“Maybe We Aren’t Stubborn Enough” by emre kaplan🔸

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A secret field that summons lightning. A massive spiral that disappears into a salt lake. A celestial observatory carved into a volcano. Meet the wild—and sometimes explosive—world of land art, where artists craft masterpieces with dynamite and bulldozers. In our Season 2 premiere, guest Dylan Thuras, cofounder of Atlas Obscura, takes us off road and into the minds of the artists who literally reshaped parts of the Southwest. These works aren’t meant to be easy to reach—or to explain—but they just might change how you see the world. Land art you’ll visit in this episode: - Double Negative and City by Michael Heizer (Garden Valley, Nevada) - Spiral Jetty by Robert Smithson (Great Salt Lake, Utah) - Sun Tunnels by Nancy Holt (Great Basin Desert, Utah) - Lightning Field by Walter De Maria (Catron County, New Mexico) - Roden Crater by James Turrell (Painted Desert, Arizona) Via Podcast is a production of AAA Mountain West Group.…

about a year ago 4:02

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I sometimes worry that focus on effectiveness creates perverse incentives in strategic settings, leading us to become less effective. Here are a few observations illustrating this concern.

Effectiveness-focused advocacy creates perverse incentives for adversaries

When we conduct cage-free campaigns, the target companies frequently ask us why they are being targeted instead of some other company. While trying to answer that, one immediately realises the following tension. If we say that "because targeting you is the most effective thing we can do", we incentivise them to not budge. Because they will know that willingness to compromise invites more aggression.

When dealing with an effectiveness-focused movement, our adversaries are further incentivised to prevent concrete results. While other movements will have to be destroyed through pressure, an effectiveness-focused movement will easily go away if you just prove to them that they can be more effective elsewhere.

For that reason, in our [...]

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Outline:

(00:21) Effectiveness-focused advocacy creates perverse incentives for adversaries

(01:20) Sometimes you have to fight back even when it's not the most effective thing to do

(02:05) Religious rules survive because they are stubborn

(02:39) We might need more commitment devices

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April 8th, 2025

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https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/tvcEa9LhsX264NZbf/maybe-we-aren-t-stubborn-enough

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“Maybe We Aren’t Stubborn Enough” by emre kaplan🔸

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published about a year ago

MP3•Episode home

I sometimes worry that focus on effectiveness creates perverse incentives in strategic settings, leading us to become less effective. Here are a few observations illustrating this concern.

Effectiveness-focused advocacy creates perverse incentives for adversaries

For that reason, in our [...]

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Outline:

(00:21) Effectiveness-focused advocacy creates perverse incentives for adversaries

(01:20) Sometimes you have to fight back even when it's not the most effective thing to do

(02:05) Religious rules survive because they are stubborn

(02:39) We might need more commitment devices

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First published:
April 8th, 2025

Source:
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/tvcEa9LhsX264NZbf/maybe-we-aren-t-stubborn-enough

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

256 episodes

#Tech #Society #Philosophy #EA Forum Team #Technology #Non-Profit #Future

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“Please Donate to CAIP (Post 1 of 3 on AI Governance)” by Jason Green-Lowe 1:00:04

