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Join multi-ethnic co-hosts Sara + Misasha - two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends - as they help folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us. Whether it’s about science, history, current events, social justice, or more, their community consists of people who want to be better humans, to benefit all of us. We won't let the fire hose of information overwhelm us. Whether you're a seasoned expert or new to the work, you'll find yourself listening, learning, ...
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We have a big announcement! We have rebranded and are now known as the podcast, What Do You Mean By That? If you’ve listened to our former show, Dear White Women, you know that What do you mean by that? has been one of our favorite questions to use to interrupt people in a healthy way, spur on conversation, and cue ourselves to listen. Our purpose …
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272: What Do We Mean by Therapy, and Culturally Responsive Care? with The Yellow Chair Collective
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Raise your hand if you’ve been to therapy before. My first time, if I’m remembering correctly, is a few months after my Dad died when I was in my mid-twenties, and my college roommate set me up with her aunt, who was a renowned psychoanalyst. She also happened to be Asian. Now that it’s been decades and I’ve had so many more experiences with so man…
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271: Having Unforgettable Presence, with Lorraine K. Lee
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Picture a successful business leader, and experience says you’re most likely to be picturing a white male right now. Similarly, the realm of business books has been dominated by white males for so, so long - which is why we find it incredibly refreshing to talk with someone who does NOT fit that mold and has an unforgettable presence all the same. …
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270: Six Years Later, And (No Surprise Here) We’re Still Talking
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By the time a human is six years old, they’re usually in formal schooling with wide-open minds, ready to learn. You’re learning that you can’t bring peanut butter in because some classmates might be allergic to peanuts (which shows you how to be a considerate citizen); you’re learning that you can’t call Suzie an idiot (because words have power); t…
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269: In Support of the Rule of Law, with Debbie Hines
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Even if you’re not a lawyer, the challenge that this administration is mounting to the rule of law affects you, too. When the president challenges the judiciary, when we as a country go after lawyers simply for doing their actual jobs, it hurts all of us. What’s happening now is weakening our judicial branch and centering power in the executive bra…
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Between the time when we recorded this episode and this introduction, so many of our learning institutions, including the Department of Education and the Institute of Museum and Library Services, are being systematically or haphazardly dismantled at the whim of our current President(s). This may send us into a spiral of despair - or, may even freez…
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267: Don’t Let Yourself Be Gaslit By Our Two Presidents
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Gaslighting. Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse that involves manipulating someone into questioning their sanity, memories, or perception of reality. Sounds horrible right? An example of this: a person or institution may say that an activist campaigning for change is irrational or “crazy,” or they may deny biases if someone confronts them…
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266: In Support of Transgender Lives with Schuyler Bailar
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In the United States, there are an estimated 1.6 million people who identify as transgender, which is about 0.6% of the population ages 13 and older. It’s about the equivalent of the population of Phoenix, Arizona; it’s just about how many people said on the US Census in 2021 that they are Japanese. Of course this population matters – AND, it’s not…
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265: The United States Should Focus On Equality, with Steve Phillips
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We need to be honest about our nation’s history - that we’ve always been a divided nation - if we’re going to be able to strengthen and maximize the full power and potential of our nation. What’s that nation we want to move towards? One dedicated to the proposition of equality. That’s the clear, fresh vision that our guest today, Steve Phillips, wr…
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264: Trump 2.0: What This Might Mean For Women, Parents, And All of Us
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Since every day since Trump’s second inauguration has likely brought a fresh onslaught of possibilities that range from the incomprehensibly absurd to those that actively promote authoritarianism and slash away at our fundamental rights, it’s also important to cut through the noise and figure out: what does this mean for us? Today, we’re touching o…
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263: How Are You Trump-Proofing Your Life?
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We’ve arrived in 2025, and assuming President-Elect Trump is inaugurated, this means he will be the first president to take office convicted of felony crimes. And since we know that an organization’s tone is often set by its leadership, we can’t help wondering: how will we see Trump’s leadership impact the culture of the United States, and how will…
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Tomorrow, we’ll be wishing our loved ones “akemashite omedetou gozaimasu” - or, Happy New Year, in Japanese. If you’re a long-time listener, you know that DEI work (or whatever we’ll be calling it going forward) is personal to us. We’re both the daughters of a Japanese immigrant parent and a white American parent each; the ideas of multiculturalism…
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261: How I Stopped Being a Model Minority, with Anne Anlin Cheng
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Today’s episode seems to be addressing this question: does politics show up in our everyday lives? Maybe even in our most intimate relationships? And while a lot of folks may be saying politics doesn’t impact me, I don’t do politics… we think the actual answer for most of us in this country is a resounding YES (in fact, we’ve recorded whole episode…
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260: The Anti-Ableist Manifesto, with Tiffany Yu
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There are SO many insightful conversations and incredible stories we’ve shared on this show, and this one was yet another example of one where we went in thinking one thing, and came out thinking another. Because we’ll be talking with an incredible advocate about ableism and disabilities - a label that, if we aren’t already impacted by it, is a lab…
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259: Making and Maintaining Friendships, with Dr. Marisa G. Franco
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We’ve had a lot of focus on this show leading into Election 2024 about the state of the country and the deep divides that we’re seeing in society. We’re grateful to and for everyone who worked to ensure that democracy worked in early November. AND, given the election results, we know that these divides still exist and have the ability to grow even …
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This is a short episode – about why we vote, and why we hold onto hope today and going forward – and it may be the episode that you need to hear today. If you’ve already voted: THANK YOU. If you haven’t voted yet, pause this and go do that. Spread the word. Please VOTE.By Misasha and Sara
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257: Abortion is About Women’s Health and Human Rights. Vote Like It.
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When we first recorded this episode, we were at the end of the Trump presidency, when we still had a legal right to abortion in this country. Roe v. Wade was still the law of the land, and women had access to safe abortion options in many states. Now, on the eve of the 2024 Presidential elections, abortion is on the ballot in a post-Dobbs world, wh…
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