S15 E1: EB Rebel I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee podcast

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The opening paragraph of Justin Pearson’s first book “From The Graveyard of the Arousal Industry” tells a story of how, when his mother had just given birth to him, that another new mother asked if she wanted to swap babies – her Frank for Justin. I’m not sure that JP himself is sure of the truth of that story, but hey, we live in a world where fewer and fewer people, certainly in government, media and other esteemed corporations, give fewer fucks about whether they tell the truth, so I kinda feel that it’s my turn to say that doesn’t matter if this story is true or not. Whatever…it almost feels like it could have been a pre-cursor or metaphor for his life where weird shit – good, bad, absurd and indifferent and everything else you can define as weird - often finds a way to his front door. There are just way too many stories for even my brain to compute, but I guarantee that reading each of his four books will make you look at your own life, and, afterwards, perhaps the temptation to buy that latest AI infested fridge freezer appliance might be met with a little less enthusiasm. Or perhaps you’ll just think Fuck That and crack on and buy it. Who knows, the world is very unpredictable. Talking of which, for me it’s the unpredictability of what’s gonna emerge from Justin’s open-minded creativity that gives him such a unique, positive energy. You can’t predict what he’ll be cooking up next and who with – maybe he can’t either perhaps because that creativity comes from instinct - but you know that it’s going to be exciting and you know that you will want to experience it, be part of it, whatever. Dig in to this with one of the world's most subversive creatives and wonderful humans. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S15 E1: EB Rebel 52:03

26 days ago52:03

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https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E10: Neeraj Kane 1:16:25

5 weeks ago1:16:25

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I remember starting an Arts Lab a few years ago – just before Covid started actually - with a group of people here in London, based roughly around the counter-culture arts labs of the 1960’s – Jim Haynes was the main guy behind that movement. The idea was to bring together people who wanted to challenge the corporitisation of the arts, draw, socialise, talk about culture, put on cultural events or fuck around. I wanted to be a part of it but I didn’t know why. I mean had terrible insecurities about my ability to draw, sketch or paint…even as a classically trained cellist I had terrible imposter syndrome about being a musician. Probably explains why I petulantly packed it in… At the first Arts Lab meeting, It was Youth from Killing Joke who said something that has always stuck with me and that was “the first thing you need to do is call yourself an artist, forget everything else”. I struggled with this – particularly with the whole identity of who I was. I certainly didn’t feel like a creative. Even now doing my own graphic design, I feel like a bit of a fake – especially when I compare myself to others - but I am getting better. Of course, Youth was right. Allowing yourself that self-affirmation is really the start of your self-belief journey. Neeraj Kane is so synonymous with, and important to, the hardcore scene and I was excited to find out if he has faced these issues and how he has navigated them through his life. His musical footprint can’t be overstated. Every band he’s been in - like The Hope Conspiracy, The Suicide File, Hesitation Wounds, Godcollider - has produced music that is so incredibly potent and addictive in its structure and melody and the absolute precision of its attack. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E9: Paula Lombardo & Dave Lombardo (Venamoris) 1:02:27

12 weeks ago1:02:27

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Allen Saunders was an American writer and cartoonist who once said “Life is what happens to us while we are making other plans”. It was later popularised by John Lennon in his song, Beautiful Boy. Saunders first said this in 1957 and I guess how I see this is that many of us still spend time planning ahead, creating goals and objectives, trying to weed out uncertainty, only for that uncertainty to keep coming back, those unexpected things to happen which can derail our plans – either for better or for worse. If I think of a few things that have really changed my life (outside of my kids), they came about by chance, I couldn’t have predicted them or planned for them. They just happened. Like when I first discovered punk rock – when I was 11 or 12, my mum and dad’s neighbour, with no real prompting, handed me a compilation with Judy Is A Punk on it and that was it – the Ramones changed my life….and not always for the good my dad would have said Or how my parents starting to get ill a few years ago was a completely unexpected catalyst for me to get back into playing the cello. Never thought it would happen. Serendipity, synchronicity, karma, energy…. how these things work together to open our mind to new things, to new ways of doing things, to new people, new ideas, really interests me, and only makes me firmer in the belief that our mindset is the most important asset we have for grasping these encounters and shaping who we are. So, with their excellent second album as Venamoris imminent – it’s called To Cross or To Burn - I was thrilled to welcome Paula and Dave Lombardo and they very kindly indulged me in my incoherent ramblings. This is a really beautiful chat about their own tales of taking chances, the unexpected, self-belief, instinct, and their life journeys both individually and together. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E8: Gail Ann Dorsey 54:03

