Episode 237- Gun Violence Propaganda Memorial Removed

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Gun Lawyer– Episode 237

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Gun rights, gun violence, gun safety, ATF, Biden administration, Trump administration, propaganda, criminal violence, firing squad, execution, New Jersey gun law, gun control, dental health, reciprocity, carry permit.

SPEAKERS

Speaker 2, Teddy Nappen, Evan Nappen

Evan Nappen 00:15 I’m Evan Nappen.

Teddy Nappen 00:17 And I’m Teddy Nappen.

Evan Nappen 00:19
And welcome to Gun Lawyer. So, the gun rights suppressionists, those that want to suppress our rights. You know, they have created propaganda terms that they put out there that the media readily utilizes. Not just the media, but also even the weaponized government agencies that were particularly weaponized under Joe Biden. One of their favorites, they have two favorite terms they love to use. One is “gun violence”. The other is “gun safety”. And they’ve hijacked gun safety to have nothing to do with safety.

Evan Nappen 01:04
So, when the anti-rights folks are out there talking about “gun violence”, what they really should be saying is criminal violence, or gun criminal violence, meaning criminal wrongdoing with guns. Violence that’s performed by criminals, but they don’t. They simply call it “gun violence” and then pass laws that infringe and suppress our gun rights, saying we have to do something about gun violence. And their solution, somehow, always includes disarming and taking away rights and then has no effect on actual criminals. So, what we see here is that there was a so-called gun violence memorial at the ATF headquarters. And, you know, under President Trump, ATF is being heavily defunded. They are taking away almost half a billion in their funding. Under Biden, of course, it was weaponized to be an even greater agency to suppress gun rights.

Evan Nappen 01:04
When they talk about “gun violence”, they try to categorize whatever laws they’re trying to pass as either trying to address gun violence or it’s a gun safety law. And of course, it’s just gun laws that suppress our gun rights that they put under these banners. So, when they talk about “gun violence”, it’s not gun violence that is a problem. I’m actually, in many cases, very much pro-gun violence. Particularly when you want to use violence from a gun to save your life. Okay? So, if I’m justified in using deadly

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force and I use my gun violently, that’s important. I’m using it for a lawful purpose. Gun violence is actually neutral, arguably. It can be good, or it can be bad.

Evan Nappen 03:23
And apparently, what ATF had was a Gun Violence Memorial. And what the Gun Violence Memorial that the Trump administration has officially removed this propaganda Memorial, and what it consisted of was 120 portraits that were hung during the Biden administration, of course. The most anti-gun rights president we’ve ever had, and the portraits were there to “honor” the memory of all victims of violent crime while at the same time preserving the rights of law-abiding Americans. (https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2025/05/05/gun-violence-memorial-at-atf-headquarters- removed-n1228510) But it was not. It was a propaganda display by ATF. Steven Dettelbach, the former director of ATF, who was appointed by Joe Biden, a dedicated anti-gun rights individual, created this memorial at the agency’s Northeast Washington headquarters last April to remind employees of the human toll of gun violence. The display included photos of police officers killed by gunfire and children slain in mass shootings, so-called mass shootings, in Newtown and in Parkland and other victims.

Evan Nappen 04:58
Of course, it really is not about the human toll of gun violence. It’s a human toll by criminals, criminals. But that’s not the purpose of this memorial. It’s to say guns are bad. Guns kill, and we have to ban guns, guns, guns, and that takes away our rights, instead of focusing on the wrongdoers. And this is now gone. It’s been taken down, and that is great, because we’re seeing all these propaganda efforts and other actions that were maximized to suppress our rights under Biden being dismantled by President Trump. It is great to see this. And really, the ATF, if it continues to exist at all, needs to focus its efforts on criminals.

Teddy Nappen 06:07
If I recall, didn’t the UN do a similar statue where it was.

Evan Nappen 06:12
Oh, well, the UN, is completely full of gun rights oppressors.

Teddy Nappen 06:21
Like guns they had seized, and they melted them down. It looked like a revolver.

