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Designing for Change: Sean Bengry on Trust, Tech, and Transformation
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What does real transformation look like in learning and development—and how do we design for it in a world defined by disruption?
In this episode of Catalysts, I sit down with Sean Bengry, Chief Learning Officer at Sablethorn Consulting and a global leader in educational innovation, to explore the intersection of human-centered design, technology, and organizational change.
With over 20 years of experience leading global L&D strategy, Sean shares why effective learning ecosystems don’t start with solutions—they start with curiosity, empathy, and trust.
We unpack:
- Why falling in love with the problem is more important than falling in love with the solution
- How to use the 5 Whys without triggering defensiveness
- The difference between digital transformation and cultural transformation
- What it really takes to shift mindsets inside complex organizations
- And how AI might make us more human—not less
Sean also introduces the Bengry Paradox—his belief that if you try to automate yourself out of a job in a year, you’ll never actually be without one.
If you’re leading learning strategy, navigating AI disruption, or rethinking how change actually happens inside organizations, this episode is a must-listen.
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