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Matt Mattson, the "starter" of both the BETWEEN community and Today I Pray For You project on Instagram and Facebook, is our guest this week. Matt dreams of creating a global relational religious movement. Matt believes “church” (and faith exploration) can and should happen in our conversations with others.
He's passionate that the space between us is sacred, a holy space. The way we fill that space — the choices about the way we interact with people — is our faith-come-to-life. He wants your coffee shop chats, your small talk in line at the grocery store, your social media interactions, and your dinner table conversations to feel sacred and holy. Because they are. God (however you understand that idea) lives in the space between us.
Matt has some a fun professional background that he's really proud of (Learn more about him here) and lives in Colorado with his wife and two daughters. Matt believes so deeply that he was put on this planet to help people gather together to talk about the important stuff of life.
Matt's not a pastor or a guru or a priest. Just a person. Like you.
In this episode, Matt takes us all on the ride of our lives with his story-telling, his passion, and especially his vulnerability. We find out four core principles that he embodies both at work and especially at home with his family.
We both were riveted as Matt spoke and believe you will be too. Get ready for a good one!
You can find Matt's passion projects at the following:
Instagram: @todayiprayforyou
Facebook: Today I Pray for You
Website: Between.Church
Facebook Group: BETWEEN Church
YouTube: @betweenchurch
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The Space Between - Matt Mattson

Deconstructing Mamas

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1. The Space Between - Matt Mattson (00:00:00)

2. [Ad] Friar Time (00:20:23)

3. (Cont.) The Space Between - Matt Mattson (00:20:59)

88 episodes

#Religion #Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz #Esther Joy Goetz #Lizz Enns Petters #Parenting

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Recovering Sex - the Sexvangelicals (Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson) 1:16:05

6 days ago1:16:05

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“There's a misconception that once you leave religion, you magically learn everything you missed about relationships and sex” - The Sexvangelicals Our episode this week is with Jeremiah Gibson and Julia Postema, sex and relationship therapists, coaching and podcast hosts specializing in recovery from high-control religion as it relates to relationships and sexual intimacy. Our conversation is full of candor, surprises and mic-drop moments over and over again. We were blown away by one thing that will leave you wanting more. We chat through these questions: 1. Even after all these years many of us still tense at that word. How do we help foster curiosity around sexuality in our children as opposed to fear and shame? 2. How do we navigate the grief or trauma that can get activated for us as parents when talking about sexuality differently? 3. How do we lead our children through their questions when we are still working out our own thoughts and feelings on sexuality and sexual identity? 4. Are there tangible ways that we can heal our own wounds around sex while navigating all this with our own kids? 5. What do we do when we disagree with our kids’ choices around sex? How can we support their journey without shame? 6. How important is maintaining our own sex life in the midst of parenting? How can we do this when it feels like the last thing on the list? Get ready to have your heart and mind and hopefully body open to new possibilities when it comes to healthy sex. There was one big surprising idea where we can all start no matter where we are in our relationship with this tricky and important subject. If you have these questions: How do we rebuild healthy, pleasurable, intimate relationships? How do we give ourselves permission to be sexual people? This is the podcast episode for you!! You can find the Jeremiah and Julia, the Sexvangelicals here: Website: www.sexvangelicals.com Instagram: @sexvangelicals Facebook: Sexvangelicals Podcast: Sexvangelicals Substack: substack.com/@sexvangelicals…

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Blessed are the Women - Claire K. McKeever-Burgett 54:47

13 days ago54:47

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''Without women we don’t have Jesus. We don’t have Christianity. We don’t have any of it.” (Claire K. McKeever-Burgett) Our episode this week is with Claire K. McKeever-Burgett, mom of two and author of Blessed are the Women: Naming and Reclaiming Women's Stories from the Gospels. Our conversation is full of wisdom, both fierce and tender, and the reclamation of the divine feminine in all her forms. We chat through these questions: 1. Were there any particular women in the Bible whose stories deeply impacted you personally? If so, why? 2. What was the most surprising thing you learned while researching the stories of these women? 3. The Bible was written in a time and culture that was largely patriarchal. How did you navigate the cultural context while writing about these women’s stories? 4. What do you hope is the lasting impact of your work on the way people view women in the Bible? How have you and might we incorporate that into our parenting? 5. If you were sitting at a table with your kids and you knew for sure they would take one message with them on their life’s journey, what poem of yours would you read them? Get ready to sob your eyes out when you hear the answer to the last question. And also get ready to have your soul healed on the spot. If you want to feel understood and empowered as a woman or if you want to understand and empower women, this is the episode for you. You can find Claire here: Website: www.clairemckeeverburgett.com Instagram: @clairemckeeverburgett…

