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AI is reshaping cybersecurity as we know it. From sophisticated AI-driven phishing attacks to the amplified risk of insider threats using tools like Copilot, the landscape is shifting at an unprecedented pace. How can security leaders and practitioners adapt?
Join Ashish Rajan and Matthew Radolec (Varonis) as they explore the critical challenges and opportunities AI presents. Learn why 86% of attacks involve credential misuse and how AI agents are making it easier than ever for non-technical insiders to exfiltrate data.
In this episode, you'll learn about:
- The "Blast Radius": How AI tools can dramatically increase data exposure.
- From "Breaking In" to "Logging In": The dominance of credential-based attacks.
- AI-Powered Social Engineering: The rise of "conversational bait".
- Copilot Use Cases & "Aha!" Moments
- Data Integrity in AI: The critical, overlooked pillar of AI security.
- The Enduring Importance of Access Management in an AI World.
- Transforming Security Operations: AI for incident response, playbooks, and forensics.
Guest Socials - Matt's Linkedin
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:
If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast
Questions asked:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:57) New Threat Landscape in Cloud & AI
(08:08) Use cases for regulated industries
(10:03) Impact of Agentic AI in the cybersecurity space
(12:22) Blind spots of going into AI
(18:06) Shared responsibility for LLM providers
(20:56) Lifting up security programs for AI
(27:82) How is incident response changing with AI?
(29:30) Cybersecurity areas that will be most impacted by AI
(34:43) The Fun Section
Thank you to our episode sponsor Varonis
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AI is reshaping cybersecurity as we know it. From sophisticated AI-driven phishing attacks to the amplified risk of insider threats using tools like Copilot, the landscape is shifting at an unprecedented pace. How can security leaders and practitioners adapt?
Join Ashish Rajan and Matthew Radolec (Varonis) as they explore the critical challenges and opportunities AI presents. Learn why 86% of attacks involve credential misuse and how AI agents are making it easier than ever for non-technical insiders to exfiltrate data.
In this episode, you'll learn about:
- The "Blast Radius": How AI tools can dramatically increase data exposure.
- From "Breaking In" to "Logging In": The dominance of credential-based attacks.
- AI-Powered Social Engineering: The rise of "conversational bait".
- Copilot Use Cases & "Aha!" Moments
- Data Integrity in AI: The critical, overlooked pillar of AI security.
- The Enduring Importance of Access Management in an AI World.
- Transforming Security Operations: AI for incident response, playbooks, and forensics.
Guest Socials - Matt's Linkedin
Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod
If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels:
If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast
Questions asked:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:57) New Threat Landscape in Cloud & AI
(08:08) Use cases for regulated industries
(10:03) Impact of Agentic AI in the cybersecurity space
(12:22) Blind spots of going into AI
(18:06) Shared responsibility for LLM providers
(20:56) Lifting up security programs for AI
(27:82) How is incident response changing with AI?
(29:30) Cybersecurity areas that will be most impacted by AI
(34:43) The Fun Section
Thank you to our episode sponsor Varonis
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1 How BT Tackled 180 Years of Legacy to Build a Passwordless Future 19:51
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow do you modernize security in a 180-year-old company that operates critical national infrastructure? What does it look like when you discover tens or even hundreds of thousands of credentials hidden across your estate? In this episode, we sit down with Christian Schwarz, Security Director for Network Services at BT Group , recorded at HashiDays London. Christian shares the immense challenge and strategic approach to standardizing secret management across one of the world's oldest telecommunication companies. He details BT's journey away from the "moat and a castle" security model towards a future with no passwords for developers , reducing friction and enhancing security by design. Guest Socials - Christian's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) - Why Standardizing Secrets is a Challenge (02:24) - Introducing Christian Schwarz & His Role at BT (05:50) - Beyond the "Castle & Moat": A New Approach to Security (07:59) - The Challenge of Securing a 180-Year-Old Company (10:04) - The Power of Storytelling and Discovering Hidden Credentials (11:59) - The Starting Point: Threat Modeling Your Critical Infrastructure (13:48) - The Upside of Standardization: Reducing Cognitive Load for Teams (16:08) - Fun Questions: Cycling, Innovation, and Favorite Cuisines Thank you to our episode sponsor HashiCorp…
