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The Story Behind The Song

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The Story Behind the Song finds host Peter Csathy digging into some of the most iconic songs of all time with the artists who made them. Others may scratch the surface, but we go deeper than anyone into the musician’s fascinating creative journey of how their most lasting songs came to be – and the moment that sparked their inspiration.
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Peter Csathy's podcast explores the future of entertainment, media and tech and features the entrepreneurs, executives, and creators leading the way - all with a healthy mix of mind, body and soul. Diverse stories, from diverse voices via Peter's expert analyses and exclusive interviews. Peter is an internationally recognized media, entertainment and tech expert and Chairman of Creative Media, a leading legal services and business advisory firm (creativemedia.biz). He is the author of severa ...
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the brAIn - real AI intelligence for media & entertainment

Peter Csathy, media, entertainment, AI & tech expert (chairman of Creative Media)

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All about how generative AI is transforming the world of media and entertainment - hosted by leading expert Peter Csathy of Creative Media (creativemedia.biz). "the brAIn" features Csathy's "insider" insights about the latest developments in generative AI and its impacts on media, entertainment, and the entire creative community. It also features interviews with leading artists, innovators, entrepreneurs, executives, and influencers. Each episode starts with Peter's humorous rundown of the l ...
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The Story Behind the Song's Peter Csathy is back to talk to legendary The Police drummer Stewart Copeland to talk about "Roxanne." Definitely known as "The Police Song," "Roxanne" is a song that changed the fortunes of the English rock band The Police. The song was written by lead singer and bassist Sting for their debut album Outlandos d'Amour, wh…
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In this special episode, Peter moderates a compelling Digital Hollywood virtual session focused on AI and the law (in the world of media and entertainment). It's called "Generative AI Law: Let's Get Real - Is Copyright a Right or Does it Have Temporary Legal Status?" Panelists include Karen Chesley (Senior Litigation Counsel at The New York Times),…
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In this special episode, Peter moderates a compelling Digital Hollywood virtual session focused on AI and the law (in the world of media and entertainment). It's called "Generative AI Law: Let's Get Real - Is Copyright a Right or Does it Have Temporary Legal Status?" Panelists include Karen Chesley (Senior Litigation Counsel at The New York Times),…
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In this special episode, Peter moderatea a panel of all-star "insiders" at Digital Hollywood's virtual event - in a session titled "The AI Royalty Marketplace: Licensing, Monetization & Revenue Share". It is a panel that discusses critical "insider" information not available elsewhere, including pricing for video used for AI training. Panelists inc…
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In this special episode, Peter moderatea a panel of all-star "insiders" at Digital Hollywood's virtual event - in a session titled "The AI Royalty Marketplace: Licensing, Monetization & Revenue Share". It is a panel that discusses critical "insider" information not available elsewhere, including pricing for video used for AI training. Panelists inc…
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This week, host Peter Chatty welcomes Salt-N-Pepa's Cheryl "Salt" James to The Story Behind the Song to break down their groundbreaking 1990 track "Let's Talk About Sex." Discover the song's provocative origins, designed with producer Hurby "Luv Bug" Azor to challenge radio censorship. Salt reveals how the track, meant to spark a necessary dialogue…
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This episode discusses Peter Csathy's latest musing about H.I. v. A.I. in the Arts and overall creative process -- with H.I. referring to Human Intelligence and the critical role of moment-in-time human emotion in the Artist's creative journey and resulting creative works (emotion that AI may be able to mimic, but never authentically capture). H.I.…
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This episode discusses Peter Csathy's latest musing about H.I. v. A.I. in the Arts and overall creative process -- with H.I. referring to Human Intelligence and the critical role of moment-in-time human emotion in the Artist's creative journey and resulting creative works (emotion that AI may be able to mimic, but never authentically capture). H.I.…
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Blondie are, without question, one of the most successful, iconic, and influential bands in rock and roll history. On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, listen to the band talk about their song "Rapture" and more. Inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 15 years ago, the Debbie Harry-fronted group has sold over 40 million albums w…
