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Bob Johnson is an award-winning short story writer and graduate of the lowa Writers’ Workshop. His work has been published by The Common, Philadelphia Stories, Vol. 1 Brooklyn, The Barcelona Review, and elsewhere. His story "The Continental Divide" was named Short Story of the Year in The Hudson Review.

Among other things, Bob and Carter discuss growing up with undiagnosed ADD, writing without thinking of the odds of getting published, and getting reviewed by the New York Times. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fast-paced story using a line from Sean Eads’ Seventeen Stitches.

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Making It Up with Bryan Gruley, author of Bitterfrost 48:29

21 hours ago48:29

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“I got 26 rejections, and I’d kind of given up. Then Simon & Schuster gave me a three-book deal. And I thought, oh, this is awesome—then, oh shit, I have to write the other two.” – Bryan Gruley Bryan Gruley is the award-winning, critically acclaimed author of the forthcoming thriller BITTERFROST. Gruley is also the author of the Starvation Lake trilogy, the first book of which was nominated for an Edgar Award and won Anthony, Barry, and Strand awards. A journalist for over forty years, Gruley shared in The Wall Street Journal’ s Pulitzer Prize for coverage of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and has won numerous awards for his nonfiction. Among other things, Bryan and Carter discuss designing merchandise for your novels, having “something to say” in your writing, and building suspense by creating questions and leaving them unanswered. At the end of their conversation, they make up an intense story using a line from Karin Slaughter’s This Is Why We Lied .…

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Making It Up with Ellen Birkett Morris, author of Beware the Tall Grass 40:39

8 days ago40:39

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“Writing it was like chipping away at a mountain with a pair of nail scissors.” —Ellen Birkett Morris Ellen Birkett Morris is the author of Beware the Tall Grass, winner of the Donald L. Jordan Award for Literary Excellence. She is also the author of Lost Girls: Short Stories , winner of the Pencraft Award and finalist for the Clara Johnson, IAN and Best Book awards. Her fiction has appeared in Shenandoah, Antioch Review, Saturday Evening Post, among other journals. She is a winner of the Bevel Summers Prize for short fiction, and a recipient of an Al Smith Fellowship from the Kentucky Arts Council. Among other things, Ellen and Carter discuss the transition from writing poetry to novels, supporting other writers within the writing community, and maximizing dramatic potential in individual scenes. At the end of their conversation, they make up a descriptive story using a line from Ayn Rand’s We the Living .…

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Making It Up with A.J. Finn, author of The Woman in the Window 1:07:49

15 days ago1:07:49

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“Not that my work is superior to Rear Window , but I thought—what’s more interesting than a broken leg? A broken mind.” —A.J. Finn A. J. Finn is the author of The Woman in the Window , the #1 internationally-bestselling phenomenon published in more than forty languages and adapted for the screen as a film starring Amy Adams, Gary Oldman, and Julianne Moore. His second novel, End of Story , was released in February 2024. Among other things, A. J. and Carter discuss how previously working in publishing influenced A. J.’s writing journey, reasons behind adopting a pseudonym, and A. J.’s experience being at the top of the New York Times Best Seller list. At the end of their conversation, they make up a mysterious story using a line from Jeffrey Konvitz’s The Circus of Satan .…

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Making It Up with Matt Goldman, author of The Murder Show 38:01

22 days ago38:01

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“If I'm going out to sea, I'm doing it in a ship I built, not in the piece of crap they want me to build." – Matt Goldman quoting Jerry Seinfeld Matt Goldman is a New York Times Bestselling author and Emmy Award winning television writer. He has been nominated for the Shamus Award and Nero Award. Matt's television writing credits include Seinfeld, Ellen, The New Adventures of Old Christine, and Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Among other things, Matt and Carter discuss the writing behind stand-up comedy versus the performance of it, staying true to vision and voice while writing for Seinfeld, and learning brevity. At the end of their conversation, they make up a beautiful and detailed story using a line from Cormac McCarthy’s The Passenger .…

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Making It Up with Joshua Moehling, author of A Long Time Gone 54:18

5 weeks ago54:18

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“The best part of writing that first, terrible book was realizing I could write a book. That changed everything.” – Joshua Moehling Joshua Moehling is the USA Today bestselling author of the Ben Packard series. The first book, AND THERE HE KEPT HER, was a Barnes & Noble monthly Mystery/Thriller pick and a finalist for the Lambda Literary Award for Best LGBTQ+ Mystery. His second novel, WHERE THE DEAD SLEEP, was described as “a well-paced whodunit” and “devastating” by The New York Times . Among other things, Carter and Joshua discuss authors that grew up as army brats, the utility of critique groups, and the transition from a full-time job to writing full-time. At the end of their conversation, they make up a dark story using a line from Stephen King’s Pet Sematary .…

