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Dancing with Uncertainty: Creativity, Leadership & the Power of Art | Margaret Heffernan
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Why the future belongs to the imaginative — what leaders can learn from art.
In this rich and provocative conversation, Tracey Camilleri welcomes best-selling author, entrepreneur, and professor Margaret Heffernan to talk about her latest book, Embracing Uncertainty: How Writers, Musicians, and Artists Thrive in an Unpredictable World.
Together they explore how creativity — long undervalued in our data-obsessed, STEM-centric culture — might just be the most essential leadership skill of all. From the dangers of over-measuring what matters, to what leaders can learn from poets, painters, and protest artists, Margaret makes a compelling case for rediscovering the human capacity for imagination and curiosity in uncertain times.
Expect insights on:
• Why “efficiency” may be your organisation’s biggest weakness
• What drawing someone’s face can teach you about leadership
• How to stop being a “dancing bear” in your own life
• The deep social intelligence embedded in the arts
• And why we should beware the seductive illusion of certainty
This is a conversation about reclaiming our agency, attention, and creative courage — in work, in leadership, and in life.
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The Collective Intelligence podcast is hosted by Tracey Camilleri and Sam Rockey, founders and directors of Thompson Harrison.
Contact details in the Links section below. Embracing Uncertainty book · Margaret Heffernan's website · Website · LinkedIn · Follow on Instagram · Connect with Tracey Camilleri on LinkedIn · Connect with Sam Rockey on LinkedIn
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In this rich and provocative conversation, Tracey Camilleri welcomes best-selling author, entrepreneur, and professor Margaret Heffernan to talk about her latest book, Embracing Uncertainty: How Writers, Musicians, and Artists Thrive in an Unpredictable World.
Together they explore how creativity — long undervalued in our data-obsessed, STEM-centric culture — might just be the most essential leadership skill of all. From the dangers of over-measuring what matters, to what leaders can learn from poets, painters, and protest artists, Margaret makes a compelling case for rediscovering the human capacity for imagination and curiosity in uncertain times.
Expect insights on:
• Why “efficiency” may be your organisation’s biggest weakness
• What drawing someone’s face can teach you about leadership
• How to stop being a “dancing bear” in your own life
• The deep social intelligence embedded in the arts
• And why we should beware the seductive illusion of certainty
This is a conversation about reclaiming our agency, attention, and creative courage — in work, in leadership, and in life.
******
The Collective Intelligence podcast is hosted by Tracey Camilleri and Sam Rockey, founders and directors of Thompson Harrison.
Contact details in the Links section below. Embracing Uncertainty book · Margaret Heffernan's website · Website · LinkedIn · Follow on Instagram · Connect with Tracey Camilleri on LinkedIn · Connect with Sam Rockey on LinkedIn
Chapters
1. The Spark for Embracing Uncertainty (00:01:06)
2. The Value of Immeasurable Skills in Leadership (00:02:49)
3. The Overemphasis on Economics and Data (00:04:07)
4. Relevance of Liberal Arts and Human Competencies (00:07:41)
5. The Importance of Attention and Observation (00:10:27)
6. Writing as a Tool for Changing Thought (00:14:27)
7. The Impact of Screens on Thinking (00:17:16)
8. The Efficiency of Human Connection and Creativity (00:21:30)
9. Artists as Advisors and Truth Tellers (00:23:28)
10. The Social Benefits of Art and Collective Expression (00:26:46)
11. Embracing Uncertainty and Opportunity (00:33:23)
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