Evan Nappen 06:25
Right. With a twisted barrel and all. And that’s so they can keep the populations around the world disarmed, so that vicious dictators and others, communists and what have you, that control the UN can maintain their power over people. Because the last thing they want is an armed populace that could oppose these evil leaders and their governments. So, of course, focus on disarmament in the world. Here you have the Biden administration not just doing so-called Gun Violence Memorial but focusing on law- abiding folks that they turn into criminals. Revoking licensed dealers for making one, one, simple paperwork error. You know, revoking their license. That’s been stopped by the Trump administration.

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Evan Nappen 07:30
And the other efforts to redefine all kinds of accessories and what have you into NFA categories. Just their entire war on our gun rights has stopped and is being dismantled. And here, if anything, this memorial is symbolic with its takedown of a new day, a new dawn, and how elections have consequences, and in this case, good ones for our rights. So, that’s what we’re seeing. And, you know, ATF should not be propagandizing and adopting the language of the gun rights oppressors in setting up memorials and other displays to promote suppression of a right. So, there you go. It’s a good thing to see, and they’re continuing in the re-establishment of what ATF should really be about, and not this weaponized agency against our rights.

Evan Nappen 08:46
Another interesting thing I want to point out is what occurred in South Carolina. In South Carolina, there’s a firing squad that botched the execution of a cop killer, Mikal Mahdi. (https://nypost.com/2025/05/08/us-news/south-carolina-firing-squad-missed-cop-killers-heart-report/) And this is interesting, because they had a firing squad of three people. The idea behind the firing squad is to shoot the person in the heart, and all three missed the heart. Apparently, only two rounds hit the person, and part of the rationale for the execution by firing squad is that it is something that should kill the person within 10 to 15 seconds.

Evan Nappen 09:47
In this case, the folks on this firing squad apparently don’t know how to hit the heart with their firearm. And what happened was only two of the three bullets, according to the NPR article, and this was also in the New York Post, as well. Only two, instead of three, hit the person. The bullets struck his liver and other internal organs, allowing his heart to keep beating, and he remained alive for roughly a minute. And during that time, he let out a number of moans and was in pain. Now, of course, you don’t have a lot of sympathy for a person who is convicted murderer, but still. The idea that a firing squad can’t shoot definitely says something about the state of our agencies and their ability to fire effectively their firearms. So, this is really ridiculous. Now this bad guy, who they killed, let me just mention this. He had killed a 56-year old, off-duty police officer, James Myers, who was shot at least eight times before his body was burned. So, like I said, not a whole lot of sympathy. But, of course, those that oppose the death penalty are using this to demonstrate and claim that it prolonged suffering of this individual.

Teddy Nappen 11:41
It kind of reminds me of, do you remember in the Sharpe series? It was the guy that was like Sharpe’s adversary.

Evan Nappen 11:49
Oh, yeah, what was his name? Sergeant hakesfield? Hicksville?

Teddy Nappen 11:59 Obadiah.

Evan Nappen 11:59
Obadiah, Obadiah, Obadiah Hakeswill. I can’t die.

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Teddy Nappen 12:04
I can’t die. And he’s after he’s shy. Now let me tell you, Sharpe, I can’t die.

Evan Nappen 12:12
Then they do a firing squad, and he actually doesn’t die till Sharpe pops him in the head, finally.

Teddy Nappen 12:19
Yeah, which, by the way. Why wouldn’t they just do that? Why would they line them up? Why not just have three of them just pointed directly at him?

Evan Nappen 12:27
Well and that was a more than three guys, even. And of course, they’re shooting at a guy who’s standing, and he shouldn’t be moving. So, you would think that would have done it. But, of course, the Sharpe series was great. That’s Bernard Cornwell’s series of novels. If you haven’t read them, they’re fantastic. And you know, Richard Sharpe is just a great character. It traces through the Napoleonic Wars, historical fiction, and that was his antagonist throughout the series that finally gets what’s coming to him.

Teddy Nappen 13:15
And if you can’t read, you can always watch the TV show with Sean Bean.

Evan Nappen 13:21
Sean Bean. It’s one of the few Sean Beans where he doesn’t die.

Teddy Nappen 13:27 I know.