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Rebellion or Integrity? - Jamin Coller 58:42

20 days ago58:42

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'''Diligent study is precisely what got us here." Jamin Coller Our episode this week is with Jamin Coller, dad of six, podcaster and author of Dear Evangelicals . Our conversation is passionate, funny and so very eye-opening. We chat through these questions: 1. Your book, Dear Evangelicals , frames deconstruction not as rebellion, but as a painful act of integrity after "stumbling upon information we didn't want." How can parents reframe their children's deconstruction as integrity, not betrayal? How can we help both deconstructionists and their former communities reframe this process as an act of integrity rather than betrayal — especially in the context of parenting? 2. You write “We believed it when we were told all questions were welcomed.” What impact does it have on a child’s development when questions are only welcome until they cross an invisible line? And how can parents make space for the kind of questioning that once got them scorned? 3. You state that the first wave of shame comes from the community, but the harder wave is internal — “the shame of having shelved obvious red flags for so long.” How do we process that internal shame, and what does it look like to parent from a place of healing rather than guilt? 4. The book describes former church members instinctively seeking new spaces to preserve their faith, even after painful exits. What does this tell us about the human longing for spiritual belonging, and how do we model that search honestly for our kids? 5. How did diligent study get you “here”? Also, for those of us who were once taught that information was dangerous, how do we now encourage our children to stay curious and think critically without fearing where it might lead? 6. You have said that many of us try not to think — because we fear losing our salvation — and try not to speak — because we fear losing our friends. How did this play out for you personally and how do we raise children to value honesty and connection when so many of us were taught to protect belonging at the expense of our inner truth? 7. If you could tell your kids one thing for their life journey, what would it be and why? We found Jamin compassionate, wise and funny. If you are wondering how you got to this place of deconstructing your faith, this is the episode for you. You can find Jamin here: Website: jamincoller.com Instagram: @dear_evangelicals and @jamincoller…

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I Would Pick You (Queer Advocacy) - Rachel Pinto-Martin 1:03:27

27 days ago1:03:27

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'''Our job as parents is not to make other people comfortable with how we raise our kids, Our job is to make sure our kids grow up in a family where they’re comfortable being exactly who they are.'' Shelly Robinson Our episode this week is with Rachel Pinto-Martin, founder of Self Love, Healthy Boundaries Coaching, mom of two, former Mormon and fierce Queer ally and advocate. On this episode, we talk with Rachel about what it means to have self-love along with healthy boundaries and help our kids to do the same. We also dive deep into advocacy on this front for the Queer community. We chat through these questions: 1. Many of us have grown up in high control religious environments that doesn’t allow for a lot of individuality. How can we begin to foster a sense of being worthy of love when our faith or upbringing told us otherwise? 2. What does it look like to deconstruct faith in a way that allows space for self-love and acceptance, especially for those in the LGBTQ+ community? 3. What are some practical ways parents can create an environment where their children feel safe in their own identity and accepted for who they are, especially if the parents are still deconstructing their own beliefs around sexuality and gender identity. 4. How can parents help their children navigate the complexities of faith and identity, especially if they are trying to reconcile their own religious background 5. What advice do you have for parents who are struggling to reconcile their faith with supporting their queer child? 6. How might we respond to members of the faith community or our family who may hold traditional or conservative views about LGBTQ+ issues? 7. For families who feel isolated in their religious communities because of their child’s identity, what would you say to them? We found Rachel passionate and our conversation was spicy in all the best ways. We were fired up about the harm done to the Queer community by high-control religion and spoke about the best ways we can continue to change the narrative surrounding full affirmation and inclusion. You can find Rachel here: Website: selflovehealthyboundaries.com Instagram: @selflovehealthyboundaries and @thankyouforranting…