2 days ago1:00:04

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I am Jason Green-Lowe, the executive director of the Center for AI Policy (CAIP). Our mission is to directly convince Congress to pass strong AI safety legislation. As I explain in some detail in this post, I think our organization has been doing extremely important work, and that we’ve been doing well at it. Unfortunately, we have been unable to get funding from traditional donors to continue our operations. If we don’t get more funding in the next 30 days, we will have to shut down, which will damage our relationships with Congress and make it harder for future advocates to get traction on AI governance. In this post, I explain what we’ve been doing, why I think it's valuable, and how your donations could help. This is the first post in what I expect will be a 3-part series. The first post focuses on CAIP's particular need [...] --- Outline: (01:33) OUR MISSION AND STRATEGY (02:59) Our Model Legislation (04:17) Direct Meetings with Congressional Staffers (05:20) Expert Panel Briefings (06:16) AI Policy Happy Hours (06:43) Op-Eds & Policy Papers (07:22) Grassroots & Grasstops Organizing (09:13) Whats Unique About CAIP? (10:26) OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS (10:29) Quantifiable Outputs (11:21) Changing the Media Narrative (12:23) Proof of Concept (13:44) Outcomes -- Congressional Engagement (18:29) Context (19:54) OUR PROPOSED POLICIES (19:58) Mandatory Audits for Frontier AI (21:23) Liability Reform (22:32) Hardware Monitoring (24:11) Emergency Powers (25:31) Further Details (25:41) RESPONSES TO COMMON POLICY OBJECTIONS (25:46) 1. Why not push for a ban or pause on superintelligence research? (30:17) 2. Why not support bills that have a better chance of passing this year, like funding for NIST or NAIRR? (32:30) 3. If Congress is so slow to act, why should anyone be working with Congress at all? Why not focus on promoting state laws or voluntary standards? (35:09) 4. Why would you push the US to unilaterally disarm? Don't we instead need a global treaty regulating AI (or subsidies for US developers) to avoid handing control of the future to China? (37:24) 5. Why haven't you accomplished your mission yet? If your organization is effective, shouldn't you have passed some of your legislation by now, or at least found some powerful Congressional sponsors for it? (40:56) OUR TEAM (41:53) Executive Director (44:04) Government Relations Team (45:12) Policy Team (46:08) Communications Team (47:29) Operations Team (48:11) Personnel Changes (48:49) OUR PLAN IF FUNDED (51:58) OUR FUNDING SITUATION (52:02) Our Expenses & Runway (53:02) No Good Way to Cut Costs (55:22) Our Revenue (57:02) Surprise Budget Deficit (59:00) The Bottom Line --- First published: May 7th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/9uZHnEkhXZjWzia7F/please-donate-to-caip-post-1-of-3-on-ai-governance --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .…

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“Doing Prioritization Better” by arvomm, David_Moss, Hayley Clatterbuck, Laura Duffy, Derek Shiller, Bob Fischer 1:15:04

4 days ago1:15:04

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Or on the types of prioritization, their strengths, pitfalls, and how EA should balance them The cause prioritization landscape in EA is changing. Prominent groups have shut down, others have been founded, and everyone is trying to figure out how to prepare for AI. This is the first in a series of posts examining the state of cause prioritization and proposing strategies for moving forward. Executive Summary Performing prioritization work has been one of the main tasks, and arguably achievements, of EA. We highlight three types of prioritization: Cause Prioritization, Within-Cause (Intervention) Prioritization, and Cross-Cause (Intervention) Prioritization. We ask how much of EA prioritization work falls in each of these categories: Our estimates suggest that, for the organizations we investigated, the current split is 89% within-cause work, 2% cross-cause, and 9% cause prioritization. We then explore strengths and potential pitfalls of each level: Cause [...] --- Outline: (00:37) Executive Summary (03:09) Introduction: Why prioritize? Have we got it right? (05:18) The types of prioritization (06:54) A snapshot of EA (16:45) The Types of Prioritization Evaluated (16:57) Cause Prioritization (20:56) Within-Cause Prioritization (25:12) Cross-Cause Prioritization (30:07) Summary Table (30:53) What factors should push us towards one or another? (37:27) Possible Next Steps (39:44) Conclusion (40:58) Acknowledgements (41:01) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Modern geometric logo design with text RETHINK PRIORITIES (41:55) Appendix: Strengths and Pitfalls of Each Type (42:07) Within-Cause Prioritization Strengths (42:12) Decision-Making Support (42:37) Comparability of Outputs (44:18) Disciplinarity Advantages (45:45) Responsiveness to Evidence (46:48) Movement Building (48:06) Within-Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (48:12) Responsiveness to Evidence (50:54) Decision-Making Support (52:45) Cross-Cause Prioritization Strengths: (53:06) Decision-Making Support (54:49) Responsiveness to Evidence (56:08) Movement Building (56:22) Comparability of Outputs (56:45) Decision-Making Support (57:14) Cross-Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (57:20) Comparability of Outputs (58:01) Disciplinarity Advantages (58:41) Movement Building (59:09) Decision-Making Support (01:00:27) Cause Prioritization Strengths (01:00:32) Decision-Making Support (01:02:01) Responsiveness to Evidence (01:02:52) Movement Building (01:03:28) Cause Prioritization Weaknesses and Potential Pitfalls (01:04:28) Decision-Making Support (01:06:08) Responsiveness to Evidence The original text contained 23 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 16th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/ZPdZv8sHuYndD8xhJ/doing-prioritization-better-2 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“The Soul of EA is in Trouble” by Mjreard 15:57

