The Cloud Native Attitude • Anne Currie & Sarah Wells

GOTO - The Brightest Minds in Tech

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.
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Anne Currie - Co-Author of "The Cloud Native Attitude" & "Building Green Software"
Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant & Author & Author of "Enabling Microservice Success"
RESOURCES
Anne
https://bsky.app/profile/annecurrie.bsky.social
https://www.strategically.green

Sarah
https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjwells.bsky.social
https://www.sarahwells.dev
https://linkedin.com/in/sarahjwells1
DESCRIPTION
Sarah Wells and Anne Currie dive into “The Cloud Native Attitude” and uncover why it’s more than just using cloud infrastructure. It’s about breaking bottlenecks, embracing rapid change, and aligning the entire organization.
Anne reflects on how Kubernetes has risen since the book’s first edition, but the core principles remain. They discuss why CI/CD is key, how cloud native supports sustainability, and why true transformation demands more than just a lift-and-shift. The conversation wraps up with practical advice on identifying real bottlenecks and securing buy-in for a successful cloud native journey.
RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Anne Currie & Jamie Dobson • The Cloud Native Attitude
Anne Currie, Sarah Hsu, & Sara Bergman • Building Green Software
Sarah Wells • Enabling Microservice Success
Bill Gates • How to Avoid a Climate Disaster
Liz Rice • Container Security
Burns, Beda & Hightower • Kubernetes: Up & Running
Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies

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Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. Defining Cloud Native (00:04:25)

3. Fundamental architectural principles (00:09:40)

4. The importance of CI/CD (00:15:10)

5. Sustainability & Cloud Native (00:19:36)

6. The future of Cloud Native (00:29:07)

7. Getting started with Cloud Native (00:32:35)

8. Outro (00:38:16)