Best Sales Schema Podcasts (2025)

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Audrey Kwan on How Micro Agencies Win Big: Niching, Community & the Power of Strategic Partnerships 43:10

7d ago43:10

43:10

What separates the agencies that consistently get referrals from those that don’t? According to Audrey Kwan, it comes down to trust equity. In this conversation, Dan Englander talks with Audrey consultant, community builder, and founder of Agency Together about how agencies can get off the feast-or-famine sales rollercoaster by building strategic p…

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From Chaos to Clarity: How Top Agencies Are Planning for Uncertainty 40:35

14d ago40:35

40:35

In this episode, Dan Englander welcomes back Nick Petroski of Promethean Research for a high-signal, data-backed deep dive into the state of the digital agency industry in 2025. From agency size trends to the truth about AI integration, Nick reveals what the numbers really say. Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Fu…

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How to Build an Agency Sales System That Won’t Break Your Soul (or Inbox) 22:04

21d ago22:04

22:04

What do you do when referrals dry up and the market gets shaky? In this solo episode, Dan Englander breaks down the key takeaways from his recent workshop: Implementing a Business Development System That Stands Up to Uncertainty. You’ll learn: Why reactive sales keeps you stuck in volatility How to shift to a proactive system that builds momentum T…

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Building Trust and Scaling Through Thought Leadership with Drew McLellan 41:09

1M ago41:09

41:09

We're bringing back one of our most valuable episodes a conversation that’s just as relevant today as when it first aired. The agency world has seen plenty of change in recent years. But with that change comes opportunity — for evolution, adaptation, and leadership. In this episode, Drew McLellan joins us to talk about the current state of the agen…

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Jon Tsourakis on How to Build a High-Performing Agency 49:52

1M ago49:52

49:52

In a world of economic uncertainty, shrinking budgets, and longer sales cycles, how do smart agencies continue to grow? Jon Tsourakis, Co-Founder of Oyova, reveals how embracing discomfort, staying authentic, and focusing on fundamentals can transform your agency’s performance even in the hardest times. Watch our latest video training, How to Take …

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Why Smart Agencies Are Choosing Retainers Over Projects with David Brecount 59:05

2M ago59:05

59:05

Are retainers the future of agency growth? In this episode, David Brecount — CEO and co-founder of US Digital Partners — returns to share how his agency survived and thrived over 23 years by doing the opposite of what most agencies chase: consistency over chaos, long-term strategy over shiny tactics, and relationships over quick wins. Watch our lat…

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Building Trust in a Skeptical Market - Dan on the Revenue Rehab Podcast 39:08

2M ago39:08

39:08

In this special episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, we’re featuring Dan Englander's recent guest appearance on the Revenue Rehab podcast with Brandi Starr. Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future Revenue. During this training, you’ll learn how we get qualified appointments every week using tasteful and …

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Matt Pensinger on How Agencies Can Drive Growth by Farming Existing Clients 53:06

2M ago53:06

53:06

Many agencies focus heavily on new business, chasing logos and cold leads—while the biggest growth opportunity is already in front of them. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander is joined by Matt Pensinger, founder of Accelerate Advisors and former EVP at Jack Morton, to talk about how agencies can stop leaving money o…

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Surviving the SEO Evolution: How Brandon Leibowitz Adapted to 17 Years of Industry Changes 49:24

2M ago49:24

49:24

As an agency owner or marketer, keeping up with rapid changes in SEO and AI can feel like chasing a moving target. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Brandon Leibowitz, founder of SEO Optimizers, joins Dan to share practical advice on evolving SEO strategies, leveraging AI without sacrificing creativity, and scaling an agency tha…

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Navigating the Trust Recession with Dan Englander | Featured on The Sales Maven Podcast 47:34

3M ago47:34

47:34

As an agency owner or B2B service provider, navigating today’s rapidly shifting buyer behavior can feel challenging. In this episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander joins Nikki Rausch on The Sales Maven Podcast for a dynamic conversation on the trust recession and how businesses can adapt to succeed in 2025 and beyond. Watch our…