5 days ago15:57

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This is a Forum Team crosspost from Substack. Whither cause prioritization and connection with the good? There's a trend towards people who once identified as Effective Altruists now identifying solely as “people working on AI safety.”[1] For those in the loop, it feels like less of a trend and more of a tidal wave. There's an increasing sense that among the most prominent (formerly?) EA orgs and individuals, making AGI go well is functionally all that matters. For that end, so the trend goes, the ideas of Effective Altruism have exhausted their usefulness. They pointed us to the right problem – thanks; we’ll take it from here. And taking it from here means building organizations, talent bases, and political alliances at a scale incommensurate with attachment to a niche ideology or moralizing language generally. I think this a dangerous path to go down too hard and my impression [...] --- Outline: (02:39) What I see (06:35) The threat means pose to ends (11:12) Losing something more The original text contained 2 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 8th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/CKKAga4HfQyAranaC/the-soul-of-ea-is-in-trouble --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .…

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“12x more cost-effective than EAG - how I organised EA North 2025 (and how you could, too)” by matthes 14:23

6 days ago14:23

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I put on a small one-day conference. The cost per attendee was £50 (vs £1.2k for EAGs) and the cost per new connection was £11 (vs £130 for EAGs). intro EA North was a one-day event for the North of England. 35 people showed up on the day. In total, I spent £1765 (≈ $2.4k), including paying myself £20/h for 30h total. This money will be reimbursed by EA UK[1]. The cost per attendee was £50 and the cost per new connection was £11. These are significantly lower than for EAG events, suggesting that we should be putting on more smaller events. I am not arguing that EAGs should not exist at all. A local event will likely never let me connect with someone living on another continent in person. My main goal with this post is to encourage individuals to put on more events [...] --- Outline: (00:29) intro (01:38) why you can probably do this, too (02:26) what I spent the money on and a comparison with EAG London 2023 (03:12) budget breakdown (04:48) cost per attendee per day (05:17) cost per connection (07:19) what I spent my time on (08:24) ideas for being even more cost-effective (09:27) recommendations to funders (09:49) reconsider how much resources you spend on small applications (10:44) consider providing funding upfront (11:17) thermal printers are cool and cheap (11:57) conclusion The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 2nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/m9sTFoAsE8dSnzoBt/untitled-draft-tr7p --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“E2G help available” by Will Kirkpatrick 5:22

8 days ago5:22

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If you’re interested in having a meaningful EA career but your experience doesn’t match the types of jobs that the typical white collar, intellectual EA community leans towards, then you’re just like me. I have been earning to give as a nuclear power plant operator in Southern Maryland for the past few years, and I think it's a great opportunity for other EA's who want to make a difference but don’t have a PhD in philosophy or public policy. Additionally, I have personal sway with Constellation Energy's Calvert Cliffs plant, so I can influence the hiring process to help any interested applicants. Here are a few reasons that I think this is such an ideal Earn to Give career: A high income job in a low cost of living area means you will be able to donate a significant portion of your paychecks and still live comfortably. [...] --- First published: April 17th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/LeuLyJEXcjAkeB965/e2g-help-available --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .…