1 Why Security Can Be Stricter: A Zero Trust Approach to AppSec with AI 45:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIs AI making application security easier or harder? We spoke to Amit Chita, Field CTO at Mend.io , the rise of AI agents in the Software Development Lifecycle (SDLC) presents a unique opportunity for security teams to be stricter than ever before. As developers increasingly use AI agents and integrate LLMs into applications, the attack surface is evolving in ways traditional security can't handle. The only way forward is a Zero Trust approach to your own AI models Join Ashish Rajan and Amit Chita as they discuss the new threats introduced by AI and how to build a resilient security program for this new era. Guest Socials - Amit's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Intro: The New Era of AI-Powered AppSec(03:10) Meet Amit Chita: From Founder to Field CTO at Mend.io(03:47) Defining AI-Powered Applications in 2025(05:02) AI-Native vs. AI-Powered: What's the Real Difference?(06:05) How AI is Radically Changing the SDLC: Speed, Scale, and Stricter Security(16:30) The Hidden Risk: Navigating AI Model & Data Licensing Chaos(20:50) SMB vs. Enterprise: Why Their AI Security Problems Are Different(23:00) Why Traditional Security Testing Fails Against AI Threats(26:03) Do You Need to Update Your Entire Security Program for AI?(29:14) The New DevSecOps: Keeping Developers Happy in the Age of AI(31:26) Real AI Threats: Malicious Packages & Indirect Prompt Injection(35:16) Is Regulation Coming for AI? A Look at the Current Landscape(38:00) The AI Security Toolbox: To Build or To Buy?(41:41) Fun Questions: Amit’s Proudest Moment & Favorite Restaurant Thank you to our episode sponsor Mend.io…
1 Guide to Hybrid Cloud & Bare Metal Secret Management 32:23
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIs your organization struggling with secret management across bare metal, hybrid, and multi-cloud environments? Standard cloud-native tools often fall short when you need a single, standardized solution that bridges all your infrastructure. Dan Popescu, Senior Site Reliability Engineer at Booking.com joins us to share how they built a cloud-agnostic secret management strategy using HashiCorp Vault. We dive deep into the technical challenges of providing identity to bare metal machines, rotating dynamic secrets in legacy and modern applications, and why a central "broker" for authentication is critical for security at scale. Guest Socials - Dan 's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction(02:13) Dan's Background: From Cloud (AWS, GCP) to Bare Metal(03:06) The Core Challenges: Secret Exposure, Rotation & Access Control(04:45) Why Cloud-Native Fails at Scale: The Cost of 500k Requests/Min(07:32) What is a "Secret"? (It's More Than Just Passwords)(09:12) The Secret Lifecycle: Rotation, Revocation & Caching Issues(10:33) Securing Bare Metal: The Unique Challenge of On-Prem Secrets(15:44) Kubernetes & Container Secrets: Sidecars vs. Operators(18:36) The Pain of Moving from Static to Dynamic Secrets(20:40) How Do Machines Get an Identity? (Cloud IAM vs. Bare Metal)(24:28) A Practical Roadmap: Where to Start Standardizing Secrets(26:53) Key Learnings & Technical Pitfalls to Avoid(28:59) The Fun Section…
1 "Escape-Proof" Cloud: How Block built an Automated Approach to Egress Control 40:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedMany organizations focus on keeping attackers out, but what happens when one gets in? We spoke to Ramesh Ramani, Staff Security Engineer at Block about the real challenge, which is preventing them from leaving with your data. In this episode, Ramesh details the innovative system his team built to automate egress access control at scale, moving beyond traditional, inefficient methods. Ramesh explains how by establishing "sources of truth" for both internal applications and external partners, they created a centralized governance model. This system uses SPIFFE IDs to understand application identity, validates data-sharing requests against partner approvals, and provides a seamless, self-service experience for developers. Discover how this approach not only enhances security by preventing unauthorized data exfiltration but also improves incident response, allowing them to instantly revoke access to compromised third-party domains. Guest Socials - Ramesh's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) - Introduction(00:55) - Ramesh Ramani's Journey: From Network Engineer to Cloud Security at Block(02:03) - The "Trapped Thief" Analogy: Why Egress Is a Critical, Overlooked Problem(04:07) - The Trigger for Automation: Why Traditional Egress Security Doesn't Scale(07:36) - The Secret Sauce: Using SPIFFE IDs for Application Identity Across Any Cloud(14:42) - How It Works: Requesting Access & Denying Leaks to Partners like ChatGPT(30:39) - The Foundation: Why You Must Start with a "Source of Truth" for Apps & Partners(31:23) - Incident Response: Instantly Cutting Off Access When a Partner is Compromised(33:58) - Rollout Strategy: How to Implement Egress Controls Without Burdening Other Teams(37:35) - The Fun Section: Tech, Family, RPGs, and the Best Vegetarian Ramen Resources discussed during the episode: BSidesSF 2025 - Centralizing Egress Access Controls Across a Hybrid Environment.…