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Making It Up with Traci Abramson, author of Royal Intrigue 44:50

6 weeks ago44:50

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"Two simple words—'what if'—can create thousands of novels." – Traci Abramson Traci Hunter Abramson was born in Arizona, and after graduating from Brigham Young University, she worked for the Central Intelligence Agency, eventually resigning in order to raise her family. She recently retired after twenty-six years coaching her local high school swim team. She has written forty-five best-selling novels and is an eight-time Whitney Award winner, including 2017 and 2019 Best Novel of the Year. Among other things, Traci and Carter discuss how Traci’s background in the CIA influenced her writing, treating writing as a job versus as a hobby, and Traci’s experiences with the CIA’s review board when writing her novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a mysterious story using a line from Lee Goldberg’s Dream Town .…

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Making It Up with Cynthia Pelayo, author of Vanishing Daughters 47:44

7 weeks ago47:44

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Cynthia Pelayo is a Bram Stoker Award winning and International Latino Book Award winning author and poet. She is the first Latina in history to win a Bram Stoker Award. Pelayo writes fairy tales that blend genre and explore concepts of grief, mourning, and cycles of violence. She is the author of Loteria, Santa Muerte, The Missing, Poems of My Night, Into the Forest and All the Way Through, Children of Chicago, Crime Scene, and more. Among other things, Cynthia and Carter discuss having a day job while writing, their approaches to social media, and writing fairy tales versus novels grounded in reality. At the end of their conversation, they make up a clever story using a line from Mindy Mejia’s A World of Hurt .…

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Making It Up with Bob Johnson, author of The Continental Divide 46:58

8 weeks ago46:58

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Bob Johnson is an award-winning short story writer and graduate of the lowa Writers’ Workshop. His work has been published by The Common , Philadelphia Stories , Vol. 1 Brooklyn , The Barcelona Review , and elsewhere. His story "The Continental Divide" was named Short Story of the Year in The Hudson Review . Among other things, Bob and Carter discuss growing up with undiagnosed ADD, writing without thinking of the odds of getting published, and getting reviewed by the New York Times. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fast-paced story using a line from Sean Eads’ Seventeen Stitches .…

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Making It Up with G.T. Karber, creator of Murdle 1:01:19

9 weeks ago1:01:19

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G.T. Karber is a mystery writer, computer programmer, and the creator of Murdle , the USA Today and #1 Sunday Times bestselling murder-mystery puzzle book series. The first two paperback volumes of Murdle were published in 2023, with the third volume published in March 2024. In 2023, Murdle was the UK Christmas #1 bestseller, making Karber the third non-British author to achieve a Christmas number one, after Dan Brown and Michelle Obama. He earned his MFA from the USC School of Cinematic Arts. Among other things, G.T. and Carter discuss what the goal of writing is and how to determine success in writing, the art of creating puzzles for the general public, and keeping commercial writing simple. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Stuart Turton’s The Last Murder at the End of the World .…

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Making It Up with Emily Carpenter, author of Burying the Honeysuckle Girls 41:44

10 weeks ago41:44

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Emily Carpenter is the critically acclaimed, bestselling author of suspense novels, Burying the Honeysuckle Girls, The Weight of Lies, and Every Single Secret. After graduating from Auburn with a Bachelor of Arts in Speech Communication, she moved to New York City. She’s worked as an actor, producer, screenwriter, and behind-the-scenes soap opera assistant for the CBS shows, As the World Turns and Guiding Light. Among other things, Emily and Carter discuss Emily’s move from the South to New York City, thinking of writing in terms of cinema, and religious representation in books and TV. At the end of their conversation, they make up a tense story using a line from Gillian Flynn’s Gone Girl .…

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Making It Up with Lori Brand, author of Bodies to Die For 45:55

11 weeks ago45:55

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Lori Brand is a lifting enthusiast, group fitness instructor, yoga teacher, and software quality engineer. She’s been a gymnast, dancer, Playboy model, and bodybuilder. Her time in the body wars trenches led to her realization that getting strong, rather than shrinking, is the way out. She’s published articles in STRONG Fitness Magazine, T-Nation, Inside Fitness Magazine , D’FYNE Fitness Magazine , and more. Bodies to Die For is her first novel. Among other things, Lori and Carter discuss how controversial discussion about body image on social media sparked the idea for Lori’s novel, analyzing editorial letters, and killing off dogs in books. At the end of their conversation, they make up an eventful story using a line from Beverley McLachlin’s Proof .…

