Best The Rettals Brothers Podcasts (2025)

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What If Loving Too Much Was the Real Spiritual Path? | Episode 78 33:10

18d ago33:10

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Send us a text Welcome back to Rettals Pub — where spirituality flows like bourbon and truth is chased, not preached. In this soulful and unscripted episode, we dive into what it really means to love deeply, embrace emotional honesty, and find sacred meaning in the messy parts of life — without the baggage of religion. This one’s for anyone who's e…

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When you realize it was all theater - Episode 77 33:44

1M ago33:44

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Send us a text Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it's a Damascus experience and you get "knocked the f*ck out". And you realize everything you thought was 'real', was merely a production. Think The Truman Show. Music & Bands we mentioned on the show: It's Been A While, Staind Amon Amarth Finger Eleven 3 Doors Down Creed What we drank on the show: Ke…

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Steps along the journey (Pt 4) Episode 76 24:52

1M ago24:52

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Send us a text The soul moves from one life to the next, wearing different 'spacesuits' each time, and death becomes equivalent with taking off a tight shoe. Resources mentioned: Soul Boom, Rainn Wilson Becoming Nobody, Ram Dass Tribes, Seth Godin Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https:…

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Steps along the journey (Pt 3) Episode 75 25:12

2M ago25:12

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Send us a text Does the body have a soul, OR does the soul have a body? Resources mentioned: Soul Boom, by Rainn Wilson The Tibetan Book of the Dead on Amazon Gaia Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://rettals.pub/survey YouTube: https://w…

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Steps along the journey (Pt 2) Episode 74 27:17

2M ago27:17

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Send us a text We continue discussing the journey through life, and how each step leads to the next. And when your beliefs and ideology change, and seem to be in direct conflict with an earlier premise, it's best viewed as merely an evolution vs a contradiction. We also talk gifts and how we were taught they are only tied to your religion. However,…

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They're all steps along the journey (Pt 1) Episode 73 28:50

2M ago28:50

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Send us a text In this episode, we welcome our new co-host, Billy Keene, who was a recent guest on the show! We talk spirituality, kindness, and serving...(shout out to one of our favorite local joints, El Gordo Taqueria, with our favorite waitress, Michelle!) What we drank on the show: Bulleit Rye Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate…

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Channel Update - April 2025 6:09

2M ago6:09

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Send us a text Nothing major - just a channel update. Cliff notes: 2 Year Birthday (Anniversary) New Co-Host New Studio We want to let all our listeners know that we appreciate you and hope to continue to provide content that is helpful for all of you. Thank you! Nate and the Rettals Pub team Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links…

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Love people. Show compassion. Have grace. (Conversation with Billy Keene, Pt 3) Episode 72 40:52

7M ago40:52

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Send us a text We all have gifts, regardless of whether religion plays a role in your life or not. Accept yourself as you are. Love people. Show compassion. Have grace. "Some people were not put here to evolve. They are here to remind you what it looks like if you don't." Resources mentioned on the show: Ram Dass Becoming Nobody Alan Watts The High…

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Finding where you fit (Conversation with Billy Keene, Pt 2) Episode 71 34:48

7M ago34:48

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Send us a text Billy's journey continues after leaving the Pentecostal organization, including his struggles with his sexuality, which were in direct conflict with Christianity. He shares being divorced, then being a single dad, to finding new love with his husband, his continuing search for spirituality, and his favorite 3 R's: reconciliation, res…

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Church = just another MLM?? (Conversation with Billy Keene, Pt 1) Episode 70 46:15

7M ago46:15

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Send us a text We talk with a long-time friend as he shares his journey out of the Pentecostal church. It began when he saw the greed, the focus and priority placed on constant fundraising, and the comparison to just another multi-level-marketing business. What we drank on the show: Man-mosa (beer-mosa) made with orange juice & Blue Moon Support th…

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Practice, not Perfection (Conversation with Tai Goodwin, Pt 3) Episode 69 21:32

8M ago21:32

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Send us a text We wrap up our interview with Tai and talk about people having "spiritual" gifts and being able to choose how and when they use them. And maybe there's a bigger reason why "God" doesn't answer our prayers...and it's not because we're unworthy or are being punished. You can find Tai online here: TikTok @taideconstructed www.taigoodwin…

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Be the Highest Version of Yourself (Conversation with Tai Goodwin, Pt 2) Episode 68 32:17

8M ago32:17

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Send us a text We continue our discussion with Tai, and how our purpose and mission is to be the highest version of ourselves. Resources mentioned on the show: Messy Spirituality, by Mike Yaconelli Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://ret…

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When you have to slice off pieces of yourself to fit (Conversation with Tai Goodwin, Pt 1) Episode 67 26:24