1 Prioritizing Cloud Security: How to Decide What to Protect First 41:08
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhen you can't protect everything at once, how do you decide what matters most? This episode tackles the core challenge of security prioritization. Geet Pradhan, Senior Security Engineer at Lime joins the podcast to share his framework for building a SecOps plan when you're a small team. Learn why his team made AWS logs their number one priority , how to leverage compliance requirements to guide your strategy , and why he advises starting with a small list of 1-5 critical applications instead of 35. Tune in for a conversation about strategic security for the modern cloud environment. Guest Socials - Geet's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (00:32) Meet Geet Pradhan: Senior Security Engineer at Lime (01:17) What is Detection & Response in 2025? (04:35) Defining the Cloud Detection & Response Pipeline (09:42) Why SIEM-Only Alerts Don't Work for Remote Teams (12:02) How to Choose Your First Log Sources (17:00) Building Security Culture: How to Not Be "The Police" (22:45) Where to Find Pre-Built Detection Rules & Alerts (28:38) On-Prem vs. Cloud: Why The Threat Model Is Different (36:53) Fun Questions Resources spoken about during the interview: Geet's BSides SF Talk Nate Lee - Power of Persuasion…
1 Migrating from “Tick Box" Compliance to Automating GRC in a Multi-Cloud World 28:48
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn many organizations, security exception management is a manual process, often treated as a simple compliance checkbox. While necessary, this approach can lead to unmonitored configurations that drift from their approved state, creating inconsistencies in an organization's security posture over time. How can teams evolve this process to support modern development without compromising on security? In this episode, Ashish Rajan sits down with security expert Santosh Bompally, Cloud Security Engineering Team Lead at Humana to discuss a practical framework for automating exception management. Drawing on his journey from a young tech enthusiast to a security leader at Humana, Santosh explains how to transform this process from a manual task into a scalable, continuously monitored system that enables developer velocity. Learn how to build a robust program from the ground up, starting with establishing a security baseline and leveraging policy-as-code, certified components, and continuous monitoring to create a consistent and secure cloud environment. Guest Socials - Santosh's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction(00:39) From Young Hacker to Cybersecurity Pro(02:14) The "Tick Box" Problem with Exception Management(03:17) Exposing Your Threat Landscape: The Risk of Not Automating(05:43) Where Do You Even Start? The First Steps(08:26) VMs vs Containers vs Serverless: Is It Different?(11:15) Building Your Program: Start with a Security Baseline(14:44) What Standard to Follow? (CIS, PCI, HIPAA)(17:20) The Lifecycle of a Control: When Should You Retire One?(19:42) The 3 Levels of Security Automation Maturity(23:25) Do You Need to Be a Coder for GRC Automation?(26:16) Fun Questions: Home Automation, Family & Food…
1 Using AI Agents to Solve Cloud Vulnerability Overload 38:09
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode, Ashish Rajan talks with Harry Wetherald , Co-Founder & CEO of Maze , about the reality of modern vulnerability management. They explore why current tools like CNAPPs can generate up to 90% false positives and how AI agents can provide a real solution by thinking like a security engineer to identify genuine, exploitable threats. Learn about the challenges of building your own AI solutions and how this new approach can eliminate noise and build trust between security and engineering team Guest Socials - Harry's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction(02:27) Who is Harry Wetherald?(04:45) The "Wall of Red": Why Security Tools Create 90% False Positives(06:21) The Mission: Solving Vulnerability Overload with AI(10:11) How an AI Agent Investigates a Vulnerability(16:09) The Hard Reality of Building Your Own AI Solution(18:14) Building for a Future of Evolving AI Models(20:00) What is the Role of an MCP (AI Copilot)?(27:31) Building AI Agents for Cloud Security(31:25) "Think Like a Hacker": Asking AI to Red Team Your Cloud(33:04) How AI Will Shape Security Programs in 2025 & Beyond(36:20) Fun Questions with Harry Thank you Maze for sponsoring this episode.…
1 Adapting to New Threats, Copilot Risks & The Future of Data (Feat. Matthew Radolec, Varonis) 39:31
