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Secure Code Reviews, LLM Coding Assistants, and Trusting Code - Rey Bango, Karim Toubba, Gal Elbaz - ASW #330 1:09:38

5 days ago1:09:38

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Developers are relying on LLMs as coding assistants, so where are the LLM assistants for appsec? The principles behind secure code reviews don't really change based on who write the code, whether human or AI. But more code means more reasons for appsec to scale its practices and figure out how to establish trust in code, packages, and designs. Rey Bango shares his experience with secure code reviews and where developer education fits in among the adoption of LLMs. As businesses rapidly embrace SaaS and AI-powered applications at an unprecedented rate, many small-to-medium sized businesses (SMBs) struggle to keep up due to complex tech stacks and limited visibility into the skyrocketing app sprawl. These modern challenges demand a smarter, more streamlined approach to identity and access management. Learn how LastPass is reimagining access control through “Secure Access Experiences” - starting with the introduction of SaaS Monitoring capabilities designed to bring clarity to even the most chaotic environments. Secure Access Experiences - https://www.lastpass.com/solutions/secure-access This segment is sponsored by LastPass. Visit https://securityweekly.com/lastpassrsac to learn more about them! Cloud Application Detection and Response (CADR) has burst onto the scene as one of the hottest categories in security, with numerous vendors touting a variety of capabilities and making promises on how bringing detection and response to the application-level will be a game changer. In this segment, Gal Elbaz, co-founder and CTO of Oligo Security, will dive into what CADR is, who it helps, and what the future will look like for this game changing technology. Segment Resources - https://www.oligo.security/company/whyoligo To see Oligo in action, please visit https://securityweekly.com/oligorsac Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-330…

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AI Era, New Risks: How Data-Centric Security Reduces Emerging AppSec Threats - Idan Plotnik, Vishal Gupta - ASW #329 1:03:03

12 days ago1:03:03

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We catch up on news after a week of BSidesSF and RSAC Conference. Unsurprisingly, AI in all its flavors, from agentic to gen, was inescapable. But perhaps more surprising (and more unfortunate) is how much the adoption of LLMs has increased the attack surface within orgs. The news is heavy on security issues from MCPs and a novel alignment bypass against LLMs. Not everything is genAI as we cover some secure design topics from the Airborne attack against Apple's AirPlay to more calls for companies to show how they're embracing secure design principles and practices. Apiiro CEO & Co-Founder, Idan Plotnik discusses the AI problem in AppSec. This segment is sponsored by Apiiro. Visit https://securityweekly.com/apiirorsac to learn more about them! Gen AI is being adopted faster than company’s policy and data security can keep up, and as LLM’s become more integrated into company systems and uses leverage more AI enabled applications, they essentially become unintentional data exfiltration points. These tools do not differentiate between what data is sensitive and proprietary and what is not. This interview will examine how the rapid adoption of Gen AI is putting sensitive company data at risk, and the data security considerations and policies organizations should implement before, if, and when their employees may seek to adopt a Gen AI tools to leverage some of their undeniable workplace benefits. Customer case studies: https://www.seclore.com/resources/customer-case-studies/ Seclore Blog: https://www.seclore.com/blog/ This segment is sponsored by Seclore. Visit https://securityweekly.com/seclorersac to learn more about them! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-329…

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Secure Designs, UX Dragons, Vuln Dungeons - Jack Cable - ASW #328 44:08

19 days ago44:08

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In this live recording from BSidesSF we explore the factors that influence a secure design, talk about how to avoid the bite of UX dragons, and why designs should put classes of vulns into dungeons. But we can't threat model a secure design forever and we can't oversimplify guidance for a design to be "more secure". Kalyani Pawar and Jack Cable join the discussion to provide advice on evaluating secure designs through examples of strong and weak designs we've seen over the years. We highlight the importance of designing systems to serve users and consider what it means to have a secure design with a poor UX. As we talk about the strategy and tactics of secure design, we share why framing this as a challenge in preventing dangerous errors can help devs make practical engineering decisions that improve appsec for everyone. Resources https://owasp.org/Top10/A04 2021-Insecure Design/ https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/1251421.1251435 https://www.threatmodelingmanifesto.org https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc9700.html https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/secure-by-design Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-328…

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Managing Secrets - Vlad Matsiiako - ASW #327 1:03:03

26 days ago1:03:03

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More WAFs in Blocking Mode and More Security Headaches from LLMs - Sandy Carielli, Janet Worthington - ASW #326 1:14:45

