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L&D Expert Julie Dirksen Exposes the Real Reason Your Training Flops

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Have you ever created a training, only to realize it didn’t have the impact you had hoped? In this episode of the Learning for Good podcast, we explore why training alone often fails to drive lasting behavior change.
My guest Julie Dirksen, author of "Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change," discusses the limitations of training when systemic and external factors are barriers to change. Julie emphasizes the importance of understanding behavior at an individual level.
We talk about how asking good questions can help identify where learners are and how to meet their needs, whether through education, persuasion, confidence building, or reinforcement.
Changing culture may require investments beyond training. This episode provides a framework for nonprofits to evaluate training effectiveness and foster impact through systems-level interventions.
▶️ L&D Expert Julie Dirksen Exposes the Real Reason Your Training Flops
▶️ Key Points:
02:24 Julie Dirksen’s introduction and background
06:45 Using the elephant metaphor to describe decision-making09:49 Why training often gets blamed for failures
12:20 Systems view and considering external factors that impact training success
18:54 The challenge of making equitable decisions without group-level data
21:46 Knowing where learners are at on the "change ladder"
24:22 The importance of understanding learner motivations, pain points, and system influences on behavior
Resources from this episode:
"Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change” by Julie Dirksen
Design for How People Learn” by Julie Dirksen
Join the Nonprofit Learning and Development Collective: https://www.skillmastersmarket.com/nonprofit-learning-and-development-collective
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Learning for Good is the podcast for nonprofit leaders seeking practical L&D solutions. Hosted by Heather, an experienced consultant, we dive into leadership development, instructional design, change management, and staff management strategies tailored to nonprofit organizations.
Discover how to implement impactful learning solutions, foster belonging, and influence senior leaders. Each episode provides the tools you need to confidently navigate high-level conversations and drive meaningful change within your organization.
Let’s create lasting impact through innovative L&D solutions!
Produced by Ideablossoms

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Have you ever created a training, only to realize it didn’t have the impact you had hoped? In this episode of the Learning for Good podcast, we explore why training alone often fails to drive lasting behavior change.
My guest Julie Dirksen, author of "Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change," discusses the limitations of training when systemic and external factors are barriers to change. Julie emphasizes the importance of understanding behavior at an individual level.
We talk about how asking good questions can help identify where learners are and how to meet their needs, whether through education, persuasion, confidence building, or reinforcement.
Changing culture may require investments beyond training. This episode provides a framework for nonprofits to evaluate training effectiveness and foster impact through systems-level interventions.
▶️ L&D Expert Julie Dirksen Exposes the Real Reason Your Training Flops
▶️ Key Points:
02:24 Julie Dirksen’s introduction and background
06:45 Using the elephant metaphor to describe decision-making09:49 Why training often gets blamed for failures
12:20 Systems view and considering external factors that impact training success
18:54 The challenge of making equitable decisions without group-level data
21:46 Knowing where learners are at on the "change ladder"
24:22 The importance of understanding learner motivations, pain points, and system influences on behavior
Resources from this episode:
"Talk to the Elephant: Design Learning for Behavior Change” by Julie Dirksen
Design for How People Learn” by Julie Dirksen
Join the Nonprofit Learning and Development Collective: https://www.skillmastersmarket.com/nonprofit-learning-and-development-collective
Was this episode helpful? If you’re listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, follo

🎙️This podcast is proudly produced by Ideablossoms — the mighty team behind some of the best mission-driven podcasts out there. If you're looking to launch a podcast or get help managing, editing, and repurposing your episodes, listen up:

🌟 Get started at ideablossoms.com or reach out to Rosa at [email protected] to grab an exclusive 30% off your first invoice!

--
Learning for Good is the podcast for nonprofit leaders seeking practical L&D solutions. Hosted by Heather, an experienced consultant, we dive into leadership development, instructional design, change management, and staff management strategies tailored to nonprofit organizations.
Discover how to implement impactful learning solutions, foster belonging, and influence senior leaders. Each episode provides the tools you need to confidently navigate high-level conversations and drive meaningful change within your organization.
Let’s create lasting impact through innovative L&D solutions!
Produced by Ideablossoms

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