Evan Nappen 13:28
He knows. Where he’s dying and is in whatever he does, he always ends up dying. Well, he didn’t die in the Sharpe series, and he did a great job of portraying Sharpe. So, I’d highly recommend watching the Sharpe series or reading or even the audio books are excellent of Bernard Cornwell. Bernard Cornwell has done tremendous historical fiction, not just the Sharpe series, but other aspects of development of Britain. The Last Kingdom also was written by him. With Uhtred. Our hero, Uhtred, right? Who was half Viking, half Anglo-Saxon. So, he’s pretty cool, you know? And the development of England. How England became finally, and yeah. Great, great stuff from Bernard Cornwell.

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Evan Nappen 16:30
Also, I want to mention our friends at the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs. They are the premier gun rights group in New Jersey. They are currently battling for our rights, fighting the gun rights oppressors, those that have passed laws infringing upon our Constitutional rights and trying to keep us victims instead of defenders. They’re in the federal courts, as we speak, challenging the so-called assault firearm law, large capacity magazine law and the Carry Killer bill, with all the ridiculous matrix of sensitive places and more. So, this is ongoing as we speak. Plus, they have a full-time paid lobbyist in Trenton, and as a member, you’ll get great emails, so you know what’s going on. Stay on top of the action as we fight for our rights in the state of New Jersey. The state of New Jersey is just out there trying to suppress us at every chance, and the Association is there defending our rights. You need to be a part of the Association. So, go to anjrpc.org, and you can join today. Be part of the solution.

Evan Nappen 18:04
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Teddy Nappen 19:28
Well, as we all know, Press Checks are always free. We were kind of talking about what the left always pushes their whole gun violence they try to establish. And it’s gotten to the point where they’re kind of just throwing random things at the wall, trying to get people to come to the side of gun control, because it’s a losing argument on them for years. I was flipping through The Trace, you know. Always good to keep an eye on your enemies.

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Evan Nappen 20:02
The Trace is the Bloomberg organization where they put out gun rights oppression propaganda, but they often will have stories that are important for us to stay on top of, as you do, Teddy. So that we know what the other side is trying to push. So, what did you see in The Trace?

Teddy Nappen 20:28
I found one thing that was quite strange. The Trace decided to argue that just, I can’t even say it with a straight face at this point, “Gun Violence Linked to Surprising Side-Effect: Poor Dental Health”. (https://www.thetrace.org/2025/04/gun-violence-dental-health-care-study/)

Evan Nappen 20:48
So, we’re back to gun violence, and now, well, of course, dental or dental health in one specific reason, and that is if you get shot in the teeth. If you’re shot in the mouth, then it’s not good for your dental health.

Teddy Nappen 21:02
This is what you do. After you go shooting, you know, you have to D lead your hands. You gotta take some of that stuff, put it on your toothbrush.

Evan Nappen 21:09
Right! You’ve done that. You and I both.

Teddy Nappen 21:12
Yeah. So, in the article, The Trace is talking about the first paper to really look at the connection between dental health and violence exposure. What were

Evan Nappen 21:24
Didn’t they say, be true to your teeth and they’ll never be false to you or something. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. How do they okay? So there, this is just more BS from them. First of all, whatever their statistics say, they’re not distinguishing between what is correlation and causation, two different things. So, let’s hear it. How did they statistically go at this? I can’t wait. Go ahead. I’m sure it’s just the correlation has nothing to do with causation. You can’t link the causational effect. I’m sure it’s Oh, explain.

Teddy Nappen 22:02
Oh, it’s brilliant. So, first of all, the author, the lead study author, who just so happens to be the New Jersey Gun Violence Research Center.

Evan Nappen 22:11 Oh, how convenient.

Teddy Nappen 22:12
How convenient. A little bias there. So, it was out of the study where they took from 100 largest cities in America from 2014 to 2022, 20,000 neighborhood census tracks, and what they determined is they found that one point of increased shootings led to 0.06% increase in edentulism or dental loss,

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Evan Nappen 22:43
Yeah. How is their causation there? There isn’t. It’s just statistical nonsense.

Teddy Nappen 22:49
Yeah. And they also try to argue that gun violence, where it creates high stress, communities of higher rates of causes, communities’ higher rates of diabetes and food

Evan Nappen 23:00
Do you know what causes high stress? Gun rights oppression. I think gun rights oppression probably leads to bad dental care and dental issues, because there is super high stress there for anyone who lives in Jersey and wants to be remain a law-abiding gun owner.