5 weeks ago1:14:45

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The breaches will continue until appsec improves. Janet Worthington and Sandy Carielli share their latest research on breaches from 2024, WAFs in 2025, and where secure by design fits into all this. WAFs are delivering value in a way that orgs are relying on them more for bot management and fraud detection. But adopting phishing-resistant authentication solutions like passkeys and deploying WAFs still seem peripheral to secure by design principles. We discuss what's necessary for establishing a secure environment and why so many orgs still look to tools. And with LLMs writing so much code, we continue to look for ways LLMs can help appsec in addition to all the ways LLMs keep recreating appsec problems. Resources https://www.forrester.com/blogs/breaches-and-lawsuits-and-fines-oh-my-what-we-learned-the-hard-way-from-2024/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/wafs-are-now-the-center-of-application-protection-suites/ https://www.forrester.com/blogs/are-you-making-these-devsecops-mistakes-the-four-phases-you-need-to-know-before-your-code-becomes-your-vulnerability/ In the news, crates.io logging mistake shows the errors of missing redactions, LLMs give us slopsquatting as a variation on typosquatting, CaMeL kicks sand on prompt injection attacks, using NTLM flaws as lessons for authentication designs, tradeoffs between containers and WebAssembly, research gaps in the world of Programmable Logic Controllers, and more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-326…

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In Search of Secure Design - ASW #325 1:07:36

6 weeks ago1:07:36

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We have a top ten list entry for Insecure Design, pledges to CISA's Secure by Design principles, and tons of CVEs that fall into familiar categories of flaws. But what does it mean to have a secure design and how do we get there? There are plenty of secure practices that orgs should implement are supply chains, authentication, and the SDLC. Those practices address important areas of risk, but only indirectly influence a secure design. We look at tactics from coding styles to design councils as we search for guidance that makes software more secure. Segment resources https://owasp.org/Top10/A04 2021-Insecure Design/ https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign/pledge https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign https://kccnceu2025.sched.com/event/1xBJR/keynote-rust-in-the-linux-kernel-a-new-era-for-cloud-native-performance-and-security-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel-maintainer-fellow-the-linux-foundation https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/how-linux-is-built-with-greg-kroah https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/04/07/writing-c-for-curl/ Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-325…

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Avoiding Appsec's Worst Practices - ASW #324 1:11:19

7 weeks ago1:11:19

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We take advantage of April Fools to look at some of appsec's myths, mistakes, and behaviors that lead to bad practices. It's easy to get trapped in a status quo of chasing CVEs or discussing which direction to shift security. But scrutinizing decimal points in CVSS scores or rearranging tools misses the opportunity for more strategic thinking. We satirize some worst practices in order to have a more serious discussion about a future where more software is based on secure designs. Segment resources: https://bsidessf2025.sched.com/event/1x8ST/secure-designs-ux-dragons-vuln-dungeons-application-security-weekly https://bsidessf2025.sched.com/event/1x8TU/preparing-for-dragons-dont-sharpen-swords-set-traps-gather-supplies https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3514.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149.html Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-324…

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Finding a Use for GenAI in AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #323 54:08

8 weeks ago54:08

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LLMs are helping devs write code, but is it secure code? How are LLMs helping appsec teams? Keith Hoodlet returns to talk about where he's seen value from genAI, where it fits in with tools like source code analysis and fuzzers, and where its limitations mean we'll be relying on humans for a while. Those limitations don't mean appsec should dismiss LLMs as a tool. It means appsec should understand how things like context windows might limit a tool's security analysis to a few files, leaving a security architecture review to humans. Segment resources: https://securing.dev/posts/ai-security-reasoning-and-bias/ https://seclists.org/dailydave/2025/q1/0 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.16165 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229 https://nicholas.carlini.com/writing/2025/thoughts-on-future-ai.html Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-323…

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Redlining the Smart Contract Top 10 - Shashank - ASW #322 53:01

9 weeks ago53:01

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The crypto world is rife with smart contracts that have been outsmarted by attackers, with consequences in the millions of dollars (and more!). Shashank shares his research into scanning contracts for flaws, how the classes of contract flaws have changed in the last few years, and how optimistic we can be about the future of this space. Segment Resources: https://scs.owasp.org https://scs.owasp.org/sctop10/ https://solidityscan.com/web3hackhub https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-322…

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CISA's Secure by Design Principles, Pledge, and Progress - Jack Cable - ASW #321 40:34

10 weeks ago40:34

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Just three months into 2025 and we already have several hundred CVEs for XSS and SQL injection. Appsec has known about these vulns since the late 90s. Common defenses have been known since the early 2000s. Jack Cable talks about CISA's Secure by Design principles and how they're trying to refocus businesses on addressing vuln classes and prioritizing software quality -- with security one of those important dimensions of quality. Segment Resources: https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign https://www.cisa.gov/securebydesign/pledge https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/product-security-bad-practices https://www.lawfaremedia.org/projects-series/reviews-essays/security-by-design https://corridor.dev Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-321…