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This week on The Story Behind the Song, host Peter Csathy welcomes Sublime drummer Bud Gaugh to dive into the story behind their classic 1997 track "Wrong Way." Discover the song's spontaneous, beer-fueled origins at Willie Nelson's Texas studio. Gaugh reveals how a casual conversation was transformed overnight by frontman Bradley Nowell into the i…
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Don McLean earned the title of America's Troubadour with his iconic 1971 hit song "American Pie." This eight-and-a-half-minute folk rock track is considered a cultural touchstone in the annals of Americana, tracking the loss of innocence of the early rock and roll generation through oft-debated reference-rich lyrics about "the day the music died." …
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In this emergency podcast episode, Peter Csathy's co-hosts discuss the second ground-breaking AI copyright "fair use" decision in the past two days - this time Judge Vince Chhabria's in Kadrey v. Meta (from the same federal district court in Northern California in which Judge William Alsup sits, and who decided "fair use" in Bartz v. Anthropic). Th…
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In this emergency podcast episode, Peter Csathy's co-hosts discuss the second ground-breaking AI copyright "fair use" decision in the past two days - this time Judge Vince Chhabria's in Kadrey v. Meta (from the same federal district court in Northern California in which Judge William Alsup sits, and who decided "fair use" in Bartz v. Anthropic). Th…
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Host Peter Csathy was recently interviewed by Robert Milazzo who is a professor, creator and founder of The Modern School of Film — an educational studio that has produced hundreds of masterclasses and educational events to explore the intersections of community, craft and culture. Our topic? “AI Entrepreneurship.” It’s a wide-ranging discussion th…
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Host Peter Csathy was recently interviewed by Robert Milazzo who is a professor, creator and founder of The Modern School of Film — an educational studio that has produced hundreds of masterclasses and educational events to explore the intersections of community, craft and culture. Our topic? “AI Entrepreneurship.” It’s a wide-ranging discussion th…
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In this emergency episode, AI/media expert Peter Csathy's co-hosts discuss his just-posted written analysis of the first federal Judge's ruling on the critical issue of "fair use" in the context of generative AI. The decision was just handed down by Judge Alsup in the Northern District of California - and Csathy read and analyzed the full decision …
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In this emergency episode, AI/media expert Peter Csathy's co-hosts discuss his just-posted written analysis of the first federal Judge's ruling on the critical issue of "fair use" in the context of generative AI. The decision was just handed down by Judge Alsup in the Northern District of California - and Csathy read and analyzed the full decision …
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Last week, just in time for Cannes Lions 2025 — the most important advertising industry soiree of the year — New York’s legislature passed a groundbreaking new law that requires advertisers (and those who create those ads) to conspicuously disclose when an AI-generated “synthetic human” is used in ads. SAG-AFTRA called New York’s new law “a histori…
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Last week, just in time for Cannes Lions 2025 — the most important advertising industry soiree of the year — New York’s legislature passed a groundbreaking new law that requires advertisers (and those who create those ads) to conspicuously disclose when an AI-generated “synthetic human” is used in ads. SAG-AFTRA called New York’s new law “a histori…
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This week on The Story Behind the Song, host Peter Chatty welcomes the legendary Susanna Hoffs, singer, songwriter, and guitarist of the iconic 80s band, The Bangles. Hoffs takes us on a fascinating journey behind one of The Bangles' biggest hits, the 1989 power ballad, "Eternal Flame." Discover the surprising inspiration behind "Eternal Flame"—a p…
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Last week, host Peter Csathy called for Hollywood studios to finally cast aside their silence and join the AI copyright fight - to loudly voice the creative community's concerns about AI developers using their copyrighted works without consent and compensation. And two days later, Disney and NBCUniversal finally did - they sued generative image AI …
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Last week, host Peter Csathy called for Hollywood studios to finally cast aside their silence and join the AI copyright fight - to loudly voice the creative community's concerns about AI developers using their copyrighted works without consent and compensation. And two days later, Disney and NBCUniversal finally did - they sued generative image AI …
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On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, The Killers frontman Brandon Flowers reflects on one of the band's earliest songs -- "All These Things That I've Done." Listen to Flowers' insight into the tune. Flowers chats about the song's spiritual meaning, explaining how it grapples with themes of guilt, faith, and forgiveness. Ultimately, …