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Making It Up with Lisa Williamson Rosenberg, author of Mirror Me 48:17

13 weeks ago48:17

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Lisa Williamson Rosenberg is an author and psychotherapist specializing in depression, complex trauma and racial identity. She is also a former ballet dancer, with essays published in Longreads, Mamalode, The Common, and more, and fiction in Literary Mama and The Piltdown Review, where she was nominated for a Pushcart Prize. She graduated from Princeton University, got her Masters from Hunter College School of Social Work, and her post-masters certification in family therapy from the Ackerman Institute. Among other things, Lisa and Carter discuss writing what you know, addressing racial themes in fiction, and unreliable narrators in Lisa’s second novel. At the end of their conversation, they make up a short story using a line from Jennifer Chase’s Count Their Graves .…

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Making It Up with Douglas Brunt, author of The Mysterious Case of Rudolf Diesel 47:47

14 weeks ago47:47

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Douglas Brunt attended The Haverford School and graduated from Duke University. He was formerly a management consultant for the information tech company, Booz Allen & Hamilton, and served as a director with Idealab. Until 2011, Brunt was CEO and president of the Florida-based security software company Authentium, Inc. His first novel, Ghosts of Manhattan , was a New York Times bestseller. Among other things, Douglas and Carter discuss Douglas’s inspiration for his own podcast, the research that goes into writing a non-fiction book, and the reality of getting a movie/TV option for your novel. At the end of their conversation they make up an unpredictable story using a line from David Baldacci’s Simple Genius .…

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Making It Up with James L'Etoile, author of River of Lies 52:39

15 weeks ago52:39

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James L’Etoile uses his 29 years behind bars as an influence in his novels, short stories, and screenplays. He is a former associate warden in a maximum-security prison, a hostage negotiator, facility captain, and director of California’s state parole system. He is a nationally recognized expert witness on prison and jail operations. He is a two-time Silver Falchion Award nominee and shortlisted for the Bill Crider Award for short fiction. Among other things, James and Carter discuss writing being a form of therapy, how writing presentence reports evolved into writing crime fiction, and working with two different publishers. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Kwei Quartey’s The Whitewashed Tombs .…

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Making It Up with Tess Gerritsen, author of The Surgeon 45:00

16 weeks ago45:00

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Internationally bestselling author Tess Gerritsen’s books have been translated into 40 languages, and more than 40 million copies have been sold around the world. She has won both the Nero Wolfe Award (for VANISH) and the Rita Award (for THE SURGEON). Time Magazine named THE SURGEON one of the best mystery/thrillers ever written. Tess's first medical thriller, Harvest , marked her debut on the New York Times bestseller list. Her novels have hit bestseller lists ever since. Among other things, Tess and Carter discuss how thrillers really aren’t about the violence, how to differentiate your characters when writing from multiple POVs, and retiring from being an author. At the end of their conversation, they make up a beautiful story using a line from Araminta Hall’s One of the Good Guys .…

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Making It Up with Andrew DeYoung, author of Stay Away From Him 58:04

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Andrew DeYoung is the author of The Temps , a speculative novel about the end of the world. He works as an editor at a children's book publishing company, and he lives with his wife and two children in the Twin Cities area in Minnesota. The Day He Never Came Home is his first domestic thriller. Stay Away From Him is coming out in July 2025. Among other things, Andrew and Carter discuss initial fears of not being a good writer, balancing writing when you have children, and embracing variety in your writing style. At the end of their conversation, they make up a random story using a line from Kurt Vonnegut’s Slaughterhouse-Five .…

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Making It Up with Sydney Leigh, author of Peril in Pink 49:21

18 weeks ago49:21

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Sydney Leigh spent several years running a seasonal business, working in the summer so she could spend cold months in cool places. Now she writes modern cozy mysteries and thinks about murder. She is a member of Sisters in Crime, International Thriller Writers, and served on the board of Crime Writers of Canada from 2018-2021. Among other things, Sydney and Carter discuss how receiving feedback motivated Sydney to continue her writing journey, struggling to find an agent after having “failed” books, and the genre of cozies versus thrillers. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fascinating story using a line from Matt Goldman’s The Murder Show .…

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Making It Up with Meredith Lyons, author of A Dagger of Lightning 1:00:12