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Powerful Parenting - Wendy Snyder 58:10

5 weeks ago58:10

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"Where did we ever get the notion that in order for children to behave better, they first have to feel worse?" Our episode this week is with Wendy Snyder, founder of Fresh Start Family, mom of two teens, podcaster and certified positive (or as she likes to call it), powerful parenting coach. On this episode, we talk with Wendy about what it means to be an empowered parent and how can we parent out of compassionate connection and NOT fear and force. We chat through these questions: 1. What is your overall philosophy on parenting? Are there any core principles you always encourage parents to follow? 2. How has your faith journey shaped the way that you encourage parents in their parenting journeys? Are their old beliefs around parenting that you have let go of or that have evolved? 3. What is one of the things that parents come to you the most about? 4. What are the most common challenges parents come to you with? How do you help parents balance discipline with love and understanding? 5. What are some effective techniques for managing challenging behaviors? How can parents address negative behaviors while maintaining a positive relationship with their child? We found Wendy full of surprises, wisdom, vulnerability and real passion as she shares her own journey to leaving behind parenting with fear and force and leaning into empowered, compassionate connection. She is a fierce advocate for doing parenting in a way that heals our own souls while meeting the needs of our kids. It's a must-listen if you want practical help, hope and humor in them middle of the mayhem of parenting. THIS IS A GOOD ONE!! You can find Wendy here: Website: freshstartfamilyonline.com Instagram: @freshstartwendy Facebook: Fresh Start Family…

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Jesus vs the Bad Guys? - Jared Neusch and Connor Shram 54:31

6 weeks ago54:31

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"In the end, Jesus proved that forgiveness is more powerful than punches and kicks. And in the end, love wins over hate." - Jared Neusch and Connor Shram in their book: Jesus vs. the Bad Guys Our episode this week is with two dads, one a corn hole champion and Biblical scholar (Dr. Jared Neusch) and the other a comedian and change-maker (Connor Shram), both authors of a new book perfect for this time of year, Jesus Vs. the Bad Guys: a Story of Love and Forgiveness. On this episode, we talk with Jared and Connor about reconsidering the Easter story in light of active peace-making and non-violence. We chat through these questions: 1. How do we introduce children to the person of Jesus without reinforcing the fear-based, dualistic messages many of us were taught in high-control religious environments? (We are thinking of good guys vs bad guys here) Do you believe there are good guys and bad guys? 2. Why does it feel important to you that kids have a love of Scripture? What is it about Scripture that feels valuable to you? 3. Can the stories of Jesus’ arrest, conviction, and crucifixion be shared with young children in age-appropriate ways that honor both their emotional development and spiritual curiosity? 4. Your book emphasizes Jesus’ “weapons” of forgiveness, peacemaking, nonviolence, and love—how might these values challenge the cultural parenting norms we inherited from high-control religious systems? Jared and Connor were gentle, wise, funny and so easy to talk with. We didn't want the conversation to end. If you have the desire to reconsider Easter this year and perhaps discover new ways to engage with your kids and this very complicated story, this podcast episode is for you. You can find Jared here: Instagram: @jaredneusch You can find Connor here: Instagram: @connorshram…

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Reimagining Easter - Sarah Swartzendruber 1:03:50

7 weeks ago1:03:50

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You don’t have to the answers to why Jesus died to talk about Easter with your kids. (Sarah Swartzendruber) Our episode this week is with our resident Children's Pastor, childhood development expert, mom to two and Bible scholar, Sarah Swartzendruber. On this episode, we talk with Sarah about reimagining the Easter story by diving into atonement theories and practical ways we can talk about it with our littles, middles and bigs. We chat through these questions: 1. What's your current take on the Easter story? What do you personally believe? 2. What are the seven main atonement theories (reasons people believe Jesus died)? 3. What do we do about Easter and our kids? How can we navigate the complicated adult themes that the Easter story holds? 4. Can you share with us specific age appropriate ways we might be able to study the Easter story with our kids? 5. Are there themes or ideas that you stay away from when you’re teaching the Easter story? 6. How do we create an environment where our kids feel safe to ask hard questions and also encourage them to honor differing beliefs? Sarah is brilliant and funny, always a welcome guest at our podcast table. If you are struggling with how to celebrate (or NOT) Easter this year and what the heck to do with your kids and the messy, complicated themes surrounding it, this podcast episode is for you. You can find the Sarah in these spaces: Instagram: @parentingafterdeconstruction Website: www.parentingafterdeconstuction.com…