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Curl and libcurl are everywhere. Not only has the project maintained success for almost three decades now, but it's done that while being written in C. Daniel Stenberg talks about the challenges in dealing with appsec, the design philosophies that keep it secure, and fostering a community to create one of the most recognizable open source projects in the world. Segment Resources: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/01/23/cvss-is-dead-to-us/ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2024/01/02/the-i-in-llm-stands-for-intelligence/ https://thenewstack.io/curls-daniel-stenberg-on-securing-180000-lines-of-c-code/ Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-320…

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12 weeks ago33:56

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Top 10 Web Hacking Techniques of 2024 - James Kettle - ASW #318 44:57

13 weeks ago44:57

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We're getting close to two full decades of celebrating web hacking techniques. James Kettle shares which was his favorite, why the list is important to the web hacking community, and what inspires the kind of research that makes it onto the list. We discuss why we keep seeing eternal flaws like XSS and SQL injection making these lists year after year and how clever research is still finding new attack surfaces in old technologies. But there's a lot of new web technology still to be examined, from HTTP/2 and HTTP/3 to WebAssembly. Segment Resources: Top 10, 2024: https://portswigger.net/research/top-10-web-hacking-techniques-of-2024 Full nomination list: https://portswigger.net/research/top-10-web-hacking-techniques-of-2024-nominations-open Project overview: https://portswigger.net/research/top-10-web-hacking-techniques Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-318…

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Unforgivable Vulns, DeepSeek iOS App Security Flaws, Memory Safety Standards - ASW #317 35:52

14 weeks ago35:52

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Code Scanning That Works With Your Code - Scott Norberg - ASW #317 37:01

14 weeks ago37:01

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Code scanning is one of the oldest appsec practices. In many cases, simple grep patterns and some fancy regular expressions are enough to find many of the obvious software mistakes. Scott Norberg shares his experience with encountering code scanners that didn't find the .NET vuln classes he needed to find and why that led him to creating a scanner from scratch. We talk about some challenges in testing tools, making smart investments in engineering time, and why working with .NET's compiler made his decisions easier. Segment Resources: - https://github.com/ScottNorberg-NCG/CodeSheriff.NET Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-317…

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New SLAP & FLOP Attacks, OCSP Fades Away, DeepSeek's ClickHouse, OAuth 2.0 Security - ASW #316 34:47

15 weeks ago34:47

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Speculative data flow attacks demonstrated against Apple chips with SLAP and FLOP, the design and implementation choices that led to OCSP's demise, an appsec angle on AI, updating the threat model and recommendations for implementing OAuth 2.0, and more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-316…

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Threat Modeling That Helps the Business - Sandy Carielli, Akira Brand - ASW #316 36:54

15 weeks ago36:54

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Threat modeling has been in the appsec toolbox for decades. But it hasn't always been used and it hasn't always been useful. Sandy Carielli shares what she's learned from talking to orgs about what's been successful, and what's failed, when they've approached this practice. Akira Brand joins to talk about her direct experience with building threat models with developers. Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-316…

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Opengrep & Semgrep, Hacking Subarus, Hacking Synths, Stealing Cookies, and RANsacked - ASW #315 34:57

16 weeks ago34:57

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An open source security project forks in response to license changes (and an echo of how we've been here before), car hacking via spectacularly insecure web apps, hacking a synth via spectacularly cool MIDI messages, cookie parsing problems, the RANsacked paper of 100+ LTE/5G vulns found from fuzzing, and more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-315…

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Security the AI SDLC - Niv Braun - ASW #315 33:38

16 weeks ago33:38

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A lot of AI security boils down to the boring, but important, software security topics that appsec teams have been dealing with for decades. Niv Braun explains the distinctions between AI-related and AI-specific security as we avoid the FUD and hype of genAI to figure out where appsec teams can invest their time. He notes that data scientists have been working with ML and sensitive data sets for a long time, and it's good to have more scrutiny on what controls should be present to protect that data. This segment is sponsored by Noma Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/noma to learn more about them! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-315…

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Appsec Predictions for 2025 - Cody Scott - ASW #314 52:10

17 weeks ago52:10

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What’s in store for appsec in 2025? Sure, there'll be some XSS and SQL injection, but what about trends that might influence how appsec teams plan? Cody Scott shares five cybersecurity and privacy predictions and we take a deep dive into three of them. We talk about finding value to appsec from AI, why IoT and OT need both programmatic and technical changes, and what the implications of the next XZ Utils attack might be. Segment resources: https://www.forrester.com/blogs/predictions-2025-cybersecurity-risk-privacy/ Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-314…

