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“Banning Said Achmiz (and broader thoughts on moderation)” by habryka
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It's been roughly 7 years since the LessWrong user-base voted on whether it's time to close down shop and become an archive, or to move towards the LessWrong 2.0 platform, with me as head-admin. For roughly equally long have I spent around one hundred hours almost every year trying to get Said Achmiz to understand and learn how to become a good LessWrong commenter by my lights.[1] Today I am declaring defeat on that goal and am giving him a 3 year ban.
What follows is an explanation of the models of moderation that convinced me this is a good idea, the history of past moderation actions we've taken for Said, and some amount of case law that I derive from these two. If you just want to know the moderation precedent, you can jump straight there.
I think few people have done as much to shape the culture [...]
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Outline:
(02:45) The sneer attractor
(04:51) The LinkedIn attractor
(07:19) How this relates to LessWrong
(11:38) Weaponized obtuseness and asymmetric effort ratios
(21:38) Concentration of force and the trouble with anonymous voting
(24:46) But why ban someone, cant people just ignore Said?
(30:25) Ok, but shouldnt there be some kind of justice process?
(36:28) So what options do I have if I disagree with this decision?
(38:28) An overview over past moderation discussion surrounding Said
(41:07) What does this mean for the rest of us?
(50:04) So with all that Said
(50:44) Appendix: 2022 moderation comments
The original text contained 18 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
August 22nd, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation
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What follows is an explanation of the models of moderation that convinced me this is a good idea, the history of past moderation actions we've taken for Said, and some amount of case law that I derive from these two. If you just want to know the moderation precedent, you can jump straight there.
I think few people have done as much to shape the culture [...]
---
Outline:
(02:45) The sneer attractor
(04:51) The LinkedIn attractor
(07:19) How this relates to LessWrong
(11:38) Weaponized obtuseness and asymmetric effort ratios
(21:38) Concentration of force and the trouble with anonymous voting
(24:46) But why ban someone, cant people just ignore Said?
(30:25) Ok, but shouldnt there be some kind of justice process?
(36:28) So what options do I have if I disagree with this decision?
(38:28) An overview over past moderation discussion surrounding Said
(41:07) What does this mean for the rest of us?
(50:04) So with all that Said
(50:44) Appendix: 2022 moderation comments
The original text contained 18 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
---
First published:
August 22nd, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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