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Aligning Faith with Soul - Chelan Harkin 1:06:59

8 weeks ago1:06:59

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The worst thing we ever did is pretend God isn’t the easiest thing in this Universe available to every soul in every breath. (Chelan Harkin) Our episode this week is with Chelan Harkin, mama to two and mystical poet extraordinaire. On this episode, we talk with Chelan about growing up in the Baha'i faith, the courage it takes to question what you've been told all your life, how our faith can align with our soul and especially how this all fleshes out in our parenting. We chat through these questions: 1. Your poetry invites readers to redefine traditional concepts of God and spirituality. How has your personal journey with spirituality influenced this mission, and what impact do you hope it has on your audience? 2. You once embarked on a 30-day “bad poem” experiment to break free from perfectionism. Can you talk about how that creative challenge helped you dismantle the rigid expectations imposed by high-control systems, religious or otherwise? 3. You have a poem that calls children "life’s great revolutionaries," challenging us to overturn our ingrained habits and expectations. Can you share an experience where your child’s unfiltered perspective radically shifted the way you view success and the meaning of life? 4. Your words remind us that children invite us to let go of our obsession with perfectionism and to instead embrace the beautiful mess of each moment. How has your child’s spontaneous, raw energy helped you see the sacred in everyday imperfection? 5. Rejecting a God of fear in favor of one who delights in joy—symbolized by putting extra whipped cream on things—your poem reimagines divinity as a source of wonder and playfulness. In what ways has your relationship with your child reshaped your understanding of faith and inspired you to live more joyfully? We found Chelan to be gentle, authentic, and very in tune with her soul. We laughed a lot, talked about ice cream, and also took a deep dive into some difficult questions. You can find Chelan here: Instagram: @chelanharkin Facebook: Chelan Harkin…

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Highly Unorthodox Gospel - Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer 57:39

9 weeks ago57:39

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With regard to the question, “Do you believe in God?” I do not care much about your answer. But if I were to ask the last five people with whom you’ve interacted if you were kind, about those answers I care very much. (Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer) Our episode this week is with Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer, dad, author of the brilliant book, Highly Unorthodox Gospel, (also known as HUG), French Horn player and our very first Rabbi. On this episode, we talk with rB (as he refers to himself) about all things related to kindness, compassion and love when it comes to our ever-evolving faith. We chat through these questions: 1. Tell us about the word “spiritualigiuos” on your website called “Religion Outside the Box.” We are so intrigued. Can you tell us what this means to you? How is it different from mainstream practice? 2. We love the title of your new book with the acronym HUG (not lost on us), Highly Unorthodox Gospel. What’s your gospel like and why is it highly unorthodox? 3. One of your reviews on the book said this: “Hi rB, You had me at page fricking one!! I absolutely loved the book and couldn’t put it down. I finished it in one day. I am going to read it again and again. Loved the bacon cheese burger on matzah during Passover.” Can you just indulge us with this taste of what your book might be like for those who might be just a bit skeptical? 4. We are a parenting podcast. The themes of compassion, kindness, and love are central to the book. How can parents incorporate these values into their daily lives with their children that may be different than the way they might have grown up in high-control religion? Why these three? 5. How do you think we can challenge the idea of "right and wrong", “black and white” , what we might deem as orthodoxy in our faiths while still raising children with values that matter? 6. In what ways can we nurture both our own spiritual growth and our children’s spiritual development in a world full of competing beliefs? We found rB to be hilarious, genuine, knowledgable and humble. We laughed a lot and also dove deep into some difficult questions. You can find rB here: Websites: rabbibrian.com rotb.org Instagram: @rabbi_brian_af Facebook: Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer Newsletter: https://rotb.org/subscribe/…