16 weeks ago54:03

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Whilst conducting my meticulous research for Gail….I was taken back to 1980 - my year of transition that was painful, perplexing, exciting, scary – a tussle between my heavily Top of The Pops Top 40 oriented collection, my classical cello playing and a new, emerging, Through The Looking Glass world of punk, post-punk and hardcore. Not easy bedfellows for 12 year old me, I can tell you. One of the songs in that struggle was Xanadu by Olivia Newton-John and Electric Light Orchestra. I think that the new punk crowd that I was gravitating towards would have sent me much further than Coventry had they known that this record was in my collection, such were the no cross-genre rules. So what does this rather tedious story have with today’s episode? Well, it’s as tenuous as you’ll have come to expect. After growing up adoring her music, Gail holds the accolade of and standing on stage with Olivia Newton-John and a huge orchestra playing Xanadu in front of thousands of genuine fans. This connection, however tenuous, feels in some way serendipitous, and actually rather glorious in a way that only music can be. This is just one part of an incredible, pioneering – and I don’t use that word loosely - life journey that’s led to three solo albums and a whole raft of collaborations with people like Lenny Kravitz, Gwen Stefani, Tears For Fears, Gang of Four, Boy George, The The and, of course…. David Bowie. Gail Ann Dorsey - a wonderful songwriter, composer, bass player with a voice to die for and wonderful human. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E7: Sophie Jamieson 1:04:21

18 weeks ago1:04:21

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Before I started this podcast, I was kinda rudderless. Didn’t know what I was doing with my life. When this idea came up, the feeling was “Who will want to listen to me talking about mindset, about my worldview, blah blah blah”… I was dragged into doing it…my self-confidence and self-belief were pretty low. I’ve talked to amazing artists, many of whom, with incredible bravery, bare the inner sanctuary of their own mind through their music and, in particular, their lyrics. So, here we are: 4 years into this podcast and I’ve learnt so much about myself. it’s been incredibly cathartic for me to have these conversations, not least it’s helped me face my fears and it’s forced me to face myself. There are still those moments when the self-belief looks at me and goes “Really?’. I think that the world is incredibly complex, uncertain and volatile. Definitive answers are so much harder to come by, reality is challenged, answers to big questions cannot be condensed into one sentence soundbites, which is what our feudal tech overlords demand from us. I know that there may never be answers to some questions, where things are out of my control, where I need to challenge an outdated definition of perfection, yet accepting this in how I live my life can be challenging, especially as I get older and I become more risk averse in some aspects of my life, yet paradoxically willing to take more risk in other aspects. As I write this, Sophie Jamieson is about to release her second and utterly beautiful album called I STILL WANT TO SHARE, which, to me, captures this complexity and uncertainty of our world and pitches it against our innate human needs for simplicity and certainty. Our chat here about her album and her life raises some fascinating observations. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E6: Tashi Dorji 55:57

23 weeks ago55:57

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Over the last few years, I’ve been heavily influenced by some of the work that my partner has been doing around decolonisation, particularly in the field of yoga. It’s led me to think about how this applies to music and my own relationship to music. I’ve realised that my own classical cello training from way back when, the exams I did, the framework that I was expected to adhere to, were a western, colonised version of what the instrument represents. Whilst it gave me a lot of technical abilities that have stayed with me through years of inactivity with the instrument, the restrictions of this approach has actually followed me through life and it has had some detrimental effects and I noticed this when I picked it up again a few years ago. I’m still thinking within the confines of that framework. But, when I first heard the music of cellists like Abel Selaocoe and the music of Tashi Dorji, I heard an unrestricted redefinition of their instruments and what their music can represent and a mind that’s free from so much of the colonised, capitalistic world. It felt like their stream of consciousness was washing over me. They have been inspirational for me to try harder to overcome the obstacles that I have with reconnecting with the cello and make it into an instrument that works for me, not for the establishment. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E5: Simonne Jones 1:12:34

