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Prompts vs Pixels
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Mentioned
- V0 by Vercel that generates front-end code
- Builder.io for creating UI flows from language prompts
- UXPilot for generating UI from specs
- Lovable for different design styles
- Perplexity as a tool that bypasses SEO spam
- Why do AI company logos look like buttholes?
- Jakob's Law of Internet User Experience
- 23:48 Brian says he didn’t do a great job unpacking the confusion and buzz around “agentic AI” and that many people conflate multi-shot prompts, agentic AI and AI agents. Most real world “agentic AI” today doesn’t exactly match the definition used in research papers around AI agents.
- 38:00 Great story of a UX designer using Figma’s MCP (Model Context Protocol) Server and Cursor to create functional code.
- 41:00 The Shape of AI | UX Patterns for Artificial Intelligence Design
Topics Discussed
- Large Language Models (LLMs) vs other AI technologies
- The rapid standardization of AI interface patterns
- AI tools in designers' current workflows
- Multi-shot prompts and agentic systems
- The tension between "prompts vs pixels" in product development
- How AI is changing the designer's role
- The new "industrial revolution" we're experiencing with AI
Pull Quotes
- "Most AI researchers believe that the AI models have already reached 100% scouring of the web, right? So anything that's public is probably in those foundational models, which means they're not really going to grow much in the next five years." –Brian
- "It will make the most basic patterns. It will pull the most basic stuff... But what it won't do is it won't make it interesting." –Joe
- "I was a little bit stunned by how quickly that locked into amber... that they're all chat-based interfaces. They all use magic wands or sparkles or something." –Joe
- "A society that prioritizes productivity is a society without imagination... if the goal is to just get the data as fast as possible to do things better and faster, you are saving time for what?" –Joe
- "This is a new enlightenment. This is a new industrial revolution... Everything is changing." –Joe
Other Resources on AI & Design
- The case against conversational interfaces
- Emerging UI/UX Patterns in Generative AI: A Visual Guide
- UX patterns for AI-powered experiences
- Emerging UX patterns in Generative AI experiences
- What I’ve learned from 18 mths of AI conversational UI design
- Generative AI UX Design Patterns
- Scarcity and Abundance in 2025
Connect with Joe & Brian
- Website: designer.fm
- Email: [email protected]
- Please like, subscribe, and give us any feedback!
Outro music: In the Year 2525 by Zager & Evans
Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]
51 episodes
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Content provided by Designer & Designer, Brian Fling, and Joe Alterio. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Designer & Designer, Brian Fling, and Joe Alterio or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://ppacc.player.fm/legal.
Mentioned
- V0 by Vercel that generates front-end code
- Builder.io for creating UI flows from language prompts
- UXPilot for generating UI from specs
- Lovable for different design styles
- Perplexity as a tool that bypasses SEO spam
- Why do AI company logos look like buttholes?
- Jakob's Law of Internet User Experience
- 23:48 Brian says he didn’t do a great job unpacking the confusion and buzz around “agentic AI” and that many people conflate multi-shot prompts, agentic AI and AI agents. Most real world “agentic AI” today doesn’t exactly match the definition used in research papers around AI agents.
- 38:00 Great story of a UX designer using Figma’s MCP (Model Context Protocol) Server and Cursor to create functional code.
- 41:00 The Shape of AI | UX Patterns for Artificial Intelligence Design
Topics Discussed
- Large Language Models (LLMs) vs other AI technologies
- The rapid standardization of AI interface patterns
- AI tools in designers' current workflows
- Multi-shot prompts and agentic systems
- The tension between "prompts vs pixels" in product development
- How AI is changing the designer's role
- The new "industrial revolution" we're experiencing with AI
Pull Quotes
- "Most AI researchers believe that the AI models have already reached 100% scouring of the web, right? So anything that's public is probably in those foundational models, which means they're not really going to grow much in the next five years." –Brian
- "It will make the most basic patterns. It will pull the most basic stuff... But what it won't do is it won't make it interesting." –Joe
- "I was a little bit stunned by how quickly that locked into amber... that they're all chat-based interfaces. They all use magic wands or sparkles or something." –Joe
- "A society that prioritizes productivity is a society without imagination... if the goal is to just get the data as fast as possible to do things better and faster, you are saving time for what?" –Joe
- "This is a new enlightenment. This is a new industrial revolution... Everything is changing." –Joe
Other Resources on AI & Design
- The case against conversational interfaces
- Emerging UI/UX Patterns in Generative AI: A Visual Guide
- UX patterns for AI-powered experiences
- Emerging UX patterns in Generative AI experiences
- What I’ve learned from 18 mths of AI conversational UI design
- Generative AI UX Design Patterns
- Scarcity and Abundance in 2025
Connect with Joe & Brian
- Website: designer.fm
- Email: [email protected]
- Please like, subscribe, and give us any feedback!
Outro music: In the Year 2525 by Zager & Evans
Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]
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