19 weeks ago1:00:12

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Meredith Lyons collected two degrees from Louisiana State University before running away to Chicago to be an actor. In between plays, she got her black belt and made martial arts and yoga her full-time day job. She fought in the Chicago Golden Gloves, ran the Chicago Marathon, and competed for team USA in the Savate World Championships in Paris. She's a member of International Thriller Writers and Sisters in Crime. A Dagger of Lightning is her second novel. Her debut, Ghost Tamer, a paranormal suspense, was published in 2023. Among other things, Carter and Meredith discuss Meredith’s experience at her first writing conference, trusting your instincts when writing, and an author’s role in the marketing of their book. At the end of their conversation, they make up a gruesome story using a line from Stuart Turton’s The Last Murder at the End of the World .…

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Making It Up with Allyson Ryan and Patrick Zeller, audiobook narrators for Tell Me What You Did 57:05

20 weeks ago57:05

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Episode 173 of Making It Up is out and it’s a different one! Today we feature the brilliant voice artists Allyson Ryan and Patrick Zeller, who are the voices behind the audio version of Carter’s latest release TELL ME WHAT YOU DID. This audiobook is the very first release of Sourcebooks’ new division Sourcebooks Audio. Both Allyson and Patrick are award-winning narrators who have voiced a range of popular books, so you might recognize their voices in the episode. Among other things, they discuss how both Allyson and Patrick got into voice acting, how they prepare themselves for each work they narrate, and their processes for bringing books to life in a whole new way. At the end of the conversation, Carter asks them questions that they have to answer in voices of the characters from TELL ME WHAT YOU DID.…

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Making It Up with Charlotte Vassell, author of The In Crowd 47:54

21 weeks ago47:54

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Charlotte Vassell’s debut novel The Other Half was longlisted for the John Creasey (New Blood) Dagger in 2024. The In Crowd, the second in the DI Caius Beauchamp series was shortlisted for Best Novel in the 2025 Mystery Writers of America Edgar Allen Poe Awards. Charlotte studied History at the University of Liverpool and completed a Master’s in Art History at SOAS before training as an actor at Drama Studio London. Among other things, Charlotte and Carter discuss Charlotte’s background in acting, learning from your unpublished manuscripts, and having confidence in yourself to write a compelling story. At the end of their conversation, they make up an entertaining story using a line from Richard Adams’ Watership Down .…

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Making It Up with Kyle Prue, author of How To Piss Off Men 44:27

22 weeks ago44:27

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Kyle Prue is an award winning author, actor and comedian. He published his first novel The Sparks at just 18, which earned accolades from USA Today, Kirkus Reviews, and book festivals. Kyle later completed his trilogy with The Flames and The Ashes. Kyle received his BFA in Performance with a concentration in acting from the University of Michigan. He also has experience in many different aspects of creating films such as acting, writing, producing, and stunt-work. Among other things, Carter and Kyle discuss what a potential Tik Tok ban would mean for large creators, the methodology and reasoning behind Kyle’s How to Piss Off Men content series and book, and maintaining a fan base across platforms and media. At the end of their conversation, they make up a hilarious story using a line from Matt Goldman’s The Murder Show .…

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Making It Up with Chad Boudreaux, author of Homecoming Queen 48:03

23 weeks ago48:03

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Chad Boudreaux has a broad range of government, legal and corporate experience. Prior to serving as the Executive Vice President and Chief Legal Officer of the nation’s largest military shipbuilder, he served as Deputy Chief of Staff for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Boudreaux also served in several high-ranking positions at the U.S. Justice Department, where he focused most of his time on matters relating to terrorism and homeland security. His career in the government led him to write his debut novel, Scavenger Hunt . Among other things, Carter and Chad discuss how Chad uses his justice, government, and personal experiences as inspiration for his novels, writing main characters of a different gender, and the benefits of hiring PR teams. At the end of their conversation, they make up a gripping story using a line from Chad’s own novel Homecoming Queen .…

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Making It Up with Midge Raymond and John Yunkers, authors of Devils Island 43:42

24 weeks ago43:42

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Midge Raymond is the author of Floreana and My Last Continent, and the award-winning short-story collection Forgetting English. Her writing has appeared in TriQuarterly, American Literary Review, the Los Angeles Times, and others. She has taught writing at Boston University and at writing conferences around the world. She earned a certificate in private investigation from the University of Washington. John Yunker is the author of the novel The Tourist Trail; editor of the Among Animals fiction series and a nonfiction anthology, Writing for Animals. His plays have been produced at venues like the Oregon Contemporary Theatre. His teleplay Sanctuary was performed at the 2017 Compassion Arts Festival and his short stories have been published in Phoebe, Flyway, Antennae, and other journals. Among other things, Carter, Midge, and John discuss accepting each other’s ideas when cowriting, the trip to Tasmania that inspired Devils Island, and staying in the industry despite a lack of financial success. At the end of their conversation, they make up a comedic story using a line from Harlan Coben’s The Innocent.…