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PyPI's Quarantine, Phishing & Awareness, Porting Fishshell to Rust, Cyber Trust Mark - ASW #313 31:43

18 weeks ago31:43

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Design lessons from PyPI's Quarantine capability, effective ways for appsec to approach phishing, why fishshell is moving to Rust component by component (and why that's a good thing!), what behaviors the Cyber Trust Mark might influence, and more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-313

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Discussing Useful Security Requirements with Developers - Ixchel Ruiz - ASW #313 36:04

18 weeks ago36:04

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There's a pernicious myth that developers don't care about security. In practice, they care about code quality. What developers don't care for is ambiguous requirements. Ixchel Ruiz shares her experience is discussing software designs, the challenges in prioritizing dev efforts, and how to help open source project maintainers with their issue backlog. Segment resources: https://github.com/ossf/scorecard https://www.commonhaus.org/ https://www.hackergarten.net/ Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-313…

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Removing Rust, Double Clickjacking, h3i CLI, JWT Mistakes, Reviewing Recursion - ASW #312 33:24

19 weeks ago33:24

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Curl removes a Rust backend, double clickjacking revives an old vuln, a new tool for working with HTTP/3, a brief reminder to verify JWT signatures, design lessons from recursion, and more! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-312

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DefectDojo and Bringing Quality Appsec Tools to Small Appsec Teams - Greg Anderson - ASW #312 33:48

19 weeks ago33:48

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All appsec teams need quality tools and all developers benefit from appsec guidance that's focused on meaningful results. Greg Anderson shares his experience in bringing the OWASP DefectDojo project to life and maintaining its value for over a decade. He reminds us that there are tons of appsec teams with low budgets and few members that need tools to help them bring useful insights to developers. Segment Resources: https://owasp.org/www-project-defectdojo/ Three-quarters of CISOs surveyed reported being "overwhelmed" by the growing number of tools and their alerts: https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/cisos-throwing-cash-tools-detect-breaches As many as one-fifth of all cybersecurity alerts turn out to be false positives. Among 800 IT professionals surveyed, just under half of them stated that approximately 40% of the alerts they receive are false positives: https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/97260-one-fifth-of-cybersecurity-alerts-are-false-positives 91% of organizations knowingly released vulnerable applications, 57% of vulnerabilities are left unresolved by developers, 32% of CISOs deploy vulnerable code in the hopes it won’t be discovered, 56% of developers struggle to prioritize vulnerability fixes: https://info.checkmarx.com/future-of-application-security-2024 Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-312…

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Ancient Curl Bug, AWS re:Invent, Malware in NPM, Census III Report, MS OTP - ASW #311 35:35

22 weeks ago35:35

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Curl's oldest bug yet, RCPs (and more!) from AWS re:Invent, possible controls for NPM's malware proliferation, insights and next steps on protecting top 500 packages from the Census III report, the flawed design choice that made Microsoft's OTP (successfully) brute-forceable, and more! 00:00 - Intro & Cyber Resilience Insights 01:20 - The 25-Year-Old Curl Bug Story 04:17 - Fuzzing for Security: A Missed Opportunity? 08:46 - AWS re:Invent Security Highlights 11:54 - NPM Malware Surge 16:33 - Small Packages, Big Risks in NPM 19:55 - Open Source Security Trends 24:27 - Microsoft MFA Vulnerability Explained 28:28 - Hardware Hacking & DMA Exploits 30:55 - Auditing Ruby’s Package Ecosystem 34:02 - Looking Ahead to 2025 Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-311…

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Applying Usability and Transparency to Security - Hannah Sutor - ASW #311 34:09

22 weeks ago34:09

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Practices around identity and managing credentials have improved greatly since the days of infosec mandating 90-day password rotations. But those improvements didn't arise from a narrow security view. Hannah Sutor talks about the importance of balancing security with usability, the importance of engaging with users when determining defaults, and setting an example for transparency in security disclosures. Segment resources https://youtu.be/ydg95R2QKwM 00:00 Welcome to Application Security Weekly! 01:49 Meet the Experts 03:28 What Are Non-Human Identities? 06:17 Balancing Security & Usability 08:24 MFA Challenges & Admin Security 12:09 Navigating Breaking Changes 16:05 Security by Design in Action 18:42 Identity Management for Startups 20:18 Secure by Design: Real Impact 24:03 Transparency After a Critical Vulnerability 31:39 Looking Ahead to 2025 32:45 Application Security in Three Words Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-311…

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AI's Junk Vulns, Web3 Backdoor, LLM CTFs, 5 GenAI Mistakes, Top Ten for LLMs - ASW #310 29:02

23 weeks ago29:02