Behavior Is the Battlefield: Rethinking the Cyber Perimeter with Expeditors VP & CISO Rob Nolan

Enterprise AI Defenders

On the 28th episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, hosts Evan Reiser and Mike Britton, both executives at Abnormal AI, talk with Rob Nolan, Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer at Expeditors. Expeditors is a Fortune 500 freight and logistics company, powering over 25% of all U.S. customs clearance. They enable global trade and supply chain resilience for many of the world's most recognizable brands. In this conversation, Rob shares how AI is changing the attack surface and the defensive playbook, why behavior and identity have become the new cybersecurity perimeter, and how AI helps enterprise defenders flip the script and regain their advantage.

Quick hits from Rob:

On the role of AI in defense: "The reality is that if I think about a solution that helps us defend against AI attacks, it's more AI."

On defenders flipping the script with AI: "The next frontier is knowing what 'normal' looks like for our business—and letting AI call out what's not."

On culture, training, and enablement: "We're much better off having an AI-intelligent workforce than one we've sheltered away from AI."

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