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From CMO to CRO: How Marketing Leaders Are Evolving 45:28

3M ago45:28

45:28

As an agency owner, it’s easy to focus on lead generation and ignore what happens after someone enters your funnel. But neglecting the middle of the funnel could be the biggest mistake that's costing you clients. Brandi Starr, COO at Tegrita and host of the Revenue Rehab podcast, joins us this week to share how agencies can fix this common gap and …

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The best of my agency biz dev hot takes 21:08

3M ago21:08

21:08

As an agency owner, have you ever stopped doing something that used to work — even though you knew it was effective? You’re not alone. In this solo episode, Dan Englander, CEO of Sales Schema, shares hard truths about why agencies unintentionally sabotage their own growth, from drifting away from proven processes to falling into the trap of over-op…

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Surviving Uncertainty: Financial Strategies for Agencies 49:39

3M ago49:39

49:39

As an agency owner, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed by financial uncertainty, longer sales cycles, and unpredictable revenue. Ryan Watson, Partner at Upsourced Accounting, joins us this week to share key financial strategies agencies need to stay profitable and sustainable. With deep expertise in outsourced finance and CFO advisory, Ryan breaks down …

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Selling with Confidence and Authenticity 53:46

3M ago53:46

53:46

Selling isn’t just about persuasion—it’s about connection. Nikki Rausch, founder of Sales Maven and an expert in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) for sales, joins us this week to share her insights on building trust, guiding conversations effectively, and closing deals with confidence. Nikki breaks down the psychology behind successful sales inte…

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Why 99% of Agencies Struggle to Exit & and How to Beat the Odds 48:31

4M ago48:31

48:31

What does it take to scale, sell, and sustain a thriving agency? As an agency owner, finding the right balance between structure and creativity can be a challenge. Spencer Gallagher, founder of Cactus and co-author of Agencynomics, joins us this week to share his insights on scaling agencies, building long-term value, and navigating the ever-changi…

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Joe Ardeeser on The Secrets to Faster, Smarter, and More Profitable Proposals 44:01

4M ago44:01

44:01

The proposal process can be one of the biggest bottlenecks for agencies, leading to lost deals, scope creep, and unnecessary stress. Joe Ardeeser, founder of Smart Pricing Table, joins us to share how agencies can streamline proposals, close deals faster, and maximize profitability. Joe covers how agencies can eliminate inefficiencies, standardize …

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Greg Brooks on Going from High Stakes Poker to Building a 50-person Agency 55:19

4M ago55:19

55:19

Are you looking for a fresh way to get ahead in a competitive market? Greg Brooks, a seasoned entrepreneur with a background in professional poker, shares game-changing insights on how to leverage strategic thinking, risk assessment, and calculated decision-making to transform your agency’s revenue. In this illuminating conversation, Greg takes us …

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Graduating Out of Owner-Led Sales 35:04

4M ago35:04

35:04

As an agency owner, transitioning from referrals to a scalable sales system can feel overwhelming. In this special episode of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast, our host Dan Englander takes the guest seat on Agency Bites with Steve Guberman to share actionable insights and strategies for agency growth. This week, episode 246 of The Digital Agency G…

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Stephen Woessner on How to Build Agency Authority in 2025 56:37

5M ago56:37

56:37

As an agency owner, navigating the challenges of growth in a competitive landscape can feel overwhelming. Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI, joins us today to share his expert insights on adapting to industry changes and building a foundation for long-term success. This week, episode 245 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast is about transform…

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Marketing Max From Wall Street to 7-Figure Agency 51:31

5M ago51:31

51:31

In this episode of the Digital Agency Growth Podcast, Dan Englander chats with Marketing Max, a former Wall Streeter turned 7-figure agency founder, about the challenges of building a marketing agency, the power of niching down, and how clarity can unlock scalable growth. Watch our latest video training, How to Take Charge of Your Agency’s Future R…

