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Sober & Lit Podcast

Susan Larkin & Ruby Williams

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Real talk for women ditching alcohol to feel lit — alcohol free. Sober & Lit is the podcast for women who are ready to rethink their drinking, take their power back, and build a life that actually feels better without booze. Join alcohol freedom coaches Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams for honest conversations, relatable stories, and real-life tools to help you get sober, stay sober, and feel truly lit — alcohol free. Whether you're sober-curious, cutting back, or already alcohol-free, you’ll ...
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Are you afraid the fun will end when you quit drinking? Are you nervous about what you will drink instead of your favorite alcoholic beverage? Welcome to the Thriving Alcohol-Free podcast with Deb, the Mocktail Mom. This is the place for delightful conversations about non-alcoholic cocktails and the joy of sober living. We celebrate authentic freedom of life without alcohol. There are many great podcasts about getting sober, but in this podcast, we will focus on the delicious world of non-al ...
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Send us a text What if your “wake-up call” didn’t have to be a disaster? In this powerful episode of the Sober & Lit Podcast, Coaches Ruby and Susan shatter the outdated belief that you need to hit rock bottom to reevaluate your relationship with alcohol. Do you really have to lose everything to want more for yourself? What if feeling meh is enough…
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Send us a text What if the key to lasting change isn’t more willpower… but less attachment to your thoughts? In this episode of Sober & Lit, we sit down with the brilliant Scott Pinyard—former Head Coach at This Naked Mind—to explore the surprising role mindset, story, and consciousness play in alcohol freedom and beyond. Scott shares the pivotal s…
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Send us a text Welcome to the Sober & Lit Podcast—where living alcohol-free gets to be bold, empowered, and dare we say… fun. In this episode, Susan and Ruby ask the question so many of us avoid: Is there ever a “right” time to change your relationship with alcohol? Spoiler: That time might just be now. As the air shifts and September energy rolls …
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Sober & Lit Podcast! In this episode, Ruby and Susan sit down with guest Lauren O’Hanlon—better known as Coach Lo—a certified life coach, former bartender, and ex-mommy-wine-culture enthusiast. Lauren opens up about her personal journey from hiding her drinking behind closed doors to creating a life of clarity, co…
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Join Deb as she welcomes Marissa Cherepanov, a leader in female empowerment and a dedicated advocate for women in leadership. Marissa shares her inspiring journey to sobriety, the challenges she faced during COVID, and how a pivotal conversation with her child led to a life-changing decision. Discover how Marissa's commitment to change not only tra…
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Send us a text What if “sober” wasn’t a label to hide—but a vibe to celebrate? In this bold new chapter of the podcast, your hosts Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams unveil the rebrand from Feel Lit Alcohol Free to Sober and Lit—and the deeper why behind the name change. Is the word sober finally being reclaimed? What happens when you stop whispering y…
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Join Deb from "Thriving Alcohol Free with Mocktail Mom" as she welcomes Kate Denaj, the inspiring force behind Clarity Zero Proof. In this engaging episode, Kate shares her transformative journey to sobriety, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of living alcohol-free. From her early days in a resort town to becoming a passionate advocate for n…
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Send us a text Are you feeding your freedom… or fueling your cravings? Welcome back to the Sober and Lit Podcast! Today, we’re getting real about something most sobriety conversations skip: how what you eat can change how you drink. Dr. Brooke Scheller—clinical nutritionist, founder of Functional Sobriety, and author of How to Eat to Change How You…
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Kristin Horstman shares her journey from gray area drinking to becoming a certified coach who helps others find freedom from alcohol while developing powerful nervous system regulation techniques. • Drinking exists on a spectrum with millions of people in the "gray area" between occasional consumption and end-stage addiction • Neural pathways creat…
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Send us a text Is “Drink Responsibly” Just a Marketing Scam? What if the phrase “drink responsibly” isn’t about safety—but about shifting blame? In this eye-opening episode of the Sober & Lit Podcast, Ruby and Susan peel back the glossy layers of alcohol marketing to reveal what’s really behind that familiar tagline. Why does the alcohol industry p…
