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"Hair is everything" with Madeleine Gottlieb
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This week I spoke with Madeleine Gottlieb — an award-winning director, producer, screenwriter, and one of my oldest friends.
I met Mads when I was five. She was the smartest person I’d ever met, with the bluest eyes and the most commanding presence.
We were a couple of drama kids. And listening back to this conversation on a walk this week, I realised, we still are.
We talk about morning rituals, meditation, ADHD, therapy, why Mads’ word for 2025 scares her, and how cutting off all her hair at a roadside barber in Hobart turned out to be the best thing she ever did.
I loved this chat. It’s messy and raw and it made me smile. It also made me want to be braver. To be more myself.
Because over the last decade, Mads has stopped hiding. She’s learning to live, fully and honestly, as who she truly is.
I hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did.
JYK 🤍
Episode Links:
- Learn more about Madeleine Gottlieb: https://www.madeleinegottlieb.com
- Sign up to Between The Lines: https://jessicayolandakaye.substack.com
- Read the letter by Sol LeWitt and Eva Hesse: Letters of note
- Pick your one word for 2025: www.myword.is
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