28 weeks ago1:12:34

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When I got into thinking how mindset and, in particular, how an experimental mindset was fundamental to navigating a complex and volatile world, I was intrigued with the way scientists approached their work – for example, not being tied to goals, or pre-determined outcomes and analysing the data from their experiments – and how this could be the blueprint for our own life journey – living your life as a series of experiments, using the findings from these experiments or experiences to take to the next experience. This then led me to thinking that musicians have long lived with that uncertainty and volatility that many more people with hitherto linear lives are now facing, so I should explore the role that all the characteristics of an experimental mindset has played in their lives. And here we are with this podcast! Ok, so what’s the link to Simonne Jones? Well, she is a musician, producer, composer, scientific researcher, humanitarian, visual artist, multi-instrumentalist, public speaker, and since 2021, a Sneaker Pimp (I wish I’d been a Ramone but, hey, wrong time, wrong place and all that. I’m not bitter). To me, this is a fascinating, multi-hyphenate, polymathic approach to living life, one very much in keeping with the multi-stage, multi-experience lives that we are now seeing much more of, effectively usurping the traditional three stage lives of education, work, retirement. It was a privilege to listen to Simonne's amazing journey and fascinating take on the world through the lens of all her experiences and attributes. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E4: N8NOFACE 54:28

29 weeks ago54:28

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I’m always trying to work out why certain artists hit me as soon as I hear them. There are some that are a mystery as to why the fuck I like them. Like, why am I still in love with Anastasia’s Welcome To My Truth after all these years? But I can tell you what I love about N8NOFACE's @N8NOFACE music – it’s primal, raw, subversive, underground, heavy, manic, chaotic, stuttering, exciting, surprising, and propelled massively by so many influences and musical styles that you could easily spend a day amusing yourself reading all these descriptions of his music like synth punk, techno punk, punk-hop, cyber chiptune punk, rave punk, fucking psychosomatic firestarter punk, I dunno. I made up a lot of those. Maybe being so clear about what it is that I adore about his music will help me understand why adore it. I mean, I have a few ideas…. His LP, L’s Up, is 20 minutes and 10 tracks worth of all of the above and more. I think it’s his best yet of what is an enormous output, particularly over the last 7 years or so. NOTE: Since we recorded this episode, he has released Crime Partner….and boy, is that another scintillating piece of work, again showing another departure from previous sounds His story, to me, is one of never giving up, of the power of just putting your stuff out there, no matter how long it takes you to do it, of just giving it a go and keeping on fucking trying to find your niche, find your tribe of people who love what you do. Doesn’t take a genius to work out that Nate is one of those artists that just hit me and I’m really excited to try to understand what’s made him the person he is and how he navigates through the world. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E3: Jennifer Clavin 1:06:13

30 weeks ago1:06:13

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I’m really into this notion of music being your friend for life and how certain songs represent a particular point in your life, good or bad. There’s one song that sticks in my mind which represents such a dark time in my life. And now, looking back at it, I can see how much I’ve changed and sometimes it’s hard to play that song. I’ve played and sang other composer’s songs in front of people - let’s just say that it was a few years ago – and I know that if I sang them now, it would be like getting into a time transporter, but the part I’m missing is writing those songs and how I’d feel if I’d written them and gone through the massive personal evolution and identity shifts of the last few years? The other thing I’ve found about shifting identity is presenting your new self, presenting things you’ve not done before, stuff you’ve not talked about before. It’s interesting how some people will be used to the “old” version of you and how they react to the “new” version of you – or perhaps that should read the “real” version of you. And whether the people, whose reaction to all of these things we fear, do actually give a fuck and how we are perceived is all in our mind. Moreover, why should I care? I went through all of this when I started doing this podcast, started writing, started doing graphic design…ok, so I basically get this whenever I start anything new! Jennifer Clavin has written and released music over the last 20 years or so, with Mika Miko and Bleached, that is raw, beautifully exhilarating and has that ability to take you to your own time and place – I find this so powerful - and is now steadily releasing a bunch self-recorded, stripped down, incredibly personal, lo-fi songs as “dear francis”, the latest evolution in an emotional musical story. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E2: Leigh Heggarty 1:59:30

31 weeks ago1:59:30

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One of the pages on Leigh Heggarty's website is called “Me Me Me, it’s all about me”. A cursory look through this and the other pages would most clearly identify someone who has lived a substantial part of his life very much NOT promoting Me Me Me, rather being very self deprecating and perhaps uncomfortable talking about himself or what he has achieved in life. This all sounds very familiar to me, I’ve often used self deprecating “humour” to lighten situations where I’ve felt I’m a bit of an imposter. I’m tons better but it’s a battle…. And it is a battle, but a battle for what? It makes me wonder about all the characteristics that make up our very unique personality and why some traits are stigmatised and others – like confidence, self-belief - are seen as the symbol of success, whereas others such a shyness even introversion are not. Is society at large’s definition of success fucked up? Please write your answer in no more than 8,000 chapters or just one word. Anyway, you wouldn’t notice any of the shyness of childhood when he steps on stage to pick up his guitar - well, perhaps a slightly bashful smile and wave to the crowd - to play with Ruts DC, a band that has already secured a most wonderful legacy and continues to do so with each gig they play and each piece of music that they release. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S14 E1: Kishi Bashi 48:42