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“Cultivating doubt: why I no longer believe cultivated meat is the answer” by Tom Bry-Chevalier🔸 24:01

10 days ago24:01

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Introduction In this post, I present what I believe to be an important yet underexplored argument that fundamentally challenges the promise of cultivated meat. In essence, there are compelling reasons to conclude that cultivated meat will not replace conventional meat, but will instead primarily compete with other alternative proteins that offer superior environmental and ethical benefits. Moreover, research into and promotion of cultivated meat may potentially result in a net negative impact. Beyond critique, I try to offer constructive recommendations for the EA movement. While I've kept this post concise, I'm more than willing to elaborate on any specific point upon request. From industry to academia: my cultivated meat journey I'm currently in my fourth year (and hopefully final one!) of my PhD. My thesis examines the environmental and economic challenges associated with alternative proteins. I have three working papers on cultivated meat at various stages of development, though [...] --- Outline: (00:13) Introduction (00:55) From industry to academia: my cultivated meat journey (01:53) Motivations and epistemic status (03:39) Baseline assumptions for this discussion (03:44) Cultivated meat is environmentally better than conventional meat, but probably not as good as plant-based meat (06:29) Cultivated meat will remain quite expensive for several years, and hybrid plant-cell products will likely appear on the market first (08:58) Cultivated meat is ethically better than conventional meat (10:26) The main argument: cannibalization rather than conversion (16:46) Strategic drawbacks of the current focus (19:11) The evidence that would make me eat my words (and maybe cultivated meat) (20:37) What Id like to see change in the Effective Altruism approach to cultivated meat (22:14) Answer from GFI Europe --- First published: April 30th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/TYhs8zehyybvMt5E4/cultivating-doubt-why-i-no-longer-believe-cultivated-meat-is --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“Reflections on 7 years building the EA Forum — and moving on” by JP Addison🔸 4:44

11 days ago4:44

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I’m ironically not a very prolific writer. I’ve preferred to stay behind the scenes here and leave the writing to my colleagues who have more of a knack for it. But a goodbye post is something I must write for myself. Perhaps I’m getting old and nostalgic, because what came out wound up being a wander down memory lane. I probably am getting old and nostalgic, but I also hope I’ve communicated something about my love for this community and the gratefulness for the chance to serve you all. My story of the EA Forum Few things have lasted as long in my life as my work on the Forum. I’ve spent more time working on the EA Forum than I’ve spent living anywhere since I was 0-12 years old. I've worked on the Forum longer than I've known my partner—whom I've known long enough to get married to. [...] --- Outline: (00:40) My story of the EA Forum (03:47) What's next The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: May 1st, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/4ckgvqohXTBy6hCap/untitled-draft-a4kx --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“Prioritizing Work” by Jeff Kaufman 🔸 1:30

12 days ago1:30

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I recently read a blog post that concluded with: When I'm on my deathbed, I won't look back at my life and wish I had worked harder. I'll look back and wish I spent more time with the people I loved. Setting aside that some people don't have the economic breathing room to make this kind of tradeoff, what jumps out at me is the implication that you're not working on something important that you'll endorse in retrospect. I don't think the author is envisioning directly valuable work (reducing risk from international conflict, pandemics, or AI-supported totalitarianism; improving humanity's treatment of animals; fighting global poverty) or the undervalued less direct approach of earning money and donating it to enable others to work on pressing problems. Definitely spend time with your friends, family, and those you love. Don't work to the exclusion of everything else [...] --- First published: May 1st, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cF6eumerCq8hnb9YT/prioritizing-work --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .…

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“Reflections on the $5 Minimum Donation Barrier on the Giving What We Can Platform — A Student Perspective from a Lower-Income Country.” by Habeeb Abdul 3:08