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Ancestors, Art & Ancient Texts - Liz Charlotte Grant 45:29

10 weeks ago45:29

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Doubt is another word for imagination. (Liz Charlotte Grant) Our episode this week is with Liz Charlotte Grant, mom, author of the new brilliant book, Knock at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible , artist and lover of the Bible. On this episode, we talk with Liz about all things related to seeking God through Scripture even as our faith continues to evolve. We chat through these questions: 1. What made you do a deep dive into Genesis specifically? 2. How do you continue to see Scripture as sacred even when you no longer believe in its literal interpretation? 3. What is a fresh way to read Genesis that moves beyond traditional interpretations and the culture wars? 4. The Old Testament is often the last part of the Bible that people come back to. What beauty and wisdom can we find in these books outside of this vengeful God that many of us have known? 5. What does it look like to view the Bible as a work of art, and how can this perspective reshape our relationship with Scripture and faith? 6. What role has parenting played in your fresh way of viewing Scripture and the ways you’ve re structured your faith? 7. I n the process of examining and teasing out our beliefs, how can we teach our children that the seeking itself is the point, and that it’s okay to question sacred texts? We found Liz to be funny, knowledgeable and ever-so-relatable. We laughed a lot and also dove deep into some difficult questions. You can find Liz here: Website: lizcharlotte.com Instagram: @lizcharlottegrant Facebook: Liz Charlotte Grant Threads: @lizcharlottegrant Substack: https://substack.com/@lizcharlotte…

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I've Got Questions - Erin Hicks Moon 48:58

11 weeks ago48:58

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What we're learning is that God is comfortable with questions. In fact, our questions are often where God want to meet us. (Erin Hicks Moon) Our episode this week is with Erin Hicks Moon, mom, author of the new brilliant book, I've Got Questions, Zac Efron apologist (it's a thing y'all), and self-proclaimed Bible-nerd. On this episode, we talk with Erin about all things related to questioning, and why it's an necessary spiritual practice. Plus, we do find out more about why she has a obsession with Zac Efron, a reason to listen for sure. We chat through these questions: 1. For parents who are deconstructing, how can we help our kids navigate their own faith journey when we’re still figuring out ours? 2. What is the spiritual practice of "having it out with God." How can we do that in a healthy, healing way, especially when dealing with a faith background that was once rigid and controlling? 3. You emphasize the power of lament and naming our pressure points in faith. What do you mean by lament and why does it matter so much when it comes to questioning God? And how does lament relate to naming our pressure points? 4. You use lots of humor as a way to cope and heal. How can we, as parents, incorporate humor or lightness into our own healing process when parenting feels so heavy due to past religious experiences? 5. You say that wrestling with God is part of the traditional Christian story, not a deviation from it. How can parents model a healthy wrestling with faith for their children, especially when they were taught to avoid questions in a high-control environment? 6. In your book, you offer a pathway to make peace with our past faith experiences. What practical steps would you recommend for parents to set new spiritual boundaries for their families, even if those steps take them outside traditional religious norms? We found Erin to be smart, hilarious, and engaging, our conversation with her perfect for the times we find ourselves in on our ever-evolving faith and parenting journeys. You can find Erin here: Website: erinhmoon.com Instagram: @erinhmoon Substack: erinhmoon.substack.com…

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Uncovering and Recovering from Purity Culture - Joshua Harris 54:42