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Melissa Lohrer on Rethinking the Traditional Agency Model and Founder-Led Sales 40:05

5M ago40:05

40:05

As an agency owner, it can be easy to feel stuck in the mid-six-figure range, unsure how to intentionally grow your business. Melissa Lohrer, CEO and founder of Waverly Ave Consulting, is here today to share her insights on rethinking the traditional agency model and building a solid foundation for growth. Melissa emphasizes the importance of nichi…

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Kevin Lee on Balancing Innovation, Agency Operations, and Growth 41:52

5M ago41:52

41:52

Ever wondered how a SaaS company successfully pivots to a full-service agency model? In this episode of the Digital Agency Growth Podcast, we sit down with Kevin Lee, the marketing mad scientist and CEO of Didit, a digital agency with a fascinating 25-year history. Kevin shares the inside scoop on Didit's evolution from a SaaS platform to a full-se…

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Brent Weaver on Embracing Specialization and The Power of Niche Focus 54:13

6M ago54:13

54:13

Are you struggling to stand out in what feels like a saturated market? Brent Weaver, the founder and CEO of UGURUS, has the answers you need. In this insightful episode, Brent dives deep into the power of specialization for digital agencies, sharing how his team has navigated 13 different niches to find unparalleled success. He also offers a glimps…

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Karl Sakas on Navigating Agency Growth and Exits and Calming the Chaos 43:52

6M ago43:52

43:52

Even if selling your agency is not first on your priority list, you should plan for it long before ever setting the wheels in motion. Karl Sakas is here today to share critical advice for agency owners considering an exit. From planning your post-deal activities to differentiating your agency in a crowded market, Karl provides a roadmap for maximiz…

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Max Traylor on Leveraging Productization and Maintaining Strategic Relationships 43:04

6M ago43:04

43:04

In the past few years, we’ve seen significant changes in the agency world, from the rise of AI impacting our businesses to seeing the marketing strategies pushed by big firms no longer producing results for many agencies. In this insightful episode, Max Traylor, an ex-agency owner and industry expert, shares his valuable perspectives on the evolvin…

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Adam Robinson on Navigating the Evolving Landscape of Outbound Sales 36:52

6M ago36:52

36:52

Are you struggling to cut through the noise and connect with your ideal clients? You’re not the only one. In the ever-changing world of outbound sales, it can be difficult to know the best ways to niche down and connect with your ideal clients. Adam Robinson is here this week to share his unique perspective on the changing landscape of sales and ma…

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Nick Petroski on Building Resilient Agencies in a Rapidly Changing Market 47:05

7M ago47:05

47:05

As an agency owner, you know the challenges of standing out in a crowded market and driving consistent growth. From navigating changing client demands to optimizing your operations, the path to success can feel elusive. Nick Petroski, founder of Promethean Research, shares the data-driven insights that are helping leading agencies overcome these ob…

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How to Balance Personalization and Scale | Sell With Authority Podcast 45:00

7M ago45:00

45:00

One of the biggest challenges agency owners and their teams face when it comes to business development is how to open doors efficiently, build meaningful relationships, and fill your sales pipeline without getting bogged down by a slow, one-by-one approach. Dan recently had the opportunity to guest on the Sell with Authority podcast hosted by Steph…

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Jonathan Stark on Ditching Hourly Billing and Embracing Value-Based Pricing 47:37

7M ago47:37

47:37

Hourly billing is incredibly common throughout the agency space. We’ve all seen it, paid for it, and probably have priced our work that way at one point as well. But hourly billing is not great for anyone involved in the transaction: those providing the service find themselves hitting a ceiling and unable to scale, while clients worry about how man…

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The Art of Building Trust Through Targeted Outreach 27:27

7M ago27:27

27:27

Are you struggling to cut through the noise and get your outreach messages noticed by the right prospects? Many businesses, especially agencies and B2B service providers, find it challenging to craft effective outreach copy that actually leads to meaningful conversations and new opportunities. In episode 234 of The Digital Agency Growth Podcast thi…

