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2.1 The Millers & the Smiths with Father of the Pod
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Every time the Utah Jazz are sold, Marc and Doug consult noted Utah business historian and educator (and lifelong fan of basketball in the State of Utah), Kai (the "Father of the Pod"). Kai reminisces on the Miller family's legacy, walking through the Larry, Greg, and Gail eras. Stories involve the infamous Laurie vs Larry Miller rivalry, Karl Malone, Julius "Dr. J" Erving and many other figures in Jazz and ABA-NBA history. The brothers and the Father of the Pod also touch on their thoughts about the future Ryan Smith era of the Jazz, including what this might mean for the Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert era.
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