12 weeks ago54:42

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"Purity culture presents a false dichotomy: restraint or chaos. The real alternative? Sexual empowerment - the freedom to experience intimacy on your own meaningful terms." (Joshua Harris) Our episode this week is with Joshua Harris, former pastor and the author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye , released at the height of purity culture, and currently on an highly sacred, evolving spiritual path. Here's where he finds himself today: I used to have all the answers—chapter and verse. Now I’m happily uncertain and enjoying the wonder and mystery of life. Purity culture is one of the most harmful ideologies that has invaded not only our bodies, but our minds and souls. We feel it's impact every day in our relationships and even in our parenting. On this episode, we talk with Josh about his own journey as the promoter and victim of purity culture, his "fall from grace," the deep heartache that ensued, his own shifting journey towards healing and wholeness, and how all of that has played out in and with his family. We answer these questions: 1. You’ve gone through a pretty public shift in how you view relationships and faith. How has your perspective on dating and marriage evolved since the release of I Kissed Dating Goodbye ? 2. Reflecting on your journey from promoting purity culture to embracing a more open perspective, how do you now approach discussions about relationships and sexuality with your children, and what lessons have you learned that you wish you had known earlier? 3. Given the shifts in your personal and spiritual life, what has been the most significant lesson you've learned about grace, forgiveness, and transformation? 4. How have your faith shifts changed the way that you parent your own children, perhaps in other ways that are not directly associated with purity culture? 5. If you could sit your kids down and tell them one thing to take on their life’s journey (with the caveat that they would listen to you), what would it be and why? We found Josh to be wise, gentle, humble and the conversation with him much-needed and very much-appreciated. There was a palpable healing that took place as we were recording. If you have been harmed by purity culture and want to take one step toward your own journey of uncovering it and recovering from it, this is a MUST-LISTEN! You can find Joshua here: Website: joshharris.com Instagram: @harrisjosh…

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Reimagining Christmas - Sarah Swartzendruber 1:00:41

25 weeks ago1:00:41

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"When our faith shifts, sometimes stories that once felt magical like Christmas feel complicated. We can still feel empowered by the magical parts of the story while leaving room for age appropriate theology and curiosity with the story." (Sarah Swartzendruber) Our episode this week is with Sarah Swartzendruber, Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith curriculum creator (Zippee) and cohort leader for Parenting After Deconstruction. Most of the parents who reach out to her know what they don't want to teach their kids, but they have no idea what they do want for their families. Sarah's passion is helping parents ind deconstruction create healthy spiritual practices for their kids that answer the question, "What now? How can we do this well?" On this episode, we dive deep into the idea of reimagining Christmas in the ways we parent. We answer these questions: 1. What does reimagining Christmas mean to you, and why might it be important for us? 2. How can we shift the focus of Christmas from tradition or obligation to something more meaningful and authentic? 3. How can parents involve their children in rethinking and co-creating new Christmas traditions that reflect their family’s evolving values? 4. How can families navigate grief or loss that might come with letting go of old traditions while creating space for new ones? Sarah is brilliant, imaginative and funny, while at the same time, a kick-butt theologian who will help you to feel like you've got what it takes to walk this "tricky tightrope" in confidence and clarity, but mostly in compassion and curiosity. Don't miss out! You can find the Sarah in these spaces: Instagram: @parentingafterdeconstruction Website: www.parentingafterdeconstuction.com…

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Everyone Belongs - Mariko Clark and Rachel Eleanor 1:04:24

26 weeks ago1:04:24

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"I’m writing the story Bible I wish to see in the world. Not just for my daughter, not just for girls, but for all kids. Because when it comes to the love of God, everyone belongs.” Mariko Clark Our episode this week is with the author and illustrator of the new and wildly popular children's Bible story book, The Book of Belonging , Mariko Clark and Rachel Eleanor. Their passion to provide a resource for kids (and their parents) that is wildly inclusive, historically accurate and highly engaging has us buying copies left and right. Our conversation was filled with laughter, light, healing and even tears. Some of the topics we explore are these: The inspiration for The Book of Belonging and how it is different from traditional Bible storybooks. Celebrating diversity within God’s people. The central message of belonging and how it might be a boots-on-the-ground word for love. The importance of the contemplative practices of mindfulness and wonder moments for us and our kids. Why featuring overlooked, female-centered stories is an essential for spriitual formation. Shaping a child’s sense of identity and understanding of belonging to God. Our favorite words from this podcast episode were sweatpants, safe harbor, poop, companioning, and of course, belonging. Find out why when you listen. You can find the Book of Belonging at the following: Website : thebookofbelonging.com Substack: https://substack.com/@thebookofbelonging Instagram: @marikoclark and @rachel.eleanor.art…

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Unbelieve, Jaded, Whole - Marla Taviano 1:02:09

27 weeks ago1:02:09