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Jody Sutter on Unlocking the Secrets to Building a Thriving New Business Culture for Your Agency 48:04

7M ago48:04

48:04

Building a strong client base is a significant goal for any agency to continue to scale. However, acquiring new business is not a one-size-fits-all situation in the agency space. Business development comes in many shapes and sizes, and what works for a ten-person team likely won’t be as effective for a 100-person company. A friend of the show, Jody…

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Steve Guberman on Overcoming Burnout and Building Successful Agencies 50:24

8M ago50:24

50:24

With a current economic downturn affecting agencies with slowed growth and uncertainty, many owners likely feel less than stellar about their businesses. But rather than get discouraged, now is the time to focus on strategic positioning, client retention, and, most importantly, your self-esteem and confidence in yourself and your agency. Steve Gube…

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Jonathan Baker on Preparing Your Agency for a Successful Acquisition 31:06

8M ago31:06

31:06

It’s common for merging and acquisition to be on an agency owner’s mind from the very beginning, even if it is not part of their original goals. Even if you find yourself still wanting to scale your business before selling, it’s never too early to start taking steps that will make the M&A process easier down the road. Jonathan Baker is here today t…

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Marcel Petitpas on Strategies for Improving Delivery Margin and Agency Profitability 51:03

8M ago51:03

51:03

Every agency owner wants to make sure that their business is as profitable as possible. But as an agency grows and there are more clients and employees to take care of and line items to consider, how do we peel back the layers to discover what’s holding us back from being more profitable? Marcel Petitpas is back again this week to share his insight…

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How We Optimize Outreach Agency-to-Brand Outreach 37:12

8M ago37:12

37:12

Last week on the show, we talked about taking a proactive approach with outbound by reaching out to their prospective clients and building authentic relationships. This week, Dan talks about Sales Schema’s actual methodology for doing so, the Targeted Outreach System, and focuses on giving you practical tips for optimization and a peek into the pro…

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Building Agency Pipelines Using Commonality-Driven Email Outreach 57:20

9M ago57:20

57:20

The role of outbound marketing has changed as marketing has developed over the years. The original playbook of reaching out thinking potential clients don’t know what they need no longer works. Knowledge isn’t what’s missing in the business equation anymore. It’s trust. Dan is here this week with Sales Schema’s revamped training to teach you the in…

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Danny Markstein on the Workforce Crisis and the Power of Specialization 45:24

9M ago45:24

45:24

We’ve seen a big shift in employment and the workforce over the last few years, and it can be hard to know what to expect going forward and what decisions are best for your agency. Danny Markstein is a seasoned professional when it comes to workforce solutions, and he’s here today to talk about the demographic shift in the workforce, the Great Rece…

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Jon Tsourakis on Leveraging Team Dynamics and Client Relationships for Agency Success 45:34

9M ago45:34

45:34

Whether or not to niche down is an age-old agency question and comes with lots of things to consider. But have you considered your team’s dynamic in preferences when taking on clients and forming relationships? Friend of the show Jon Tsourakis is back again this week to talk about how his team helps focus the niches the company focuses on, insights…

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Mandi Ellefson on Becoming a Hands-Off CEO 46:38

10M ago46:38

46:38

When scaling an agency, the CEO is usually deeply ingrained. But CEOs are supposed to work on the business rather than in the business, right? So how can a CEO make their agency scalable and run smoothly without them being present in the company's day-to-day operations? Mandi Ellefson of the Hands-Off CEO is here to offer her insights and guidance …

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Mike Brevik on Guerrilla Marketing, Nostalgia, and Building a Unique Agency Culture 41:13

10M ago41:13

41:13

We all know that trends in everything, especially marketing, come and go quickly. But just because a certain style or type of marketing isn’t in vogue in 2024 doesn’t mean it isn’t worthwhile. With the marketing landscape moving at a fast pace, it can be helpful to look at past techniques to see what worked in the past and how you can apply it to y…

