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Kurtis Hewson's journey from classroom teacher to international education consultant reveals a startling truth about our schools: the isolation educators experience despite being surrounded by colleagues. As co-founder of Jigsaw Learning and co-author of "Collaborative Response," Kurtis shares how this recognition shaped his mission to ensure no teacher works alone and no student lacks a team of advocates.
The conversation unpacks a framework that's transforming schools across North America and beyond. Kurtis explains how the traditional Professional Learning Community model, while valuable, often leaves gaps that allow students to slip through the cracks. His Collaborative Response framework addresses these gaps through three interconnected components: collaborative structures and processes, data and evidence, and continuums of support.
What makes this approach revolutionary is the four-layer collaborative structure it introduces. While most schools have case-by-case meetings for struggling students, Kurtis introduces a game-changing middle layer—the collaborative team meeting—where teachers from different departments come together not to solve individual student problems but to expand their collective teaching toolboxes. The focus shifts from "what's wrong with this student?" to "what strategies might help with this type of challenge?"
The results speak volumes. One school district reported their referrals for specialized services dropped from 25-30 to just four after implementing this framework—not because student needs diminished, but because teachers felt better equipped to handle challenges. Teachers who were counting down to retirement found renewed passion for their work. Achievement scores climbed. All because the expertise already present in the building was being effectively leveraged.
Whether you're battling teacher burnout, struggling with intervention systems that don't seem to catch everyone, or simply looking to harness the collective wisdom in your building, Kurtis offers actionable insights for educational leaders. As he powerfully states, "Stop tiering kids. Tier your supports." This mindset shift alone could transform how we approach student needs in our schools.

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Jigsaw Learning:

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Access the introductory chapter of the bestseller Collaborative Response

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1. Episode 22: Collaborative Response: Insights from Kurtis Hewson on Transforming Schools Through Teamwork! (00:00:00)

2. Introduction to Kurtis Hewson (00:01:58)

3. Kurtis's Educational Journey (00:03:44)

4. Isolation in Teaching & Leadership Beginnings (00:12:54)

5. The Three Components of Collaborative Response (00:20:35)

6. Collaborative Team Meeting Structure (00:37:26)

7. Implementation Advice & Success Stories (00:49:08)

8. Building a Culture of Collaboration Podcast (00:54:13)

9. Closing Thoughts & Contact Information (00:59:30)

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Kurtis Hewson's journey from classroom teacher to international education consultant reveals a startling truth about our schools: the isolation educators experience despite being surrounded by colleagues. As co-founder of Jigsaw Learning and co-author of "Collaborative Response," Kurtis shares how this recognition shaped his mission to ensure no teacher works alone and no student lacks a team of advocates.
The conversation unpacks a framework that's transforming schools across North America and beyond. Kurtis explains how the traditional Professional Learning Community model, while valuable, often leaves gaps that allow students to slip through the cracks. His Collaborative Response framework addresses these gaps through three interconnected components: collaborative structures and processes, data and evidence, and continuums of support.
What makes this approach revolutionary is the four-layer collaborative structure it introduces. While most schools have case-by-case meetings for struggling students, Kurtis introduces a game-changing middle layer—the collaborative team meeting—where teachers from different departments come together not to solve individual student problems but to expand their collective teaching toolboxes. The focus shifts from "what's wrong with this student?" to "what strategies might help with this type of challenge?"
The results speak volumes. One school district reported their referrals for specialized services dropped from 25-30 to just four after implementing this framework—not because student needs diminished, but because teachers felt better equipped to handle challenges. Teachers who were counting down to retirement found renewed passion for their work. Achievement scores climbed. All because the expertise already present in the building was being effectively leveraged.
Whether you're battling teacher burnout, struggling with intervention systems that don't seem to catch everyone, or simply looking to harness the collective wisdom in your building, Kurtis offers actionable insights for educational leaders. As he powerfully states, "Stop tiering kids. Tier your supports." This mindset shift alone could transform how we approach student needs in our schools.

Get Connected with Kurtis:

Jigsaw Learning:

Access an Overview of Collaborative Response article:

Access the introductory chapter of the bestseller Collaborative Response

Teach Better Mid Roll Network Ad

Support the show

Connect with Principal JL Click Here:

Want to be a guest on Educational Leadership with Principal JL?

