Of agents & agency (Changelog & Friends #86)

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Long-time JS Party panelist Amal Hussein joins Jerod to catch up on her career path, to opine on the viability agentic coding, to feel all the feelings that AI brings out of us as developers, and to share something new in her life that changes everything.

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Featuring:

• Amal Hussein – GitHub, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• Revenge of the junior developer

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Chapters

1. Let's talk! (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Heroku (00:00:38)

https://www.heroku.com/changelogpodcast

3. Big features & Friends (00:03:21)

4. Did something go wrong? (00:05:58)

5. Amal's journey (00:10:06)

6. Her time at Stripe (00:14:15)

7. Her time at Cisco (00:16:52)

8. Amal the disruptor (00:19:21)

9. Silent sacking (00:21:58)

10. Sponsor: Depot (00:25:01)

https://depot.dev

11. Where she works now (00:27:22)

12. How she found Istari (00:35:24)

13. Moving to a different platform (00:38:47)

14. Istari agents (00:40:56)

15. Every deployment target (00:44:35)

16. Do agents work today? (00:46:05)

17. Agentic coding (00:49:55)

18. Sponsor: Retool (00:51:13)

https://retool.com/changelog

19. Amal's AI feelings journey (00:54:14)

20. Jerod's agentic coding opinion (00:56:53)

21. Humans out of the loop? (01:01:02)

22. Jerod is basic (01:02:22)

23. Software is hard tho (01:03:39)

24. Cheering the demise of engineers (01:05:37)

25. We've been a bottleneck (01:09:41)

26. Vibe coding gold rush (01:14:13)

27. Revenge of the juniors (01:15:09)

28. A basic analogy (01:19:54)

29. It's just a job (01:20:53)

30. Amal had a baby! (01:22:21)

31. Scaling out (01:28:14)

32. Don't wait (01:29:45)

33. Why wait? (01:33:07)

34. Bye, friends (01:36:25)

35. Closing thoughts (01:36:51)