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Outside the Ivory Tower: Connecting Practice and Science — Why Human-Centered Cybersecurity Needs Both | OWASP AppSec Global 2025 Pre-Event Keynote Conversation with Kate Labunets | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

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During the upcoming OWASP Global AppSec EU in Barcelona, Kate Labunets, a cybersecurity researcher focused on human factors and usable security, takes the stage to confront a disconnect that too often holds the industry back: the gap between academic research and real-world cybersecurity practice.

In her keynote, “Outside the Ivory Tower: Connecting Practice and Science,” Kate invites practitioners to reconsider their relationship with academic research—not as something removed from their daily reality, but as a vital tool that can lead to better decisions, more targeted security programs, and improved organizational resilience.

Drawing from her current research, Kate shares how interviews and surveys with employees reveal the hidden motivations behind the use of shadow IT—tools and technologies adopted without formal approval. These aren’t simply acts of rebellion or ignorance. They reflect misalignments between human behavior, workplace needs, and policy communication. By understanding these mindsets, organizations can move beyond one-size-fits-all training and begin designing interventions grounded in evidence.

This is where science meets practice. Kate’s work isn’t about generating abstract theories. It’s about applying research methods—like anonymous interviews and behavior-focused surveys—to surface insights that security leaders can act on. But for this to happen, researchers need access, and that depends on building trust with practitioners.

The keynote also raises a critical point about time. In industries like medicine, the gap between a published discovery and its application in the real world can be 15 years. Kate argues that cybersecurity faces a similar delay, citing the example of multi-factor authentication: patented in 1998, but still not universally adopted today. Her goal is to accelerate this timeline by helping practitioners see themselves as contributors to science—not just consumers of its outcomes.

By inviting companies to participate in research and engage with universities, Kate’s message is clear: collaboration benefits everyone. The path to smarter, more human-aligned cybersecurity isn’t gated behind academic walls. It’s open to any team curious enough to ask better questions—and brave enough to challenge assumptions.
GUEST: Kate Labunets | Assistant Professor (UD1) in Cyber Security at Utrecht University | https://www.linkedin.com/in/klabunets/

HOSTS:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber] | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

SPONSORS

Manicode Security: https://itspm.ag/manicode-security-7q8i

RESOURCES

Kate's Session: https://owasp2025globalappseceu.sched.com/event/1v86U/keynote-outside-the-ivory-tower-connecting-practice-and-science

Learn more and catch more stories from OWASP AppSec Global 2025 Barcelona coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/owasp-global-appsec-barcelona-2025-application-security-event-coverage-in-catalunya-spain

Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverage

Want to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Want Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us

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During the upcoming OWASP Global AppSec EU in Barcelona, Kate Labunets, a cybersecurity researcher focused on human factors and usable security, takes the stage to confront a disconnect that too often holds the industry back: the gap between academic research and real-world cybersecurity practice.

In her keynote, “Outside the Ivory Tower: Connecting Practice and Science,” Kate invites practitioners to reconsider their relationship with academic research—not as something removed from their daily reality, but as a vital tool that can lead to better decisions, more targeted security programs, and improved organizational resilience.

Drawing from her current research, Kate shares how interviews and surveys with employees reveal the hidden motivations behind the use of shadow IT—tools and technologies adopted without formal approval. These aren’t simply acts of rebellion or ignorance. They reflect misalignments between human behavior, workplace needs, and policy communication. By understanding these mindsets, organizations can move beyond one-size-fits-all training and begin designing interventions grounded in evidence.

This is where science meets practice. Kate’s work isn’t about generating abstract theories. It’s about applying research methods—like anonymous interviews and behavior-focused surveys—to surface insights that security leaders can act on. But for this to happen, researchers need access, and that depends on building trust with practitioners.

The keynote also raises a critical point about time. In industries like medicine, the gap between a published discovery and its application in the real world can be 15 years. Kate argues that cybersecurity faces a similar delay, citing the example of multi-factor authentication: patented in 1998, but still not universally adopted today. Her goal is to accelerate this timeline by helping practitioners see themselves as contributors to science—not just consumers of its outcomes.

By inviting companies to participate in research and engage with universities, Kate’s message is clear: collaboration benefits everyone. The path to smarter, more human-aligned cybersecurity isn’t gated behind academic walls. It’s open to any team curious enough to ask better questions—and brave enough to challenge assumptions.
GUEST: Kate Labunets | Assistant Professor (UD1) in Cyber Security at Utrecht University | https://www.linkedin.com/in/klabunets/

HOSTS:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber] | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

SPONSORS

Manicode Security: https://itspm.ag/manicode-security-7q8i

RESOURCES

Kate's Session: https://owasp2025globalappseceu.sched.com/event/1v86U/keynote-outside-the-ivory-tower-connecting-practice-and-science

Learn more and catch more stories from OWASP AppSec Global 2025 Barcelona coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/owasp-global-appsec-barcelona-2025-application-security-event-coverage-in-catalunya-spain

Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverage

Want to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Want Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us

  continue reading

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