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Deb, the Mocktail Mom, returns from a brief hiatus to share updates on her alcohol-free journey and exciting changes coming to the podcast. After 4.5 years without alcohol, she continues to find joy and gratitude in sobriety while focusing on spending quality time with her family before her youngest daughter leaves for college. • Four and a half ye…
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Send us a text What if that nightly glass of Chardonnay wasn’t really relaxing you—it was slowly unraveling you? In this powerful episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast, Ruby and Susan sit down with guest Allison Barber: former Division I gymnast, mom of three, Christian woman, and one-time Chardonnay queen who looked like she had it all toge…
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast! Today, we’re kicking off our brand-new “Alcohol-Free Myth Busters” series by tackling a juicy one: “Do sober people judge drinkers?” If you’ve ever wondered what your alcohol-free friend really thinks when you pour that second glass—or if you’ve felt awkward, defensive, or even misun…
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Send us a text What if giving up alcohol wasn’t about what you’re losing—but everything you’re about to gain? In this episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast, we’re joined by clinical psychologist Silvia Subirana, Unconscious Moderation's Head of Content Development, —who’s on a mission to make alcohol-free living more approachable, science-ba…
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Send us a text What if aging could feel expansive instead of limiting? What if breaking free from alcohol in midlife wasn’t a crisis—but a launchpad? In this episode, Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin sit down with their guest the fiercely wise and funny Debi Talbert—a former flight attendant turned alcohol-free mindset and longevity coach—who’s helpi…
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Send us a text "What do I do when I’m not feeling lit after quitting drinking?" In this refreshingly real episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, hosts Ruby and Susan tackle a question so many sober-curious and alcohol-free women secretly ask: “Why don’t I feel lit after quitting drinking?” You ditched the booze, expected fireworks… and instead? You're f…
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Coach Susan and Coach Ruby are thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a sought-after speaker, functional nutritionist, and creator of the revolutionary NOURISH Method ™ for alcohol-free living. Jolene is perhaps best known for her groundbreaking TED Talk, which…
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Send us a text What happens when one of New York’s top bartenders goes sober—and gets even better at his craft? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby and Susan sit down with award-winning bartender Chris Cardone, who’s flipping the script on what it means to thrive behind the bar—without drinking a drop. From winning the Diageo World Class…
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Send us a text What happens when you stop drinking—but the rest of your world doesn’t? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, we’re diving into the heart-pounding moment every sober-curious soul eventually faces: telling friends and family, “I don’t drink anymore.” Coaches (and co-hosts) Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin get real about the fears, a…
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Send us a text What if the first step to drinking less wasn’t quitting—but sitting still? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, we’re joined by Rory Kinsella, a former hard-drinking musician turned Vedic meditation teacher and sober coach. Rory shares how meditation helped him effortlessly shift away from alcohol—before he even planned to quit.…
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In this special episode, I am joined by Abbie Romanul from Raising the Bar to discuss our special collaboration for May's "Yo Mama" box, featuring exclusive mocktails honoring motherhood in all its forms. • The Yo Mama box features signature drinks: the Lavender Daughter and the Strawberry Daughter • We both share how we escaped "mommy wine culture…
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Send us a text "Help! I've been invited to a bachelorette party in Wine Country, and I'm not drinking. What should I do?" Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams are joined by special guest Martha Wright—known for of alcohol-free living in Paris. Martha, a former wine industry veteran…
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Send us a text What if the real magic isn’t just in quitting drinking—but in everything that comes after? Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast! In this episode your hosts and alcohol freedom coaches Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin get real about what happens after you put down the glass. From unexpected emotions to surprising wins, they…