Send Principal JL a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1742787866678447e5bdb89c1

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Chapters

1. Episode 22: Collaborative Response: Insights from Kurtis Hewson on Transforming Schools Through Teamwork! (00:00:00)

2. Introduction to Kurtis Hewson (00:01:58)

3. Kurtis's Educational Journey (00:03:44)

4. Isolation in Teaching & Leadership Beginnings (00:12:54)

5. The Three Components of Collaborative Response (00:20:35)

6. Collaborative Team Meeting Structure (00:37:26)

7. Implementation Advice & Success Stories (00:49:08)

8. Building a Culture of Collaboration Podcast (00:54:13)

9. Closing Thoughts & Contact Information (00:59:30)

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Send us a text What separates exceptional educational leaders from the merely competent? According to Dr. Frank Buck, it might be as simple and as challenging as reliable organization systems. His journey from band director to productivity expert reveals a crucial truth: educators aren't typically fired because students performed poorly at a concert, but because they forgot to order the buses to get there. Dr. Buck's leadership philosophy centers on supporting teachers by removing obstacles to their core instructional work. With experience spanning classroom teaching, building leadership, and district administration, he's observed firsthand how systematic approaches to organization create environments where both teachers and students thrive. His fundamental principle? External systems for capturing commitments allow your brain to focus on what truly matters teaching and leading rather than constantly trying to remember countless details. The digital revolution has transformed how we manage information, but Buck argues the underlying principles remain unchanged. Whether using a paper planner (his original "little book that impressed teachers") or sophisticated digital tools like Remember the Milk, the key is developing reliable systems where nothing falls through the cracks. Buck shares practical strategies for implementing digital task management, leveraging AI tools like ChatGPT to enhance productivity, and creating repeating task systems that eliminate the need to reinvent processes annually. For aspiring leaders, Buck emphasizes mentorship and persistence, encouraging educators to seek administrative positions before they feel fully ready, understanding that the application process itself builds crucial networks and experience. His most powerful insight might be the simplest: "Good teachers come and stay if you treat them right." Creating systems that support teacher effectiveness ultimately creates the environments where students can flourish. Ready to transform your leadership through better organization? Visit frankbuck.org to access free resources, join his email list, and discover how simple systems can dramatically improve your effectiveness as an educational leader. Dr. Frank Buck's Website: https://FrankBuck.org "Get Organized Digitally!: Here Are Updates To The Book" https://frankbuck.org/get-organized-digitally-updates/ Dr. Frank Buck's social media links: Linkedin: http://linkedin.com/in/DrFrankBuck YouTube: https://youtube.com/@drfrankbuck X: https://x.com/DrFrankBuck Instagram: http://instagram.com/drfrankbuck Facebook: https://facebook.com/@DrFrankBuck Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/frankbuck.org Teach Better Mid Roll Network Ad Support the show Connect with Principal JL Click Here: Want to be a guest on Educational Leadership with Principal JL? Send Principal JL a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1742787866678447e5bdb89c1…
 
Send us a text Imagine walking into a school where a principal tells a fart joke, and within seconds, students take deep breaths and self-regulate back to attention. Sound impossible? For Leroy Slanzi, this is everyday reality in schools that have embraced his emotional intelligence framework. With over 25 years of experience across elementary, middle, and high school leadership, Slanzi brings a unique perspective to the educational leadership conversation. Having begun his career as a special education teacher, he quickly discovered that managing the emotional responses of adults was often more challenging than working with students. This insight became the foundation for his approach to school leadership and eventually led to his book, "Emotional Schools." Slanzi argues that dramatic shifts in childhood experiences over the past 15 years—reduced free play, increased screen time, helicopter parenting—have created a generation of students struggling to manage stress and persevere through challenges. "We're seeing more kids with anxiety disorders, mood disorders, behavior disorders," he explains, noting this trend began well before the pandemic and continues to accelerate worldwide. Rather than lamenting these changes, Slanzi developed a framework that teaches students the science behind their emotions. Even kindergarteners learn how deep breathing activates the prefrontal cortex, allowing for better decision-making. Using consistent language and visual cues throughout the school, this approach becomes embedded in daily interactions rather than existing as a separate program. The results speak for themselves. Schools implementing Slanzi's framework report dramatic improvements in student behavior, attendance rates, and academic performance. Teachers spend less time managing disruptions and more time teaching. Perhaps most impressively, students begin to self-regulate independently, taking deep breaths when frustrated or overwhelmed instead of melting down or acting out. Whether you're dealing with elementary students who think you "walk around with a cape on" or high schoolers contemplating their futures, Slanzi's approach offers practical strategies for building emotional resilience alongside academic skills. Ready to transform your school culture through emotional intelligence? Visit EmotionalSchools.com to learn how you can bring these evidence-based practices to your community. Connect with Leroy Slanzi: Emotional Schools (Amazon) : Teach Better Mid Roll Network Ad Support the show Connect with Principal JL Click Here: Want to be a guest on Educational Leadership with Principal JL? Send Principal JL a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1742787866678447e5bdb89c1…
 
