything Numa Josh Scott
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Season 5: Episode 1 It's 2025 and in this episode Mike shares thoughts of Meta, dating and what's coming in the new year! Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 50 In this episode, Mike recaps his journey as a content creator in 2024. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 49 In this bonus episode, Mike speaks with his friend Mya. Her response to his original series: Trump Bullies, inspired the continuation and expansion of this discussion. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 48 In this episode Mike shares his current thoughts on life after deconstruction. Join Sparkle Everything Numa
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Connection-Based Parenting with Wendy Snyder
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47:37Season 4: Episode 47 Powerful Parenting Educator and Family Life Coach, Wendy Snyder joins Mike to discuss firm and kind connection-based parenting. Everything Numa Wendy Snyder | Instagram | Fresh Start Family
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Season 4: Episode 46 In this 2-part series, Mike shares some of his thoughts, reactions, and commentary around patterns he noticed in the comment section of his social media following the election. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 45 In this 2-part series, Mike shares some of his thoughts, reactions, and commentary around patterns he noticed in the comment section of his social media following the election. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 44 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Laura Anderson, PhD, MA, Author of When Religion Hurts You. Everything Numa …
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Season 4: Episode 43 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews JS Park, Author of As Long As You Need: Permission to Grieve. Everything Numa …
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Season 4: Episode 42 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Ryan Canty, Author of Deweaponize: Re-examining how we read the Bible in pursuit of a more Christlike interpretation. …
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Season 4: Episode 41 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Jenai Auman, Author of Othered. Everything Numa Queer and Affirming Writer'…
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Season 4: Episode 40 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Matthias Roberts, Author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms and Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith after Being Bur…
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Season 4: Episode 39 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews Brit Barron, Author of Do You Still Talk to Grandma? When the Problematic People in Our Lives Are the Ones We Love. …
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Season 4: Episode 38 In this series, Mike celebrates authors. People who have a message and a story to share and who have done the hard work to get their message out there. In this episode, Mike interviews April Ajoy, Author of Star-Spangled Jesus. Everything Numa Queer and Affirming W…
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Season 4: Episode 37 Lately Mike has been sharing more gym selfies and body photos. In this episode, he shares his journey from purity culture to gym selfies. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack
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Labels and Why We Need Them: Journal Entry #4
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24:35Season 4: Episode 36 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa God Made Me Gay - Substack…
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Season 4: Episode 35 How do you talk to your kids about sex when they're queer? In this episode, Mike explores the possiblity of open and honest conversations. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 34 In this episode, Mike shares about his visit to the most toxic church he's ever experienced. Everything Numa
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Surviving Spiritual Abuse with Tyler Williamson: Part 2
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1:17:55Season 4: Episode 33 In this episode, Mike brings back the guest from the most popular episode in 2023. Tyler Williamson shares more specific information and details about the spiritual abuse he endured while working in multiple ministries. This is part 2 of a 2 part interview. Everything Numa…
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Surviving Spiritual Abuse with Tyler Williamson: Part 1
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1:17:41Season 4: Episode 32 In this episode, Mike brings back the guest from the most popular episode in 2023. Tyler Williamson shares more specific information and details about the spiritual abuse he endured while working in multiple ministries. This is part 1 of a 2 part interview. Everything Numa…
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Season 4: Episode 31 Mike confronts the toxicity and harm created by ex-gay and side-b theology. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 30 Jump in the back seat and listen in as Mike and his friend, Mica record a candid and very real conversation. Everything Numa
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Season 4: Episode 29 In this follow-up to the series Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, Mike talks about his most recent visit with his parents and if the book changed how he experiences them. Everything Numa
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Evangelical Straight White Men in Leadership
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1:42:06Season 4: Episode 28 In this episode Mike interviews Sarah Heath and Keri Ladouceur—women who have been in evangelical leadership—regarding their experiences and perspectives navigating straight white men in those same spaces. Everything Numa Sarah Heath: Instagram Keri Ladouceur: Instagram…
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Will the Most Violent Win?: Journal Entry #3
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32:50Season 4: Episode 27 Journal Entries: Reflections Around Politics. It's an election year and that means some crazy stuff is about to happen! This series will show up, as needed, to pull apart, poke at, and examine political adjacent happenings. Everything Numa…
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Coming Out in a Straight Marriage: Nate's POV
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50:18Season 4: Episode 26 In this extension of the previous episode, Mike interviews Nate, Mya's straight husband who has walked alongside Mya in her sexual orientation discovery and coming out within their straight marriage. The Rainbow Room
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Coming Out in a Straight Marriage: Mya's POV
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1:12:53Season 4: Episode 25 In this episode, Mike interviews his friend Mya who is navigating her sexual orientation discovery and coming out within a straight marriage. The Rainbow Room
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PRIDE is over. But that doesn't mean we're done listening to people who survived evangelicalism and are now thriving as out LGBT people. Listen in on Karen's conversation with Mike Maeshiro, a former instructor at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry and his journey to being an out gay man. Find out more about him at https://www.mikemaeshiro.com/…
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