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Send us a text What happens when “just one glass” turns into a deadly diagnosis? In this raw and riveting episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin sit down with Karla Adkins, co-founder of Zero Proof Life and author of She Came Tumbling Down. Karla was a young professional when she was diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver a…
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast! In this episode, we're diving deep into one of the most common beliefs we hear from clients: “I deserve a drink.” Sound familiar? Join your hosts and alcohol freedom coaches, Ruby and Susan, as we unpack the cultural conditioning behind using alcohol as a reward—and why it's time to …
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Send us a text What if the best thing you ever drank didn’t have alcohol in it? In this episode, Susan and Ruby sit down with the amazing Deb Podlager—aka Mocktail Mom—who went from drinking Chardonnay every weekend, to sipping spicy, spirit-free margaritas and leading a whole new movement. Deb shares how divorce, breast cancer, parenting through t…
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Send us a text What happens when you take alcohol out of dating, relationships, and major life transitions? Does connection get harder—or better? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby and Susan sit down with Jeanette Levitt, a certified coach who helps midlife women navigate drinking, divorce, and dating—without losing themselves in the pr…
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Life's most significant transitions deserve our full attention and presence. After faithfully recording 114 episodes over two years, I'm pressing pause on weekly podcast releases to embrace a precious season fully – my youngest daughter's final months before high school graduation. Recording from an Airbnb in Branson, MO with my phone hotspot, I wa…
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Send us a text Welcome back to Feel Lit Alcohol Free! In this episode we’re tackling a topic that’s raw, real, and rarely talked about—loneliness. Did you ever pour a drink just to fill the silence? You are not alone. Loneliness is one of the most common reasons we hear that people have fallen into drinking habits that no longer serve them. Susan a…
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Vanessa Royle never planned to launch a non-alcoholic beverage company. But when she quit drinking during the pandemic lockdown of 2020, something unexpected happened – she felt dramatically better. As she prepared to start her MBA at Harvard Business School, she made a pivotal decision to stay sober, creating an opportunity to reintroduce herself …
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Send us a text In this new episode, Hosts Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams are thrilled to have the remarkable Peggi Cooney—author, speaker, and sobriety advocate. Peggi's transformation from wine lover to alcohol-free warrior is nothing short of inspiring. Dive deep with us as Peggi reveals the life-changing ultimatum from her daughter that set her …
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Ruby Williams shares her transformative journey from working in the wine industry while drinking three bottles a day to becoming a sober coach helping others find freedom from alcohol dependence. • Struggled with disordered eating from a young age as her first coping mechanism • Underwent bariatric surgery, which unexpectedly transferred her addict…
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, your hosts, Susan and Ruby, dive deep into the complex relationship between alcohol and happiness. Ruby opens up with a question many of us have pondered: "Does alcohol really make us happy?" Sharing personal experiences and client stories, Ruby and Susan discuss the…
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Lindsay Hennekey shares her powerful journey from using alcohol to cope with life disappointments to creating a thriving alcohol-free life through her coaching program Feel Good AF. • Lindsay's drinking escalated when facing fertility issues and divorce, leading to daily alcohol consumption • We often drink to procrastinate and avoid dealing with d…
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Send us a text In this compelling episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast, Ruby and Susan are joined by the inspiring Rose Clark, a courageous mother, wife, and law enforcement officer who shares her riveting journey of overcoming grief and addiction. Having experienced profound loss with the tragic passing of her daughter Catherine, Rose spea…
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Discover the transformative power of choosing an alcohol-free lifestyle while traveling. This episode features a heartfelt conversation with Susan Larkin, a certified alcohol freedom coach, who shares her journey to breaking free from alcohol as a coping mechanism. - Understanding the societal pressures surrounding alcohol and vacations - Exploring…
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Send us a text Welcome to Feel Lit Alcohol Free, your go-to podcast for navigating the empowering journey of living alcohol-free. We’re Coaches Ruby Williams and Coach Susan Larkin; today we’re tackling a potent emotion that many encounter on this path—anger. A listener's question sparks a rich discussion: How can we process and understand the raw …