Send us a text Dr. Darrin Peppard's educational leadership journey began when his college roommate asked for help coaching fifth-grade basketball. That simple moment sparked a passion that would guide him from classroom teacher to award-winning principal, superintendent, and eventually to becoming one of education's most respected leadership voices. The turning point in Darrin's leadership philosophy came during his first year as an assistant principal while processing over 2,200 discipline referrals. During a contentious staff meeting about enforcing rules on hats and cell phones, someone asked, "Why does it always have to be about what they do wrong? Why can't it be about what they do right?" This question fundamentally shifted his approach from punishment to celebration, from compliance to culture-building. What makes Darrin's insights so valuable is how he transformed this philosophy into practical action. Rather than imposing solutions, he assembled diverse teams of educators and students to identify root causes of problems. When investigating poor third-period attendance, students revealed they were skipping because they were hungry after being forced to throw away breakfast items at the door. Simple solutions like strategically placing trash cans dramatically improved attendance. His commitment to making everyone feel "seen, heard, valued, and trusted" ultimately raised graduation rates to historic highs. Now through his company Road to Awesome, Darrin coaches educational leaders to get clear about what truly matters to them, be intentional in their actions, and lead with purpose. His bestselling books "Road to Awesome: The Journey of a Leader" and "Culture First Classrooms" (co-authored with Katie Kinder) provide actionable frameworks for building positive school cultures. As Darrin explains, effective leadership isn't about perfection—it's about clarity, intentionality, and focusing on relationships first. Ready to transform your leadership journey? Connect with Dr. Peppard through his website roadtoawesome.net, subscribe to his Leaning Into Leadership podcast, or join his email list for weekly insights that will help you move from crisis management to purposeful leadership. The road to awesome begins with a single step—what will yours be? Connect with Dr. Darrin Peppard by clicking on the links! Rood to Awesome Website: Principal Academy: Road to Awesome Book (Amazon): Culture First Classrooms Book (Amazon): Leaning into Leadership Podcast: YouTube Channel: Teach Better Mid Roll Network Ad Support the show Connect with Principal JL Click Here: Want to be a guest on Educational Leadership with Principal JL? Send Principal JL a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1742787866678447e5bdb89c1…
 
Send us a text Death is something no school leader wants to face, yet crisis management becomes an unavoidable reality when tragedy strikes. Drawing from the painful experience of navigating four student deaths in just three years, this deeply personal episode explores the profound challenges of leading a school community through grief and loss. The sobering statistics tell only part of the story. With suicide ranking as the second leading cause of death among 10-24 year olds and over 6,600 youth suicides in 2021 alone ( CDC, 2023 ), schools face an unprecedented mental health crisis. These aren't merely numbers—they represent faces, stories, and futures abruptly ended, often because young people with still-developing brains see permanent solutions to temporary problems. Behind every effective crisis response stands a carefully orchestrated team. From verifying facts to identifying those most affected, from staged communication to comprehensive support systems, we break down the essential components of compassionate crisis management. The episode details practical strategies for supporting both students and staff, acknowledging that teachers must navigate their own grief while simultaneously supporting vulnerable students. Perhaps most compelling is the question that emerges from these experiences: while we train educators to recognize distress signals, should we be empowering students to do the same? As the frontline witnesses to their peers' struggles, could students become our most valuable allies in suicide prevention? This thought-provoking discussion invites educational leaders to collaborate on innovative solutions to protect young lives. This conversation isn't just about managing crisis—it's about reimagining how we approach mental health in schools. Join me in exploring how we can better support our school communities through their darkest moments and perhaps prevent future tragedies through collective wisdom and courage. National Center for Education Statistics report from May 31, 2022 Teach Better Mid Roll Network Ad Support the show Connect with Principal JL Click Here: Want to be a guest on Educational Leadership with Principal JL? Send Principal JL a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1742787866678447e5bdb89c1…
 
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