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAI is reshaping cybersecurity as we know it. From sophisticated AI-driven phishing attacks to the amplified risk of insider threats using tools like Copilot, the landscape is shifting at an unprecedented pace. How can security leaders and practitioners adapt? Join Ashish Rajan and Matthew Radolec (Varonis) as they explore the critical challenges and opportunities AI presents. Learn why 86% of attacks involve credential misuse and how AI agents are making it easier than ever for non-technical insiders to exfiltrate data. In this episode, you'll learn about: The "Blast Radius": How AI tools can dramatically increase data exposure. From "Breaking In" to "Logging In": The dominance of credential-based attacks. AI-Powered Social Engineering: The rise of "conversational bait". Copilot Use Cases & "Aha!" Moments Data Integrity in AI: The critical, overlooked pillar of AI security. The Enduring Importance of Access Management in an AI World. Transforming Security Operations: AI for incident response, playbooks, and forensics. Guest Socials - Matt's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (01:57) New Threat Landscape in Cloud & AI (08:08) Use cases for regulated industries (10:03) Impact of Agentic AI in the cybersecurity space (12:22) Blind spots of going into AI (18:06) Shared responsibility for LLM providers (20:56) Lifting up security programs for AI (27:82) How is incident response changing with AI? (29:30) Cybersecurity areas that will be most impacted by AI (34:43) The Fun Section Thank you to our episode sponsor Varonis…
Is Artificial Intelligence the ultimate security dragon, we need to slay, or a powerful ally we must train? Recorded LIVE at BSidesSF, this special episode dives headfirst into the most pressing debates around AI security. Join host Ashish Rajan as he navigates the complex landscape of AI threats and opportunities with two leading experts: Jackie Bow (Anthropic): Championing the "How to Train Your Dragon" approach, Jackie reveals how we can leverage AI, and even its 'hallucinations,' for advanced threat detection, response, and creative security solutions. Kane Narraway (Canva): Taking the "Knight/Wizard" stance, Kane illuminates the critical challenges in securing AI systems, understanding the new layers of risk, and the complexities of AI threat modeling. 🔥 In this episode, we tackle the tough questions: Is the hype around past 'AI-powered' security justified, or was it "hot garbage"? How can you build effective threat models when AI introduces new, complex failure points? What are the real risks and challenges when implementing AI in production? Can AI tools like 'vibe coding' democratize security, or do they risk deskilling professionals? How can defenders possibly keep pace with AI-driven attacks without fully embracing AI themselves? Exploring the future of AI in both offensive and defensive cybersecurity. Guest Socials - Jackie's Linkedin + Kane's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Intro: Slaying or Training the AI Dragon at BSidesSF? (03:15) Meet Jackie Bow (Anthropic): Training AI for Security Defense (03:41) Meet Kane Narraway (Canva): Securing AI Systems & Facing Risks (04:51) Was Traditional Security Ops "Hot Garbage"? Setting the Scene (06:32) The Real Risks: What AI Brings to Your Organisation (07:27) AI in Action: Leveraging AI for Threat Detection & Response (08:37) AI Hallucinations: Bug, Feature, or Security Blind Spot? (09:54) Threat Modeling AI: The Core Challenges & Learnings (13:29) Getting Started: Practical AI Threat Detection First Steps (17:56) AI & Cloud: Integrating AI into Your Existing Environments (25:38) AI vs. Traditional: Is Threat Modeling Different Now? (29:52) Your First Step: Where to Begin with AI Threat Modeling? (33:17) Fun Questions & Final Thoughts on the Future of AI Security…
1 CYBERSECURITY for AI: The New Threat Landscape & How Do We Secure It? 40:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs Artificial Intelligence reshapes our world, understanding the new threat landscape and how to secure AI-driven systems is more crucial than ever. We spoke to Ankur Shah , Co-Founder and CEO of Straiker about navigating this rapidly evolving frontier. In this episode, we unpack the complexities of securing AI, from the fundamental shifts in application architecture to the emerging attack vectors. Discover why Ankur believes "you can only secure AI with AI" and how organizations can prepare for a future where "your imagination is the new limit," but so too are the potential vulnerabilities. Guest Socials - Ankur's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (00:30) Meet Ankur Shah (CEO, Straiker) (01:54) Current AI Deployments in Organizations (Copilots & Agents) (04:48) AI vs. Traditional Security: Why Old Methods Fail for AI Apps (07:07) AI Application Types: Native, Immigrant & Explorer Explained (10:49) AI's Impact on the Evolving Cyber Threat Landscape (17:34) Ankur Shah on Core AI Security Principles (Visibility, Governance, Guardrails) (22:26) The AI Security Vendor Landscape (Acquisitions & Startups) (24:20) Current AI Security Practices in Organizations: What's Working? (25:42) AI Security & Hyperscalers (AWS, Azure, Google Cloud): Pros & Cons (26:56) What is AI Inference? Explained for Cybersecurity Pros (33:51) Overlooked AI Attack Surfaces: Hidden Risks in AI Security (35:12) How to Uplift Your Security Program for AI (37:47) Rapid Fire: Fun Questions with Ankur Shah Thank you to this episode's sponsor - Straiker.ai…