8M ago26:24

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Send us a text "I'm talking to those people who are struggling, who've not gotten your questions answered, who when they've asked questions have been told to be quiet, who have suffered mistreatment, abuse, and all other kinds of horrible things in the name of church and the bible and god and gotten no relief. And I'm also talking to those of us wh…

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Rettals' Pub Update - Message from Nate 2:00

8M ago2:00

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Send us a text Nate delivers a brief state of the channel, including the departure of host, Mason. Stay tuned, because good things are ahead, even in the midst of change! Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://rettals.pub/survey YouTube: ht…

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Pagan Christianity, Chapters 3-4 (Date Night) Episode 66 35:48

10M ago35:48

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Send us a text Did you know?? The pagan order of worship includes 'greeters', prayer, song service, announcements, offering, sermon, post sermon activities (pastor-led prayer, altar call, more singing, the Lord's Supper, prayer for the sick, benediction). Sound familiar?? "Christianity did not destroy paganism...it adopted it." Will Durant, promine…

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When Your Practice is the Problem (Conversation with Robert Williams, Pt 4) Episode 65 45:00

10M ago45:00

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Send us a text "It doesn't bother me when people practice their faith. It's only when their practice negatively affects someone else that it's a problem." We wrap up our interview with Robert, and discuss healing from trauma, anxiety, and periodic breakdowns. Want to contact Robert for freelance graphic design? [email protected] Robert's YouTu…

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Nothing New (Conversation with Robert Williams, Pt 3) Episode 64 32:14

11M ago32:14

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Send us a text We discuss how many passages in scripture aren't original and were copied from older texts, and how many seem to be out of alignment with what's considered right/wrong today by modern religion. Resources mentioned: Tribes, by Seth Godin Messy Spirituality, by Mike Yaconelli Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Web…

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Is Fundamentalism Tied to Ego? (Conversation with Robert Williams, Pt 2) Episode 63 30:22

11M ago30:22

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Send us a text We continue the conversation with Robert and discuss fundamentalism and the fact that it's found everywhere: work, home, politics, etc. It draws a line in the sand that leads to division and violence, and a sense of "I'm better than you", and "I'm right and you're wrong". Resources mentioned: Tribes, by Seth Godin Support the show *s…

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When Spiritual Abuse is Subtle (Conversation with Robert Williams, Pt 1) Episode 62 32:48

11M ago32:48

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Send us a text We interview Robert Williams, who shares his long time experiences within the Apostolic church, and what ultimately led to his exodus. Later, with the help of a therapist, he was able to identify the unrealized spiritual abuse that had occurred, and work to heal those traumas. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links …

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Pagan Christianity, Chapters 1-2 (Date Night) Episode 61 30:54

12M ago30:54

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Send us a text We discuss chapters 1 & 2 of Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola. Have you ever wondered why Christians do what they do for church every Sunday morning? Why do they “dress up” for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do they have pews, steeples, and choirs? Most of what Christians do in present-day churches is roo…

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Intro to Pagan Christianity (Date Night) Episode 60 34:31

12M ago34:31

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Send us a text In this first RP date night episode, Nate and Celeste introduce an impactful book they read around 15-20 years ago when they first exited the UPC Church. Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola examines a multitude of Christian church practices that have been accepted as 'gospel' or 'from the bible', when in reality, they were adopted from…

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Know Your Power (Conversation with Kali J Banks, Pt 2) Episode 59 44:40

12M ago44:40

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Send us a text We wrap up our discussion with Kali J Banks regarding awareness, and how once you broaden your awareness, then your interpretation of scripture is beyond just surface level. When you go within yourself, you unlock the keys to the 'mystery' of the bible. So often we give power and reverence to a church building, but God is within the …

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All that you need is within you (Conversation with Kali J Banks, Pt 1) Episode 58 33:32

1y ago33:32

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Send us a text What does it mean to forgive? What does it mean to love yourself? We speak with Kali J Banks about his book and what started him on the path to awareness. As within, so without. Resources mentioned: Awareness is Evolution, by Kali J Banks Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: …

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The Biggest Religion on the Planet (Conversation with Ron Lennex, Pt 3) Episode 57 27:00

1y ago27:00

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Send us a text We wrap up our interview with Ron in this 3rd episode by talking politics, the 'biggest religion on the planet'. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://rettals.pub/survey YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RettalsPub…

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When you're just DONE (Conversation with Ron Lennex, Pt 2) Episode 56 32:19

1y ago32:19

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Send us a text In this episode, Ron talks about growing up with feelings of not being accepted, or measuring up, and then refusing to tolerate those same feelings within the confines of religion. Nate shares that he believes true peace is found when you're able to just be who you are, and that begins with accepting yourself. As Ron says, "I'm a lit…

