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“These Aren’t Soft Skills — They’re Human Skills” A Post–Infosecurity Europe 2025 Conversation with Rob Black and Anthony D'Alton

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Title: “These Aren’t Soft Skills — They’re Human Skills”

A Post–Infosecurity Europe 2025 Conversation with Rob Black and Anthony D'Alton

Guests
Rob Black
UK Cyber Citizen of the Year 2024 | International Keynote Speaker | Master of Ceremonies | Cyber Leaders Challenge | Professor | Community Builder | Facilitator | Cyber Security | Cyber Deception
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-black-30440819/
Anthony D'Alton
Product marketing | brand | reputation for cybersecurity growth
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonydalton/

Hosts
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine
Website: https://www.seanmartin.com

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder, CMO, and Creative Director at ITSPmagazine
Website: https://www.marcociappelli.com

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Episode Sponsors

ThreatLocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974

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Yes, Infosecurity Europe 2025 may be over, but the most important conversations are just getting started — and they’re far from over. In this post-event follow-up, Marco Ciappelli reconnects from Florence with Rob Black and brings in Anthony D’Alton for a deep-dive into something we all talk about but rarely define clearly: so-called soft skills — or, as we prefer to call them… human skills.

From storytelling to structured exercises, team communication to burnout prevention, this episode explores how communication, collaboration, and trust aren’t just “nice to have” in cybersecurity — they’re critical, measurable capabilities. Rob and Anthony share their experience designing real-world training environments where people — not just tools — are the difference-makers in effective incident response and security leadership.

Whether you’re a CISO, a SOC leader, or just tired of seeing tech get all the credit while humans carry the weight, this is a practical, honest conversation about building better teams — and redefining what really matters in cybersecurity today.

If you still think “soft skills” are soft… you haven’t been paying attention.

Keywords: Cybersecurity, Infosecurity Europe 2025, Soft Skills, Human Skills, Cyber Resilience, Cyber Training, Security Leadership, Incident Response, Teamwork, Storytelling in Cyber, Marco Ciappelli, Rob Black, Anthony Dalton, On Location, ITSPmagazine, Communication Skills, Cyber Crisis Simulation, RangeForce, Trust in Teams, Post Event Podcast, Security Culture

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Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from Infosecurity Europe 2025 London coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosec25

Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverage

Want to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Want Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us

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Title: “These Aren’t Soft Skills — They’re Human Skills”

A Post–Infosecurity Europe 2025 Conversation with Rob Black and Anthony D'Alton

Guests
Rob Black
UK Cyber Citizen of the Year 2024 | International Keynote Speaker | Master of Ceremonies | Cyber Leaders Challenge | Professor | Community Builder | Facilitator | Cyber Security | Cyber Deception
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-black-30440819/
Anthony D'Alton
Product marketing | brand | reputation for cybersecurity growth
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonydalton/

Hosts
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine
Website: https://www.seanmartin.com

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder, CMO, and Creative Director at ITSPmagazine
Website: https://www.marcociappelli.com

___________

Episode Sponsors

ThreatLocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974

___________

Yes, Infosecurity Europe 2025 may be over, but the most important conversations are just getting started — and they’re far from over. In this post-event follow-up, Marco Ciappelli reconnects from Florence with Rob Black and brings in Anthony D’Alton for a deep-dive into something we all talk about but rarely define clearly: so-called soft skills — or, as we prefer to call them… human skills.

From storytelling to structured exercises, team communication to burnout prevention, this episode explores how communication, collaboration, and trust aren’t just “nice to have” in cybersecurity — they’re critical, measurable capabilities. Rob and Anthony share their experience designing real-world training environments where people — not just tools — are the difference-makers in effective incident response and security leadership.

Whether you’re a CISO, a SOC leader, or just tired of seeing tech get all the credit while humans carry the weight, this is a practical, honest conversation about building better teams — and redefining what really matters in cybersecurity today.

If you still think “soft skills” are soft… you haven’t been paying attention.

Keywords: Cybersecurity, Infosecurity Europe 2025, Soft Skills, Human Skills, Cyber Resilience, Cyber Training, Security Leadership, Incident Response, Teamwork, Storytelling in Cyber, Marco Ciappelli, Rob Black, Anthony Dalton, On Location, ITSPmagazine, Communication Skills, Cyber Crisis Simulation, RangeForce, Trust in Teams, Post Event Podcast, Security Culture

___________

Resources

Learn more and catch more stories from Infosecurity Europe 2025 London coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/infosec25

Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-and-cybersecurity-conference-coverage

Want to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage? Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Want Sean and Marco to be part of your event or conference? Let Us Know 👉 https://www.itspmagazine.com/contact-us

___________

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