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Before You Cancel, Just Ask
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In this episode of Ideas for Impact: Disruption for Good, co-hosts Joanna Buczkowska-McCumber and Deborah Haust sit down with political scientist and sustainability leader Jenny Morgan to explore the nuances behind her new book, Cancel Culture in Climate. Together, they unpack what’s really happening when conversations about climate shift from constructive to combative—and why that matters for the future of innovation, sustainability, and leadership.
Jenny shares stories from her career, including her time at Microsoft and her deep involvement in the B Corp movement, offering a unique vantage point on how corporate and individual actors alike are navigating increasingly polarized conversations around climate action. She reminds us that solving environmental and societal issues requires more than just good intentions—it demands thoughtful language, a willingness to stay in dialogue, and a commitment to curiosity over judgment.
The episode explores:
- How climate cancel culture shows up in real-world systems—from tech to activism to boardrooms.
- Why empathy and open communication are critical tools in the sustainability space.
- The dangers of oversimplification and ideological rigidity in a world that requires complexity and nuance.
- Tangible ways businesses and individuals can stay engaged, even when the narrative gets difficult.
- The power of words in shaping policy, public sentiment, and pathways to climate justice.
Whether you’re a founder, a policymaker, a sustainability professional, or simply someone trying to make sense of the climate conversation in 2025—this episode offers insight, grounding, and inspiration to keep asking the right questions.
Tune in for a bold, honest, and deeply human conversation about what it means to lead with impact in an era of division—and how, sometimes, the most powerful move is to listen first.
00:58 – Meet Jenny Morgan: Cancel Culture in Climate
02:20 – Jenny’s Journey and Insights
11:13 – The Language of Climate and Sustainability
22:58 – Empathy and Communication in Climate Action
27:16 – Practical Steps for Climate Impact
30:36 – Looking Forward to 2025
Grab a copy of Jenny's book https://www.cancelcultureinclimate.com/book
Visit us at www.ideasforimpactagency.com
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