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Highlights From The Comments On Tegmark's Mathematical Universe

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[Original thread here: Tegmark’s Mathematical Universe Defeats Most Arguments For God’s Existence.]

1: Comments On Specific Technical Points 2: Comments From Bentham’s Bulldog’s Response 3: Comments On Philosophical Points, And Getting In Fights

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[Original thread here: Tegmark’s Mathematical Universe Defeats Most Arguments For God’s Existence.]

1: Comments On Specific Technical Points 2: Comments From Bentham’s Bulldog’s Response 3: Comments On Philosophical Points, And Getting In Fights

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-tegmarks

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