1 Cloud Security Evolved: From CNAPP to AI Threats 19:16
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThe world of cloud security is evolving at breakneck speed. Are traditional tools and strategies enough to combat the sophisticated threats of tomorrow? In this episode, we're joined by Elad Koren, Vice President of Product Management from Palo Alto Networks, to explore the dynamic journey of cloud security. Elad shares his insights on how the landscape has shifted, moving beyond the era of CSPM and CNAPP as standalone solutions. We delve into why a cloud-aware Security Operations Center (SOC) is no longer a luxury but a necessity, and what "runtime security" truly means in today's complex, multi-cloud environments. The conversation also tackles the double-edged sword of Artificial Intelligence, how it’s empowering both attackers with new capabilities and defenders with advanced tools. Elad discusses the critical considerations for organizations undergoing digital transformation, the importance of AI governance, and provides actionable advice for companies at all stages of their cloud adoption journey, from securing code from day one to building holistic visibility across their entire infrastructure. Guest Socials - Elad's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (01:38) How has Cloud Security Evolved? (04:21) Why CNAPP is not enough anymore? (07:13) What is runtime security? (07:54) Impact of AI on Cloud Security (11:41) What to include in your cybersecurity program in 2025? (16:47) The Fun Section Thank you to this episode's sponsor - PaloAlto Networks Resources discussed during the episode: PaloAlto Networks RSAC Announcement 1 PaloAlto Networks RSAC Announcement 2…
1 RSA Conference 2025 Recap: Top Themes, Actionable Insights & Future Trends 53:52
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedDive deep into the key takeaways from RSA Conference 2025 with our expert panel! Join Ashish Rajan, James Berthoty, Chris Hughes, Tanya Janca, and Francis Odum as they dissect the biggest trends, surprises, and "hot takes" from one of the world's largest cybersecurity events. In this episode, we cover: Initial reactions and the sheer scale of RSA Conference 2025. Major themes: AI's impact on cybersecurity, especially AppSec, vendor consolidation, the evolution of runtime security, and more. The rise of AI-native applications and how they're reshaping the landscape. Deep dives into Application Security (AppSec), secure coding with AI, and the future of vulnerability management. Understanding runtime security beyond DAST and its critical role. Unexpected insights and surprising takeaways from the conference floor. Guests include: Chris Hughes – CEO at Aquia & host of Resilient Cyber James Berthoty – Cloud and AppSec engineer, known for sharp vendor analysis and engineering-first content and Latio Tech Tanya Janca – Founder of She Hacks Purple Francis Odum – Founder of S oftware Analyst Cyber Research Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction: Unpacking the RSA Conference 2025 (02:20) Meet the Experts: Panelist Introductions (03:39) RSAC First Impressions: Scale, Excitement & Attendee Numbers (07:52) Top Themes from RSA Conference 2025 (16:01) AI's Evolution: Native Applications & AppSec's Transformation (33:30) Demystifying Runtime Security (Beyond DAST) (40:23) RSA Surprises & Unexpected Takeaways…
1 Mindset: Modern SOC Strategies for Cloud & Kubernetes (Ft Sergej Epp. Ex-Deutsche Bank) 35:01
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedJoin Ashish Rajan in this episodeas he dives deep into the evolving world of cloud security with Sergej Epp, formerly of Deutsche Bank and Palo Alto Networks, now with Sysdig. Discover why traditional security approaches fall short in today's dynamic cloud-native environments, where workloads resemble swarms of drones rather than predictable trains. Sergej explains the critical shift from basic posture management (CSPM/CNAPP) towards runtime security, emphasizing the need for an "assume breach" mindset. Learn about the staggering reality that over 60% of containers now live for less than a minute and the immense challenges this poses for detection, incident response, and forensics. This episode covers: The evolution from traditional security to cloud-native and runtime security. Why CNAPP/CSPM is like a map, but runtime security is the essential radar. The complexities