Patrick Escarcega: Software Engineering Principles - Episode 341

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Engineering Practices for LLM Application Development

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Topics of Discussion:

[3:30] Patrick recalls the moment he transitioned from individual software developer to leading teams, highlighting the importance of understanding how software adds business value beyond just code.

[5:00] Patrick describes the joy he rediscovered in coding when starting his own company, emphasizing the delicate balance between hands-on coding and leadership responsibilities.

[7:50] The head chef and food scientist analogy.

[9:26] The importance of creating a safe environment, a “pit of success,” so developers can naturally follow best practices without feeling constrained.

[10:36] Why readable, maintainable code is crucial, especially for senior leaders whose time is spent reading code more than writing it. [13:27] Comparing software engineering creativity to building an engine from “invisible Lego bricks," emphasizes the hidden creativity involved in engineering solutions. [15:08] The importance of leaders giving developers space and freedom to craft innovative solutions, rather than overly prescribing methodologies.

[17:00] Running integration tests.

[20:41] Accessibility and WCAG compliance explained: Why accessibility should be an integral part of software development and testing workflows. [23:14] EqualWeb accessibility checker and Chrome browser extension.

[25:02] Practical everyday use of AI in software development, especially GitHub Copilot, and why developers should embrace AI tools regularly to remain productive and competitive.

[31:10] Patrick encourages developers to embrace AI and keep learning, emphasizing that continuous adaptation will keep careers vibrant over the next decade.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo

Patrick Escarcega

Meserow Design

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Patrick Escarcega: Software Engineering Principles - Episode 341

Azure & DevOps Podcast

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published about a year ago

MP3•Episode home

Topics of Discussion:

[3:30] Patrick recalls the moment he transitioned from individual software developer to leading teams, highlighting the importance of understanding how software adds business value beyond just code.

[5:00] Patrick describes the joy he rediscovered in coding when starting his own company, emphasizing the delicate balance between hands-on coding and leadership responsibilities.

[7:50] The head chef and food scientist analogy.

[9:26] The importance of creating a safe environment, a “pit of success,” so developers can naturally follow best practices without feeling constrained.

[17:00] Running integration tests.

[25:02] Practical everyday use of AI in software development, especially GitHub Copilot, and why developers should embrace AI tools regularly to remain productive and competitive.

[31:10] Patrick encourages developers to embrace AI and keep learning, emphasizing that continuous adaptation will keep careers vibrant over the next decade.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo

Patrick Escarcega

Meserow Design

Engineering Practices for LLM Application Development

Want to Learn More?

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Dustin is a Principal Software Engineer at Microsoft. He works on enhancing .NET tooling and contributing to the design of the next version of C# as part of the language design team. Prior to his current role, he spent several years working as a program manager on Project Roslyn. He also contributed in a strong way to the Razor UI framework. He recently presented a session at .NET Conf 2024 on What's new in C# 13. Topics of Discussion: [4:04] Fun fact: Dustin has a jazz guitar performance degree! [3:39] The unique appeal of C#. [5:06] Evolution of C# and its features. [10:48] Impact of Async and Await on C#. [13:17] The compatibility of C# 13 with older .NET versions, specifically .NET 8. [15:04] How developers can leverage the latest C# features while still targeting older .NET frameworks, and the challenges associated with runtime support for new language capabilities. [17:04] Hacking the C# compiler. [17:28] The evolution of records from their initial introduction to the added features. [18:46] Records vs. Classes in C#. [22:51] AI’s influence on developer productivity. [25:46] The future of AI developer tools. [33:26] The need for better support for testing with large language models and other AI-driven dependencies. Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net . Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way , by Jeffrey Palermo The Five Pillars: Leadership For Effective Custom Software , by Jeffrey Palermo Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Dustin Campbell on LinkedIn .NET Conf 2024: What’s New in C#13 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.…

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Scott Nichols: Azure AI Foundry - Episode 338 40:40

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Scott Nichols is a Principal Cloud Solutions Architect at Microsoft. He works for the commercial enterprise division serving the high-tech division out of Silicon Valley. He is also the leader of the .NET and the Azure user groups in Boise, Idaho. He started his career in the IT profession in 1993 as a mainframe and web developer. Since then, he has served as a Lead Software Engineer/Solution Architect, a Software Development Engineering Manager, a Sr. Cloud Software Solution Architect, and a Sr. Enterprise Solution Architect. When not at the keyboard, he loves the outdoors hunting, camping, fishing, archery, and working in the yard. Topics of Discussion: [4:03] Generative AI’s turning point. [5:52] Bridging the AI coding gap. [6:39] Scott explains the shift in project workloads to generative AI-based projects, both customer-facing and internal. [7:25] Networking companies using AI to analyze telemetry data and create new products. [8:49] Azure AI Foundry is a web portal that allows developers to spin up Azure Compute and access over 1800 models. [13:00] Although a “Cloud Guy,” Scott values his on-prem hardware as a playground for learning and experimenting with AI tools. [15:04] The benefits of using open source or on-prem tools to start working with AI without incurring cloud costs right away. [15:40] The rapid pace of innovation. [20:41] An example of Khan Academy using AI to create an online tutor, requiring significant prompt engineering to ensure accurate responses. [27:12] AI agents monitoring AI agents. [27:59] AI’s limitations and opportunities. [31:56] Testing strategies for AI-Integrated systems. [35:37] The future of AI and how it’s a great time to be in AI. [39:35] Great advice for the next generation of developers and software engineers. Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net . Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way , by Jeffrey Palermo The Five Pillars: Leadership For Effective Custom Software , by Jeffrey Palermo Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events! Ep 116 with Scott Nichols Scott Nichols LinkedIn Scott Nichols Twitter Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.…

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Shaun Walker: Seven Years of Blazor - Episode 337 42:12

14 weeks ago42:12