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Making It Up with Barbara Nickless, author of The Drowning Game 50:19

25 weeks ago50:19

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Barbara Nickless is the #1 Amazon Charts and Wall Street Journal bestselling author of the Sydney Parnell crime novels. The series has been optioned for television and has won two Colorado Book Awards and twice won the Daphne du Maurier Award of Excellence. Her standalone spy thriller was released in January 2025. Barbara’s essays and short stories have appeared in Writer’s Digest , Penguin Random House , and other markets. She also teaches creative writing to veterans at the University of Colorado in Colorado Springs. Among other things, Barbara and Carter discuss navigating PR as an author, Barbara’s research in Singapore for her espionage thriller, and transitioning from writing series to standalones. At the end of their conversation, they make up a mysterious story using a line from Cara Black’s Murder at la Villette .…

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Making It Up with Sandra Block, author of The Bachelorette Party 48:28

26 weeks ago48:28

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Sandra Block graduated from Harvard and is a practicing neurologist. Her work has been published in the Washington Post. Little Black Lies is her debut and a finalist in the International Thriller Awards, and The Girl Without a Name and The Secret Room are the other books in the Zoe Goldman series. What Happened That Night is her stand-a-lone novel, and Girl Overboard is a Young Adult thriller. The Bachelorette Party is her newest novel. Among other things, Sandra and Carter discuss defining success as an author, competing with the emergence of AI, and writing gore in their novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Stuart Turton’s The Last Murder at the End of the World.…

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Making It Up with Emily Jon Tobias, author of Monarch: Stories 50:38

27 weeks ago50:38

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Emily Jon Tobias is an award-winning writer whose work has been nominated for the Pushcart Prize, and has been featured in literary journals such as Santa Clara Review, Flying South Literary Journal, Typehouse Literary Magazine, and more. Her debut collection MONARCH: STORIES won the American Book Fest International Book Award and an International Impact Book Award. Emily is a mentor in the PEN Prison Writing Mentorship Program and holds a MFA in Writing from Pacific University Oregon. Among other things, Emily and Carter discuss publishing a book without an agent, how rejection helps to build community, and how writing a book helped Emily through early sobriety. At the end of their conversation, they make up a mysterious story using a line from Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian .…

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Making It Up with Pamela Statz, author of Thorn City 45:07

28 weeks ago45:07

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Pamela Statz grew up in Wisconsin and attended UW Madison, earning degrees in Journalism and History. She’s worked in media and advertising in San Francisco and Portland for Lucasfilm, WIRED, Nike, and Wieden+Kennedy. Thorn City is her first novel. Among other things, Pam and Carter discuss Pam’s experiences with writing classes, considering self publishing, and writing a book with multiple POVs. At the end of their conversation, they make up a funny short story using a line from Matthew McConaughey's Greenlights .…

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Making It Up with Alex Kenna, author of Burn this Night 51:01

29 weeks ago51:01

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Alex Kenna is a prosecutor, writer, and amateur painter. Before law school, Alex studied painting and art history at Penn. She also worked as a freelance art critic and culture writer. Alex’s debut novel, What Meets the Eye , was nominated for a Shamus Award for best first PI novel. Kirkus Reviews called it a “righteous, painful debut,” and Bookpage called her “a master in the making.” Among other things, Alex and Carter discuss finding creative outlets after professional schooling, navigating doubts throughout the first-draft process, and mixing genres to create a compelling story. At the end of their conversation, they make up a comedic story using a line from David Guterson’s The Country Ahead of Us, The Country Behind .…

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Making It Up with Georgia Jeffries, author of The Younger Girl 54:53

30 weeks ago54:53

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Georgia Jeffries is a writer of Emmy Award-winning drama and acclaimed noir fiction, and has been honored with multiple Writers Guild Awards, Golden Globes, and the Humanitas Prize. She worked as a journalist for American Film before writing and producing Cagney & Lacey, China Beach, and Sisters. Her short stories have appeared in national suspense anthologies, and she has also written biographical and historical profiles for HuffPost, Los Angeles Review of Books, and University of California Press. She is a professor at the USC School of Cinematic Arts, where she created the BFA Television Thesis program. Among other things, Georgia and Carter discuss optimism in the entertainment industry, teaching craft and business to MFA students, and how experience in screenwriting translates to writing novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from William Kent Krueger’s Fox Creek .…

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Making It Up with Rebecca McKenna, author of Don't Forget the Girl 48:31

31 weeks ago48:31