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When religion isn't all it's cracked up to be (Conversation with Ron Lennex, Pt 1) Episode 55 24:49

1y ago24:49

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Send us a text Ron talks about being raised Methodist as a kid, and also going to Catholic mass with his grandmother. He became spiritually curious as he grew older, and found out one of his buddy's father was a born-again Christian. They invited him to their church where he attended for a while. From there, he attended a trinitarian 'holiness' ful…

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Pagans and Christians and Satanists, Oh My! (Pt 3) Episode 54 30:37

1y ago30:37

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Send us a text Nate and Mason wrap up the last of this series by finishing the last of the 9 satanic statements written in the 1960s by Anton LeVey, while weaving in politics and (ex)evangelicalism. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://re…

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Pagans and Christians and Satanists, Oh My! (Pt 2) Episode 53 25:46

1y ago25:46

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Send us a text Mason finishes reading the list of sins found on the church of satan's website. Nate shares more about attending the local pagan market. And then they move on to the 9 satanic statements written in the 1960s by Anton LeVey. Resources mentioned: Prince - Super Bowl Halftime Show Polk County Pagan Market What we drank on the show: Bull…

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Pagans and Christians and Satanists, Oh My! Episode 52 31:40

1y ago31:40

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Send us a text Nate shares how he recently visited a local pagan market with various vendor booths set up - and for clarification, pagan doesn't mean blood sacrifices, but a rather broad spectrum of non-christians. There were many craftsmen present - wood workers, jewelry makers, bakers, food trucks and various other booths. There was also a booth …

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Happy 1st Birthday, Rettals' Pub! Episode 51 35:55

1y ago35:55

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Send us a text Happy 1st Birthday to Rettals' Pub! Join us as we talk about the past year plus plans for the next. We also manage to weave a bit of spirituality in and around laughs. Mason shares about a recent road trip he and his wife just took to New Mexico. And just like in life, while the mountains were beautiful, sometimes the valleys were mo…

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Your ego must die daily (Listener Question - Pt 4) Episode 50 25:00

1y ago25:00

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Send us a text We wrap up part 4 of listener questions by discussing that attachment brings suffering & pain, so your ego must 'die daily', as Paul said. If you've followed our podcast for a while, you'll find this is not a new topic, as many things circle back to this concept. Resources mentioned: The Zen Experience by Thomas Hoover Buckland's Com…

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Are evil humans pre-planned, or are they NPCs? (Listener Question - Pt 3) Episode 49 25:34

1y ago25:34

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Send us a text We dive into part 3 of listener questions: "Do souls actually choose a plan to incarnate and live a life of pure evil? To torture and rape and murder the innocent, to wreak unspeakable horrors and take delight in these things? Is this a sick, twisted version of "ordered steps"? Or could it be the human spirit was rotten and overrode …

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Are the soul and spirit separate entities? (Listener Question - Pt 2) Episode 48 29:36

1y ago29:36

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Send us a text We dive into part 2 of listener questions: "The Bible makes the distinction several times between the soul and the spirit. Is the spirit our "human spirit", the fleshly part of us that has inherited DNA which defines our very characteristics? Can this human spirit make choices not in alignment with the soul's plan? (In church speak t…

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Is it predestination or free will? (Listener Question - Pt 1) Episode 47 32:48

1y ago32:48

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Send us a text We received the below questions/comments from a listener: I've always been very much an individual who believes in free will. That there are good and bad consequences to every decision I make. That I'm ultimately in charge of where my path leads. You speak of "ordered steps", which is also referenced in scripture. This sounds like pr…

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Redefining how we see god & church (Conversation with Amanda Clark, Pt 3) Episode 46 32:46

1+ y ago32:46

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Send us a text We discuss how its harder, but more rewarding, to work out your own spirituality (without it becoming legalism); how it's easy to follow someone else's laundry list of do's/don'ts & be spoon-fed their version of 'god' but it shortchanges our souls; that being surrounded by nature is its own kind of 'church'; and that sometimes you ju…

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When your awakening & exodus leads to greater spirituality (Conversation with Amanda Clark, Pt 2) Episode 45 35:40

1+ y ago35:40

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Send us a text Amanda talks about dreams of past lives; her spiritual (supernatural) abilities, even as a small child, that were hidden rather than celebrated; her first invitation to attend a small group reading by a Medium, and how a beyond-the-grave apology brought her and her husband joy and peace rather than fear. Support the show *show notes …

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When the pursuit of truth leads you out (Conversation with Amanda Clark, Pt 1) Episode 44e 30:43