of modern incident response with ephemeral workloads. Key strategies for Security Operations Centers (SOC) adapting to the cloud. The importance of visibility, data collection, and tools for hybrid and even air-gapped environments. How AI is starting to aid security operations and forensics. Guest Socials: Sergej Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction: Cloud Security & The One-Minute Container Problem (01:31) Meet Sergej Epp: 20+ Years in Cybersecurity (Deutsche Bank, Palo Alto, Sysdig) (02:44) What is Cloud Native Today? From Train Stations to Airports with Drones (05:34) Runtime Security Explained: Why It's Crucial Now (11:05) The Evolution of Cloud Security: Beyond Basic Posture Management (13:49) Incident Response Evolution: Tackling One-Minute Containers (18:34) Who Needs Runtime Security? Platform Engineers, SOC Teams & More (21:01) Runtime Security as a Platform: Beyond Detection to Prevention & Insights (24:45) Cloud Security Program Maturity: From On-Prem to Cloud Native SOC (29:20) AI in SOC Operations: Speeding Up Forensics & Context…
1 Scaling Container Security Without Slowing Developers 28:13
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAre you struggling to implement robust container security at scale without creating friction with your development teams? In this episode, host Ashish Rajan sits down with Cailyn Edwards, Co-Chair of Kubernetes SIG Security and Senior Security Engineer, for a masterclass in practical container security. This episode was recorded LIVE at KubeCon EU, London 2025. In this episode, you'll learn about: Automating Security Effectively: Moving beyond basic vulnerability scanning to implement comprehensive automation Bridging the Security-Developer Gap: Strategies for educating developers, building trust, fostering collaboration, and understanding developer use cases instead of just imposing rules. The "Shift Down" Philosophy: Why simply "Shifting Left" isn't enough, and how security teams can proactively provide secure foundations, essentially "Shifting Down." Leveraging Open Source Tools: Practical discussion around tools like Trivy, Kubeaudit, Dependabot, RenovateBot, TruffleHog, Kube-bench, OPA, and more. The Power of Immutable Infrastructure: Exploring the benefits of using minimal, immutable images to drastically reduce patching efforts and enhance security posture. Understanding Real Risks: Discussing the dangers lurking in default configurations and easily exposed APIs/ports in container environments. Getting Leadership Buy-In: The importance of aligning security initiatives with business goals and securing support from leadership. Guest Socials: Cailyn's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Intro: Container Security at Scale (01:56) Meet Cailyn Edwards: Kubernetes SIG Security Co-Chair (03:34) Why Container Security Matters: Risks & Exposures Explained (06:21) Automating Container Security: From Scans to Admission Controls (12:19) Essential Container Security Tools (Trivy, OPA, Chainguard & More) (19:35) Overcoming DevSecOps Challenges: Working with Developers (21:31) Proactive Security: Shifting Down, Not Just Left (25:24) Fun Questions with Cailyn Resources spoken about during the interview: Cailyn's talk at KubeCon EU 2025…
1 How Attackers Stay Hidden Inside Your Azure Cloud 35:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode, Ashish sits down with Christian Philipov, Principal Security Consultant at WithSecure, to explore the stealth tactics threat actors are using in Azure and why many of these go undetected. Christian breaks down the lesser-known APIs like Ibiza and PIM, how Microsoft Graph differs from legacy APIs, and what this means for defenders. The 3 common ways attackers stay stealthy in Azure Why read-only enumeration activity often isn’t logged What detection is possible and how to improve it How conditional access and logging configuration can help defenders Why understanding Microsoft Graph matters for security ops Guest Socials: Christian's Linkedin Podcast Twitter - @CloudSecPod If you want to watch videos of this LIVE STREAMED episode and past episodes - Check out our other Cloud Security Social Channels: - Cloud Security Podcast- Youtube - Cloud Security Newsletter - Cloud Security BootCamp If you are interested in AI Cybersecurity, you can check out our sister podcast - AI Cybersecurity Podcast Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction (02:09) A bit about Christian (02:39) What is considered stealthy in Azure? (04:39) Which services are stealthy in Azure? (06:25) PIM and Ibiza API (12:53) The role of Defender for Cloud (18:04) Does the Stealthy API approach scale? (19:26) Preventing Stealthy API attacks (21:49) Best Practices for Prevention in Azure (25:47) Behaviour Analysis in Azure (29:31) The Fun Section Resources spoken about during the interview: Christian's fwd:cloudsec talk - Staying Sneaky in Microsoft Azure Christian's Disobey Talk…
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