15 days ago3:08

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I wanted to share a small but important challenge I've encountered as a student engaging with Effective Altruism from a lower-income country (Nigeria), and invite thoughts or suggestions from the community. Recently, I tried to make a one-time donation to one of the EA-aligned charities listed on the Giving What We Can platform. However, I discovered that I could not donate an amount less than $5. While this might seem like a minor limit for many, for someone like me — a student without a steady income or job, $5 is a significant amount. To provide some context: According to Numbeo, the average monthly income of a Nigerian worker is around $130–$150, and students often rely on even less — sometimes just $20–$50 per month for all expenses. For many students here, having $5 "lying around" isn't common at all; it could represent a week's worth of meals [...] --- First published: April 28th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YoN3sKfkr5ruW47Cg/reflections-on-the-usd5-minimum-donation-barrier-on-the --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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[Linkpost] “Scaling Our Pilot Early-Warning System” by Jeff Kaufman 🔸 5:34

19 days ago5:34

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This is a link post. Summary: The NAO will increase our sequencing significantly over the next few months, funded by a $3M grant from Open Philanthropy. This will allow us to scale our early-warning system to where we could flag many engineered pathogens early enough to mitigate their worst impacts, and also generate large amounts of data to develop, tune, and evaluate our detection systems. One of the biological threats the NAO is most concerned with is a 'stealth' pathogen, such as a virus with the profile of a faster-spreading HIV. This could cause a devastating pandemic, and early detection would be critical to mitigate the worst impacts. If such a pathogen were to spread, however, we wouldn't be able to monitor it with traditional approaches because we wouldn't know what to look for. Instead, we have invested in metagenomic sequencing for pathogen-agnostic detection. This doesn't require deciding what [...] --- First published: April 2nd, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AJ8bd2sz8tF7cxJff/scaling-our-pilot-early-warning-system Linkpost URL: https://naobservatory.org/blog/scaling-our-early-warning-system/ --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“Why you can justify almost anything using historical social movements” by JamesÖz 🔸 9:11

19 days ago9:11

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[Cross-posted from my Substack here] If you spend time with people trying to change the world, you’ll come to an interesting conundrum: Various advocacy groups reference previous successful social movements as to why their chosen strategy is the most important one. Yet, these groups often follow wildly different strategies from each other to achieve social change. So, which one of them is right? The answer is all of them and none of them. This is because many people use research and historical movements to justify their pre-existing beliefs about how social change happens. Simply, you can find a case study to fit most plausible theories of how social change happens. For example, the groups might say: Repeated nonviolent disruption is the key to social change, citing the Freedom Riders from the civil rights Movement or Act Up! from the gay rights movement. Technological progress is what drives improvements [...] The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 24th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kACcdhLDdWb9ZPG9L/why-you-can-justify-almost-anything-using-historical-social --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“AI for Animals 2025 Bay Area Retrospective” by Constance Li, AI for Animals 26:20

25 days ago26:20

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Our Mission: To build a multidisciplinary field around using technology—especially AI—to improve the lives of nonhumans now and in the future. Overview Background This hybrid conference had nearly 550 participants and took place March 1-2, 2025 at UC Berkeley. It was organized by AI for Animals for $74k by volunteer core organizers Constance Li, Sankalpa Ghose, and Santeri Tani. This conference has evolved since 2023: The 1st conference mainly consisted of philosophers and was a single track lecture/panel. The 2nd conference put all lectures on one day and followed it with 2 days of interactive unconference sessions happening in parallel and a week of in-person co-working. This 3rd conference had a week of related satellite events, free shared accommodations for 50+ attendees, 2 days of parallel lectures/panels/unconferences, 80 unique sessions, of which 32 are available on Youtube, Swapcard to enable 1:1 connections, and a Slack community to continue conversations year [...] --- Outline: (00:32) Overview (00:35) Background (02:27) Outcomes (03:51) The Event(s) (04:19) Speaking Sessions (04:23) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Conference presentation scenes with speakers and audience in auditorium setting. The image shows a collage of different presentation scenes at what appears to be an academic or professional conference. The main image shows an auditorium with attendees watching a video presentation on a large screen. Other smaller images show speakers on stage in different settings - some seated in orange chairs for a panel discussion, others at podiums. Theres a logo visible for what appears to be a research institute in one of the frames. The setting appears academic/professional in nature, with proper presentation equipment, stage lighting, and organized seating arrangements typical of a conference or symposium event. (05:10) Featured Talks (10:13) Lightning Talks (11:55) Interactive Sessions (12:19) Unconferences (13:22) Meetups (13:36) Mapping Workshops (13:44) Office Hours (13:59) Topic Distribution (14:18) Satellite Events (14:41) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ Events schedule showing AI and animal-focused activities from Feb 26-Mar 2. (14:52) en-US-AvaMultilingualNeural__ People gathered at social events, networking and dining in various settings. (15:02) Behind the Scenes (15:10) Personnel (16:04) Handbooks (16:24) Finances (19:21) Outreach (21:17) Event Reflection (24:12) Get Involved --- First published: April 5th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/KWpyRXzHn6JMyZiBn/ai-for-animals-2025-bay-area-retrospective --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“ALLFED emergency appeal: Help us raise $800,000 to avoid cutting half of programs” by Denkenberger🔸, JuanGarcia, Laura Cook 7:19