Teddy Nappen 23:15
They towed out all the other ones where it’s gun violence exposure, effect residents overall wellbeing, increases the risk for suicide, depression and use of mental health services. And if you actually go into the paper, first of all, 100 large cities. Okay, let’s see. What are the main problems and issues of high stress going on in major inner cities? And then tell me what it what would cause that. Secondly, they even is, this is, this is a part right here. They said fatal and non-fatal shootings, they counted for, for American violence. So, what’s a non-fatal shooting? Just some random target practice target shooting? They didn’t really specify. And then here is house and they didn’t, yeah, of course. And here’s the real thing, several indicators for communities of disadvantage, theoretically related to the community health of gun violence, were included, using annual estimates from the ACS, percentages in families of poverty, percentages of family households, a single family head, percentage of people with labor force or unemployed, number of households receiving services due to these call COVID, between several of these items with a Wade community disadvantaged score was created by the creating a factor of poverty, single head families and unemployment. Basically, they cooked the books.

Evan Nappen 24:52
They cooked the books. But why are they doing this? Why? I’ll tell you why. Because from the get go, they’ve wanted to get medical and firearms connected, and you see the progress they’ve made. Early on, they got pediatricians on board and the AMA on board. And that’s why, when you go to the doctor and they ask do you have a firearm, and then they try to make it a health issue when it’s not. Then they can try to go at funding for health issues and use gun rights oppression to go at healthcare that you get. And if they can get dentists now on board, if they can get the dental industry on board, then your dentist will next be asking whether you have a gun. How do you have it stored? It becomes a record that you’re a gun owner, and this is what they try to accomplish by using medical to attack and suppress our gun rights. This is the ploy. This is their tactic. Now they want to bring the dentist, as they have pediatricians and doctors through the AMA. Now they want to stretch it into this. Ultimately, I’m confident that’s what they want to do. So, don’t be surprised, at some point, when you go into your dentist and your dentist is suddenly going to talk to you about guns, because somehow that relates, which it doesn’t, of course, to dental health.

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Teddy Nappen 26:31
And just to be clear, there’s a study by the Delta Dental, 30% of Americans fail to brush their teeth at least two times a day, with 2% admitting they don’t brush at all, but and which accounts for that 1% differential for the community. So, it’s all BS. That entire study was nothing but hogwash.

Evan Nappen 26:56
Well, I don’t know if any ammo company is going to come out with fluoride bullets. Maybe that’s one of the things. Make sure you have the fluoride in the gunpowder or something.

Teddy Nappen 27:06
It’s a Heidi gun. That’s also a toothbrush.

Evan Nappen 27:10
There you go, right? So, it’s just.

Teddy Nappen 27:14
Well, you got pen guns. Now you have brush guns.

Evan Nappen 27:17
Toothbrush guns. Well, you know, one of the ways they make weapons out of toothbrushes is if you hold the toothbrush over a flame, a lighter or a flame, and you pull each end, it’ll become a point. Then break off in the center, and you literally can make the toothbrush into a pointy shiv by cooking it over a fire and stretching it till it pulls apart. And that is actually a prison technique to turn a toothbrush into a stabby. Stabby. So, there you go. Yeah, crazy stuff.

Evan Nappen 27:58
Well, I have got some ask Evans. Thank you, Teddy for that. Another exposure of gun rights suppression propaganda, which is if it wasn’t because of the sneaky plans that really are behind it, it would be laughable. But it’s not laughable, because it’s part of their ongoing efforts to suppress our rights. So, this is from Jerry. Jerry says, Hi, Evan, I’m looking to build a NJ “other” firearm myself. I visited a local gun shop and was going to order the receiver that I wanted. Once I mentioned I was going to build an other, they stopped and said that was illegal. I’m not allowed to build an other myself. Can I build a rifle but not an other? And that I have to have it stamped and registered with the state police as well. And they added that they can build it for me, but to do it, I don’t have it stamped. Is it legal? Is this true?