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Josh Ledgard on Unlocking the Power of Word-of-Mouth and Effective Referral Marketing 35:15

10M ago35:15

35:15

Almost all businesses start getting clients based on referrals. And while that might feel less necessary as your business grows, referral marketing offers you a lot of options to make yourself stand out among your competitors, grow your email lists, and so much more. Josh Ledgard, founder of KickoffLabs, is here today to talk about how to take adva…

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Raul Hernandez Ochoa on Positioning Your Agency for Maximum Growth 44:14

11M ago44:14

44:14

There is so much information out there on growing and scaling your agency that it can be easy to lose sight of the strategies that matter most: offering your clients stellar results and making your services stand out in the market so you can find the clients that are the best match for you. Friend of the show Raul Hernandez Ochoa is here today with…

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Chelsea Olsen on Building Sustainable Agency Growth with Email and LinkedIn 44:38

11M ago44:38

44:38

Sustainable agency growth is possible for an agency of any size. The keys to success? Generating qualified leads and structuring sales teams who understand your business, want to see themselves and your company succeed, and have the capacity to rise to the challenge. Chelsea Olsen is here today to talk about her work as a Fractional Chief Growth Of…

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Ethan McCarty on Insights into the Evolving Employee Experience and the Importance of Curiosity 49:39

12M ago49:39

49:39

So many of our conversations here on the Digital Agency Growth podcast are about the businesses and clients we serve. But one important group often overlooked is the employees, both those of our clients and of our own. Ethan McCarty makes employee experience and excellence his priority at Integral, creating award-winning programs that inspire and m…

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How to Build a Repeatable New Business Process for your Agency Without Spam or Burnout 34:26

1y ago34:26

34:26

Here at Sales Schema, we know our podcast listeners are all at different stages of growth with their agency. And after hundreds of interviews with professionals across the agency space, one key takeaway stands out: to grow an agency, you have to build a system that keeps your sales funnel full without the owner having their hand in the process. Dan…

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Matt Lincoln on The Broken Predictable Revenue Model and Apollo’s Approach to Sales Outreach 42:43

1y ago42:43

42:43

The game that is sales outreach is always changing, and with so many schools of thought, it can be hard to keep up with best practices to keep your pipeline full. Matt Lincoln with Apollo.io is here this week to offer insight into how sales outreach has changed, what data is important for targeting your best leads, tips for making a cold outreach f…

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Drew McLellan on Building Trust and Scaling Through Thought Leadership 42:15

1y ago42:15

42:15

The agency space has seen its fair share of ups and downs over the past several years. However, as the industry landscape has changed, agencies have also adapted to meet their clients' needs and what they need to stay afloat. Drew McLellan is no stranger to the changes in the industry and is here today to talk about the state of the agency industry…

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Mark Scrivner on Entrepreneurship Insights and Restaurant Industry Lessons for Agencies 39:57

1y ago39:57

39:57

No matter what industry you work in, you will learn lessons and gain valuable skills that will carry over into other industries. Transferring to the agency space from the restaurant industry was easier than expected for Mark Scrivner due to the lessons and skills he learned about sales, marketing, and quality of service in his restaurant career. To…

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Melissa Morris on Streamlining Your Agency’s Ops and Why SOPs are Overrated 38:18

1+ y ago38:18

38:18

Operations are the unsung heroes in the agency space. Though not talked about as often as sales and marketing, having robust operations through efficient procedures and documentation keeps an agency running smoothly and profitably. But what are the right tools and techniques for your agency? Melissa Morris is here today to help you identify what wi…

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Corey Quinn on How to Build Your Agency’s Vertical Go-To Market Strategy 36:41

1+ y ago36:41

36:41

Specializing and niching down are topics we talk about a lot on the show simply because of their importance and effectiveness in scaling your agency. Hand-in-hand with specializing is scaling based on expertise in your niche instead of relying on founder-driven sales to keep the pipeline full. Friend of the show Corey Quinn is back this week to tal…

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