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Peter Csathy's synthetic co-hosts discuss Csathy's most recent article that discusses and analyzes where things stand in the current AI copyright infringement / "fair use" battle royale that is playing out between media and big tech companies in the federal courts. Csathy lays out the current state of affairs -- how federal courts have already deci…
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Peter Csathy's synthetic co-hosts discuss Csathy's most recent article that discusses and analyzes where things stand in the current AI copyright infringement / "fair use" battle royale that is playing out between media and big tech companies in the federal courts. Csathy lays out the current state of affairs -- how federal courts have already deci…
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The Queen of Disco herself, Gloria Gaynor, joins host Peter Csathy on The Story Behind the Song to explore her iconic, universal anthem "I Will Survive." Listen to Gaynor discuss her signature song. Released in 1978, "I Will Survive" was recorded while Gaynor was recovering from a paralyzing fall, and she recounts how her own situation allowed her …
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On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, we revisit a conversation with Gerald Casale of Devo about the band’s seminal 1980 single “Whip It.” Released as the second single off Devo’s Freedom of Choice, “Whip It” remains instantly recognizable with its hooky synthesizer lines, over-the-top vocal delivery, and overall silly tone. While it…
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Co-founder, singer, keyboardist, and songwriter Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo joins host Peter Chatty on The Story Behind the Songto explore the iconic "Girl U Want" from Freedom of Choice. Peter welcomes Mark to discuss the bouncing and boisterous track, its unique inspirations from a Glasgow pamphlet and The Knack's "My Sharona," and its enduring leg…
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On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, we revisit a conversation with Graham Russell of the Australian super duo Air Supply to discuss their smash hit “All Out of Love." Air Supply's own Graham Russell joins host Peter Csathy to talk about how “All Out of Love” came together and how Clive Davis' input made the song an international su…
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Lead singer and songwriter Adam Duritz of Counting Crows joins host Peter Csathy on The Story Behind the Song, to explore the iconic "A Long December" from Recovering the Satellites. Peter welcomes Adam to discuss the deeply emotional and moving song, its spontaneous creation in under 24 hours, and its enduring legacy as a fan favorite that continu…
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On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, we revisit the incredible music of Heart. Just last week, we brought you Nancy Wilson's insights into their powerful track "Barracuda." Now, we journey back to an earlier conversation with Nancy, exploring Heart's breakout classic from their early years: "Crazy on You." This iconic song, arguably…
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Guitar legend Nancy Wilson of Heart joins host Peter Csathy for her second appearance on The Story Behind the Song , this time to explore the iconic "Barracuda" from Little Queen. Following their previous engaging conversation about "Crazy On You," Peter welcomes back Nancy to discuss the powerful guitar licks and signature riff that define this cl…
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On this encore episode of The Story Behind the Song, revisit one of the most unexpected and authentic indie bands of the early 80s -- Violent Femmes. Breaking out big in 1983 with a unique sound and a hit-packed debut album, the Femmes created truly timeless jams, none more ubiquitous than "Blister in the Sun." The proto-folk-punk tune still makes …
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The Story Behind the Song returns for Season 4 to dive deep with legendary guitarist Mike Campbell of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers who joins host Peter Chatty to explore the iconic song "Refugee" from Damn The Torpedoes. Mike discusses his musical beginnings in Florida, from early rock influences to forming Mud Crutch with Tom Petty. He recounts…
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The Story Behind the Song returns to dive deep into some of music history’s most iconic tracks with the legends who made them. Host Peter Csathy sits down with the likes of Heart’s Nancy Wilson, Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker’s Mike Campbell, DEVO’s Mark Mothersbaugh, Sublime’s Bud Gaugh, Counting Crows’ Adam Duritz, and more for a fresh batch of e…
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This episode features a discussion of the great debate that is front and center now about OpenAI's new image generator, and how it's being widely used by users around the world to create anime art based on the "style" of famed anime artist Hayao MIyazaki. Many creative artists find what OpenAI is enabling to be infringing Miyazaki's works. But Open…
