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The Cost of Shrinking: A Mother-Daughter Conversation About Taking Up Space
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She’s been on the mic with me before — but never quite like this.
In this powerful return episode, I sit down with my daughter, Samantha, for a raw, unscripted conversation about something we’ve both lived: the pressure to shrink.
To dim our light.
To tone it down.
To make ourselves smaller — so other people feel more comfortable.
We talk about what that’s looked like in our lives, how it shows up differently across generations, and what it actually costs — in confidence, creativity, connection.
And then we talk about what happens when we finally stop.
This isn’t just about speaking up.
It’s about taking up space. In rooms, in relationships, in the world.
If you’ve ever held back who you really are — this episode will hit home.
Press play. Then ask yourself: Where are you still shrinking? And what if you didn’t?
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