Clarity, Confusion, Unity: Unpacking the conclave’s code words

Inside The Vatican

Welcome to America magazine’s Conclave Podcast. Our editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope.

In today’s episode, the team discusses:

- The controversial presence at the pre-conclave meetings of Cardinal Becciu, convicted of embezzlement, and Cardinal Cipriani, who was sanctioned by the Vatican for alleged sexual abuse

- The topics emerging in the cardinals’ secret meetings

- How “unity” and “clarity” are becoming buzzwords for reversing Francis’ style of governance

This episode features:

- Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video

- Colleen Dulle, co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast

- Gerard O’Connell, Vatican correspondent and co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast

- Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast

- Zac Davis, director of digital strategy and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast

- Sam Sawyer, S.J., America’s editor in chief

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Links from the show:

- ⁠What Pope Francis taught us: Church teaching finds clarity and power in acts of mercy⁠

- ⁠Cardinal Becciu will not participate in conclave following dispute over right to vote⁠

- ⁠As Cardinals Prepare to Elect a Pope, One Motto Is ‘Unity.’ That’s Divisive.⁠

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