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This episode features a discussion of the great debate that is front and center now about OpenAI's new image generator, and how it's being widely used by users around the world to create anime art based on the "style" of famed anime artist Hayao MIyazaki. Many creative artists find what OpenAI is enabling to be infringing Miyazaki's works. But Open…
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Host Peter Csathy's "synthetic" co-hosts discuss a sobering reality that faces all websites (not just media publishers and entertainment companies). For general purpose search, consumers increasingly turn to conversational AI chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s Gemini, and Anthropic’s Claude — as well as to more utilitarian AI search engines l…
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Host Peter Csathy's "synthetic" co-hosts discuss a sobering reality that faces all websites (not just media publishers and entertainment companies). For general purpose search, consumers increasingly turn to conversational AI chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s Gemini, and Anthropic’s Claude — as well as to more utilitarian AI search engines l…
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Host Peter Csathy recently was a guest on Ricky Sutton's "Future Media" podcast to discuss the recent rejection of "fair use" as a defense to AI training infringement by the federal judge in Thomson Reuters v. Ross Intelligence. Peter discusses all the relevant business and legal issues that arise in the context of generative AI scraping of copyrig…
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Host Peter Csathy recently was a guest on Ricky Sutton's "Future Media" podcast to discuss the recent rejection of "fair use" as a defense to AI training infringement by the federal judge in Thomson Reuters v. Ross Intelligence. Peter discusses all the relevant business and legal issues that arise in the context of generative AI scraping of copyrig…
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In this episode, Peter Csathy's "synthetic" co-hosts discuss his most recent article that asks the provocative question, "Is 100% ethically sourced generative AI even possible?" Csathy's article lays out both sides of the argument - those who say it is possible (and must be done via content licensing), and those who simply believe it's too daunting…
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In this episode, Peter Csathy's "synthetic" co-hosts discuss his most recent article that asks the provocative question, "Is 100% ethically sourced generative AI even possible?" Csathy's article lays out both sides of the argument - those who say it is possible (and must be done via content licensing), and those who simply believe it's too daunting…
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This discussion focuses on host Peter Csathy's latest feature article of the same name, which explores whether AI can ever create truly "original" and groundbreaking Art without humans controlling it as a tool to their own human creation. The discussion focuses on what uniquely makes human "creation" divine and unmatchable by AI content generation.…
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This discussion focuses on host Peter Csathy's latest feature article of the same name, which explores whether AI can ever create truly "original" and groundbreaking Art without humans controlling it as a tool to their own human creation. The discussion focuses on what uniquely makes human "creation" divine and unmatchable by AI content generation.…
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Host Peter Csathy recently was a featured speaker at ThinkLA’s big AI-focused event (ThinkLA serves marketing and media executives). Peter invited CEO Eric Shamlin of production company Secret Level to join him. Shamlin and his team created the iconic AI-generated “Holidays Are Coming” Coke ad that became THE marketing story this past December. In …
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Host Peter Csathy recently was a featured speaker at ThinkLA’s big AI-focused event (ThinkLA serves marketing and media executives). Peter invited CEO Eric Shamlin of production company Secret Level to join him. Shamlin and his team created the iconic AI-generated “Holidays Are Coming” Coke ad that became THE marketing story this past December. In …
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In this episode, based on Peter Csathy's article of the same name, Peter's "synth" hosts discuss the central issue of remedies and damages for winning rights-holders in generative AI copyright cases -- and, relatedly, how the courts will even begin to assess monetary damages in a world where the relevant “harm” caused by an entire internet’s worth …
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In this episode, based on Peter Csathy's article of the same name, Peter's "synth" hosts discuss the central issue of remedies and damages for winning rights-holders in generative AI copyright cases -- and, relatedly, how the courts will even begin to assess monetary damages in a world where the relevant “harm” caused by an entire internet’s worth …
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This episode is a discussion of host Peter Csathy's new article titled, "Court Rejects AI's Fair Use: Now What?" (generated using Google NotebookLM). Csathy's article discusses all the issues raised by (and ramifications of) Judge Stephen Bibas's recent game-changing rejection of "fair use" as a defense to unlicensed AI scraping in the Thomson Reut…
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