1+ y ago30:43

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Send us a text We finally get to talk with Amanda! She talks about her exit from the UPC and all the cool stuff that were the catalysts of that as well as the peace found outside the UPC. Let us know how we're doing or if you'd like to get a message to Amanda do so at https://rettals.pub/contact-us. You can also use that form to suggest topics, ask…

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Resolve to Serve No More - Even More - Episode 43e 33:00

1+ y ago33:00

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Send us a text Nate, a capitalist, blames the state of the nation on the Boomer generation because of their unfettered consumption and by putting their own needs and desires ahead of all others. Do you agree? Disagree? Let him know at https://rettals.pub/contact-us. You can also use that form to suggest topics, ask questions, or suggest spirits for…

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Resolve to Serve No More - Episode 42e 32:48

1+ y ago32:48

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Send us a text Mason and Nate talk about how their view of God has changed since their awakening as well as not serving tyrants. That said, how has your view of God changed? Let us know! Also, if you have any questions, concerns, topic suggestions, alcohol suggestions go to https://rettals.pub/contact-us/ and fill out the form! Étienne de la Boétie…

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Miracles, Magic, and Prosperity for Sale! Episode 41 40:51

1+ y ago40:51

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Send us a text We talk high-control, fear-based methods employed by religious leaders, as well as the peddling of "miracles, magic, and prosperity" for money. And we sprinkle in politics, current world events, health and diet. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/re…

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New Year's Musings (Purpose, Paganism, & Aliens) Episode 40 39:56

1+ y ago39:56

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Send us a text We kick off the new year with multiple topics. 1. If you strive to attain your highest purpose, the universe will align to that purpose. Choose the highest and best. 2. Is Christianity the cosplay of paganism? 3. Did aliens or some other higher intelligent life form create humanity on earth for the purpose of enslavement? Resources m…

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What does Voodoo have in common with Pentecostalism? Episode 39 37:29

1+ y ago37:29

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Send us a text Nate and Mason discuss extreme similarities between Pentecostalism and voodoo: Speaking in tongues Excessive shouting Being possessed by their deity Extreme physical response to said 'possession', i.e. writhing on the ground, uttering a different language, etc Beating of drums (rhythmic beating elevates vibrations of the masses) Reso…

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Why do Christians reject Reincarnation? Episode 38 43:22

1+ y ago43:22

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Send us a text Listener question: "Reincarnation has been a common belief across cultures and religions for thousands of years. Why do modern Christians fight so hard against this concept?" Nate answers this question with a single word: CONTROL Nate and Mason discuss how their recently found belief in reincarnation affects their spirituality. What …

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 6:00

1+ y ago6:00

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Send us a text We would like to thank each of you for listening! We hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy and Safe New Year! We look forward to another year of community with you. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://rettals…

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There is no spoon: waking up from the illusion of self - Episode 37 31:07

1+ y ago31:07

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Send us a text Nate and Mason discuss the idea of Samadhi. What is Samadhi? It's not something that is easily described because there are no real translations. The body wants comfort, and the mind wants knowledge. Samadhi is not running from pain, but also not running after pleasure. Be still. One way it has been explained is the waking up from the…

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Let life unfold - Episode 36 32:48

1+ y ago32:48

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Send us a text We discuss attachment and what that may mean (or not). And that maybe we just need to 'be' rather than 'do', to let our present life unfold versus being attached to a specific outcome. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://r…

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Attachments and 'I AM' - Episode 35 32:48

1+ y ago32:48

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Send us a text Yep, we talk attachments again, and what it means to say 'I AM'. Resources mentioned: Matt Kahn What we drank on the show: Vanilla Honeycomb Bourbon from Refuge Steakhouse in The Woodlands Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https…

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What are Chakras? Episode 34 32:48

1+ y ago32:48

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Send us a text We discuss the 7 chakras (or spiritual centers w/in the body), specifically the Root Chakra, which when imbalanced, can manifest as back pain, fatigue, digestive issues, anxiety & fearfulness. Resources mentioned: Nicky Sutton Kundalini Meditation Complete Guide to the 7 Chakras & their Effects What we drank on the show: True Love's …

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Happy Thanksgiving 5:40

1+ y ago5:40

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Send us a text We love you guys and are thankful for your presence listening to Rettals' Pub. Support the show *show notes may contain affiliate links Website: https://rettals.pub Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rettalspub/ Survey: https://rettals.pub/survey YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RettalsPub…

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Relax - You're Only Shown What's Needed When You Need It - Episode 33 32:48

1+ y ago32:48

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Send us a text Mason shares a quote from one of the Christian Orthodox Desert Fathers, Saint Theognostos: "Do not try to embark on the higher forms of contemplation before you have achieved complete dispassion, and do not pursue what lies as yet beyond your reach. Do not pursue theology beyond the limits of your present state of development." Resou…

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