Evan Nappen 29:02
So, what New Jersey number one requires all firearms to have serial numbers. And if you’re going to build a gun, you’re going to have to build it on a receiver that has a serial number. The problem with others is that others that are permitted go back to a state police document where they said that the Troy A4 and the Dark Storm 15, they named those guns by name, are Jersey legal. Then we went through a period where we had the pistol brace that was integral to them being legal suddenly made illegal. But you know, federally, where Biden changed their definition after almost a decade to somehow turning these guns into SBRs. New Jersey frowns upon gun building. If you build a gun, they can try to claim

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you’re a manufacturer, even if you build one gun. If you do a build, it has to be on a receiver that you acquired lawfully from a dealer. If you can figure it as an other, you’re not necessarily making one of the named guns, because it won’t have that name.

Evan Nappen 30:16
And what happens is we get into situations where we have to educate the prosecutors, and it’s been some tough fights explaining that the gun as configured is a lawful other. They don’t understand others, and they just see it and believe it’s an assault firearm, or believe it’s just an unlawful gun, or calling it a ghost gun, even with a registered receiver. It’s just a mess. Frankly, my advice is, do not build your own gun in Jersey. You’ll avoid a lot of trouble and problems. I understand the fun for sure, building your own gun, and the pride of having a gun that you made. But you’re potentially exposing yourself to having to become a test case. So, I can’t recommend it. And it gets more complicated with others than standard rifle building, even with the properly registered and acquired parts. Under no circumstances, should you 3D print something with no serial numbers in New Jersey. Or do an 80 percenter with no serial numbers. Those are just flat out prohibited. Even just having the metal or the parts or the programs to do it is a crime in and of itself in Jersey. They’re trying to make the ghost gun ban so expansive over so many different things that it can turn unsuspecting law-abiding citizens into criminals. So, beware.

Evan Nappen 31:54
I have another letter here from Alan who says regarding shooting a BB gun inside my home, legally. Hello, Evan. I’m a fan of the show. I’m also a New Jersey resident. I have a question for you. I have one of those cheap Daisy BB rifles. I can’t resist the joke. Don’t shoot your eye out. Okay, I said it. It’s like, dun, dun, dun. You gotta finish it off, right? That shoots approximately 350 feet per second. Would it be considered legal to set up a target inside my own home and shoot a BB gun if none of the projectiles make it outside the home and there’s a safe backdrop. Thanks for any information you could provide.

Evan Nappen 32:39
So, here’s the deal. There is no state New Jersey law that prohibits the firearm discharge. What you have to be careful of is firearm discharge laws that are local. And by checking, make sure there’s no local ordinance against firearm discharge, then there’s no state law that would prohibit you from safely firing an air gun, BB gun in your home. For that matter, even a regular firearm. Because it has to do with discharge laws. And discharge laws are currently the domain, so to speak, of the locality where you live that has to do with outdoor shooting or indoor shooting. In New Jersey, air guns are considered firearms. So, be careful.

Evan Nappen 33:38
Additionally, we have this week’s GOFU, which is the Gun Owner Fuck Up. And the reason we talk about GOFUs is because these are mistakes people make that are very costly, that you get to learn for free and not make the mistake. And this week’s GOFU concerns reciprocity. Please, please, please. If you’re coming into New Jersey, know that New Jersey recognizes no other state’s license. New Jersey has zero recognition reciprocity of any other state’s license. Period. They don’t recognize any other state’s license. So, if you’re coming into New Jersey and you want to carry your gun, you need to have a New Jersey carry permit. If you don’t have that, then you can’t carry in New Jersey. Now, if you’re

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going to take your New Jersey licensed gun out of state. Well, that’s a different story. You’ve got to make sure they recognize your New Jersey carry or you have some other license that allows you to carry outside that jurisdiction. Don’t be a GOFU and carry, particularly in New Jersey, without a New Jersey carry permit.

Evan Nappen 34:59
This is Evan Nappen and Teddy Nappen reminding you that gun laws don’t protect honest citizens from criminals. They protect criminals from honest citizens.

Speaker 2 35:12
Gun Lawyer is a CounterThink Media production. The music used in this broadcast was managed by Cosmo Music, New York, New York. Reach us by emailing [email protected]. The information and opinions in this broadcast do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state.

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