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This week, I’m hanging out with Lief Frederick, a bartender of 15+ years, an expert at crafting next-level non-alcoholic drinks, and the creator of @thevariantco on Instagram. Lief shares how his bar experience is helping people make better alcohol-free drink choices and opens up about his own journey to ditching alcohol, including the powerful rea…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast, Ruby and Susan are thrilled to welcome Todd Kinney, a distinguished attorney and acclaimed author from Omaha, Nebraska. Todd opens up about the internal conflicts and societal pressures he faced before giving up alcohol. He reflects on the positive impacts sobriety has had on his …
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Grab your favorite glass and prepare for a fun, flavor-packed chat with the brilliant Kendall Olsen, the mastermind behind @libations_library! Kendall is a pro at breaking down the art of mocktail-making into bite-sized, easy-to-digest goodness. In this episode, she lets us in on her go-to restaurant order, the local brands she loves, and why the m…
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Send us a text Welcome back to another invigorating episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! This episode answers a listener's question: "There's so much talk about having a morning routine, I'm struggling with this. Why is a morning routine so important?" Remember the days when "morning routine" just meant crawling out of bed to guzzle coffee…
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What happens when you take alcohol out of the equation? According to this week’s guest, Abby Calabrese, you get deeper connections, a clearer mind, and a whole lot more fun! Abby is a mom of two, a passionate advocate and coach for alcohol-free living, and the host of The Alcohol-Free Coterie podcast. After years of navigating social drinking norms…
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Send us a text Welcome to the "Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast." In this episode, hosts Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams are joined by Kate Nichols. Kate shares her transformative journey of living an alcohol-free life, highlighting the profound impact it had on her relationships, health, and travel experiences. From savoring sophisticated mocktails li…
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Hey friends! Did Dry January just fly by, or are you still cruising on that alcohol-free vibe? Either way, buckle up for a super fun episode featuring Mocktail Mo! If you missed the Mocktail Summit in January, don’t worry—today you’re getting one of the highlights: Mo’s deliciously easy Batanga mocktail. We’re diving into this drink recipe that’s b…
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Send us a text Ready to break free from the crippling "shoulds" that hold you back? In this episode of the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast, co-hosts Susan and Ruby dive into the sneaky, self-destructive habit of "shoulding" ourselves. How often do you catch yourself thinking, "I should be happier," "I should be more successful," or even "I should be …
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Ever wondered how a premium non-alcoholic wine is crafted? This week’s episode is a snippet from the recent Mocktail Summit 2025, where I had the pleasure of hosting a Happy Hour with Duncan Shouler, Chief Winemaker at Giesen and a trailblazer in the alcohol-free wine world. (If you want to catch the full summit replay, snag your pass now!) Duncan …
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Send us a text Welcome to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In today's episode, we're thrilled to chat with Sarah Dawkins, the inspiring holistic health coach and author of "Heal Yourself." Once a nurse, Sarah's personal journey of overcoming chronic illness through lifestyle changes and quitting alcohol is nothing short of amazing. Are you curiou…
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Ever wondered what bitters are or how to use them? This episode is here to demystify the magic of these tiny-but-mighty drink enhancers! Recorded as part of the recent Mocktail Summit 2025, I’m chatting with Ian Blessing, co-founder of All The Bitter, an incredible alcohol-free bitters company he runs with his wife, Carly. (Want to hear more about …
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Send us a text Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In today’s episode, Susan and Ruby confront the notorious "F word"—failure. As we kick off the new year, we dive into why failure might just be your secret weapon in tackling Dry January. Why is failure so feared, and could it actually be your biggest ally? Drawing from Andrew Huberm…
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Hey friends! Guess what? We’ve got Lilly from @MocktailsWithLilly in the house today! She’s serving up her radiant energy, gorgeous mocktail inspo, and some seriously good chats about thriving in an alcohol-free life. Lilly’s been alcohol-free for over four years now, and she’s absolutely glowing as she gears up to welcome her first baby (a boy!) i…
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