32 weeks ago48:42

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As someone who has played the cello in my much more youthful days and is ineffectively trying to resurrect past glory, I fully appreciate Kishi Bashi's love of the violin and the way he uses that instrument in his compositions. You can literally hear it cascading through every release he has done – from the Room for Dream EP to the epic music and soundtrack for his film Omoiyari. He is an epic multi-hyphenate - songwriter, singer, multi-instrumentalist, film maker, father, husband who has used his creativity, his energy and whole being to produce art that, well, makes you pay attention through the exquisiteness and purity of the songwriting and its humanity. There have been so many things that have fascinated me, intrigued me, filled me with respect and admiration, not least the ever-present authenticity in his work but also how that work conjures such strong emotions in me. Even though I find myself getting emotional at the smallest things these days – it’s getting ridiculous quite frankly – and even more so with some of the horrific acts of prejudice, greed and narcissism that structurally pervade our society - there are still only a few songwriters that can do this. Now, he’s back with what I think is his musically most diverse (and that’s saying something) LP to follow up the stunning Omoiyari. It’s called Kantos and it was really exciting to hear about it all and to delve into some of the mindset topics that I’ve noticed present in his work, like emotional intelligence, curiosity, resilience and adaptability. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S13 E10: Neil Cowley 54:45

33 weeks ago54:45

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I’ve long thought about our individual persona or personas and this idea of ever evolving identities …for example, people who have work and non-work personas: the arsehole in work, nice as pie out of work; the surprising competitive aggression at the work social bowling alley do, the extroverted party goer (ok, so there might be some substance impact for that one) – kinda like Henry the mild mannered janitor morphing into Hong Kong Phooey (does anyone remembers that show?!) What does this mean for the authentic you? Who actually are you? I think I’ve come to the conclusion that the times I’ve felt uncomfortable with the way I was behaving, was more to do with dissatisfaction with the environment and company I was keeping rather than myself and my identities, so eventually I’ve taken action to change them. This led me to start thinking about why, for example, institutions, companies, communities, social networks seem to exhibit their own personality and employees, members or whatever can start to take on that personality and behaviours, which might be at loggerheads with their own individuality. How malleable is our individuality? How do we unearth that authenticity, when we strip away the masks and show ourselves devoid of external influences? And do these scenarios exist in bands? And especially in artistic or creative collaborations, which is really the very essence of individuality coming together, how do we as collaborators come together to achieve common goals? Neil Cowley has just released his first record (although it hadn't been released when we recorded this) with his two longstanding friends and cohorts who had so much acclaim as The Neil Cowley Trio prior to its hiatus 7 years ago. Their reunion and reconnection, and the making of this record, perhaps provides some answers to my most mind churning questions! https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S13 E9: Nicolette Vilar 52:35

35 weeks ago52:35

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Over the last few years, I’ve been trying to work out why certain things in my life have turned out the way they have. Friendships has been a particular thing that’s been on my mind, in particular why I’ve tended to let some slide. I’ve had occasions where I’ve reconnected with lost friends and family and realised just how important they are. Having said that, I do think that the way we handle friendships is kinda different to that of my parents generation, when it was definitely friendships for life. More people live a nomadic life these days, so community is less of a thing, and also I’m much more aware of my own identity shifting as I get older and what’s important to me changing and I think this impacts who comes on our own journey with us. I think it makes you realise how powerful your real friendships are. Nicolette Vilar has dedicated her life to the creative arts as a fabulous graphic and visual arts designer and also the singer in Go Betty Go where her close, tight friendships with the band members have been forever, endured the rocky road of life and have, I think, been instrumental in the band reforming and recording their soon to be released EP called Black and Blue. The title hints at the bruises, yet it’s self-care, time, friendships – and our old, great mate, music - that help you heal. #musicpodcast #experimentalmindset https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste…

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S13 E8: Tara Rez 58:56

35 weeks ago58:56