292: Representing Neurodivergence in Kid’s Media, with Deborah Farmer Kris

Beautifully Complex

Do you worry that your neurodivergent child might not see themselves represented in the stories they love? If you’ve ever felt this way, this episode of Beautifully Complex is just what you need.
I'm Penny Williams, your host and fellow parent navigating the beautifully complex world of neurodivergence. In this episode, I sit down with Deborah Farmer Kris to discuss the heartfelt and eye-opening representation of neurodivergent characters in children’s media — a subject that touches deeply on both our worries and hopes for our kids.
We’re unpacking an inspiring new PBS Kids show, Carl the Collector, which beautifully portrays neurodivergent characters in ways that resonate with everyday realities. From an autistic raccoon who finds comfort in collecting, to a girl musician on the spectrum labeled "headphone girl," these characters’ journeys offer profound lessons in empathy and acceptance.
Tune in as we explore some scenes from Carl the Collector and what we can learn from them:

• Heartwarming experiences of children overcoming teasing and bullying, evolving into genuine friendships.
• Small, yet significant moments of neurodivergent behaviors — like “finger stim” or “tail stim” — that are portrayed without fanfare, normalizing differences.
• Practical ways parents can utilize these media examples to spark conversations about neurodiversity and foster a more supportive home environment.

Together, Deborah and I highlight the sensory-sensitive design of these shows, making them inclusive and affirming for all kids. We discuss how these positive portrayals can be a beacon of hope, not just for neurodivergent kids, but for all families striving for acceptance and understanding.
Get inspired by actionable tips that will help you teach empathy, recognize strengths, and foster independence. Let's work together to build an inclusive world where every child feels seen, heard, and valued.
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