26 days ago7:19

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SUMMARY: ALLFED is launching an emergency appeal on the EA Forum due to a serious funding shortfall. Without new support, ALLFED will be forced to cut half our budget in the coming months, drastically reducing our capacity to help build global food system resilience for catastrophic scenarios like nuclear winter, a severe pandemic, or infrastructure breakdown. ALLFED is seeking $800,000 over the course of 2025 to sustain its team, continue policy-relevant research, and move forward with pilot projects that could save lives in a catastrophe. As funding priorities shift toward AI safety, we believe resilient food solutions remain a highly cost-effective way to protect the future. If you’re able to support or share this appeal, please visit allfed.info/donate. FULL ARTICLE: I (David Denkenberger) am writing alongside two of my team-mates, as ALLFED's co-founder, to ask for your support. This is the first time in Alliance [...] --- Outline: (02:40) The case for ALLFED's work, and why we think maintaining full current capacity is valuable (04:14) How this connects to AI and other risks (05:39) What we're asking for --- First published: April 16th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/K7hPmcaf2xEZ6F4kR/allfed-emergency-appeal-help-us-raise-usd800-000-to-avoid-1 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO .…

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“Cost-effectiveness of Anima International Poland” by saulius 39:24

27 days ago39:24

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Summary In this article, I estimate the cost-effectiveness of five Anima International programs in Poland: improving cage-free and broiler welfare, blocking new factory farms, banning fur farming, and encouraging retailers to sell more plant-based protein. I estimate that together, these programs help roughly 136 animals—or 32 years of farmed animal life—per dollar spent. Animal years affected per dollar spent was within an order of magnitude for all five evaluated interventions. I also tried to estimate how much suffering each program alleviates. Using SADs (Suffering-Adjusted Days)—a metric developed by Ambitious Impact (AIM) that accounts for species differences and pain intensity—Anima's programs appear highly cost-effective, even compared to charities recommended by Animal Charity Evaluators. However, I also ran a small informal survey to understand how people intuitively weigh different categories of pain defined by the Welfare Footprint Institute. The results suggested that SADs may heavily underweight brief but intense suffering. Based [...] --- Outline: (02:16) Background (02:46) Results (05:57) Explanations of the programs (08:59) Why these estimates are very uncertain (13:48) Animal welfare metric (16:42) Comparison to SADs (19:42) Comparison to other charities (19:47) Comparisons of SADs estimates (20:54) Comparisons of cage-free estimates (24:26) For how many years do reforms have an impact? (25:21) Cage-free (29:45) Broilers (31:18) Stop the farms (32:57) Fur farms The original text contained 8 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: April 10th, 2025 Source: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sLYSa7MyuDKxreN5h/cost-effectiveness-of-anima-international-poland-1 --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO . --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts , or another podcast app.…

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“Announcing our 2025 strategy” by Giving What We Can 7:04

29 days ago7:04