#154 Be Curious - Dr Susanne Evans, David Lee and Me

Life Beyond The Numbers

"If I'm working with somebody and they don't do their agreed upon "homework" and I'm telling myself a story like, Oh, they're not motivated. They're lazy. They don't take it seriously. And instead of coming from that judgey point of view, asking, so what happened? And it turns out they didn't understand what the assignment was or whatever. Get curious, not furious. Get curious instead of judging." David Lee

Dr Susanne Evans, David Lee and I tackle the topic of motivation. We share their own examples, interpreting our motivations for our own personal behaviours and habits. We also explore motivation in a broader workplace context, including during change in an organisational setting. We emphasise the individuality of motivation, the need for leaders to understand team members' unique motivating factors, and the importance of cultivating a curiosity-driven rather than judgment-driven mindset in organisational settings.

Dr Susanne Evans is an organisation change consultant, trainer, coach and researcher on a mission to change the way that transformations are managed in organisations. She founded Feldspar Consulting in 2007 to help her clients lead change in a more human, effective way. As well as writing and speaking about organisation change, Susanne hosts open storytelling workshops, supporting organisations and individuals in writing a compelling story for themselves, and she is the host of the popular ChangeStories podcast.

David Lee is a coach, consultant, workshop facilitator, keynote speaker, and author, who loves creating a win/win/win relationship between people and the organizations they work for. He helps leaders and leadership teams learn how to become "people whisperers", and by doing so, increase their ability to make their organization THE choice for "A List Talent" and inspire the best in their people.

Connect with Susanne

On LinkedIn

Through her website: Feldspar Consulting

Listen to Change Stories podcast

Connect with David

On LinkedIn

Through his website Human Nature at Work

Resources Mentioned:

The video version on YouTube

Quiet by Susan Cain

Atomic Habits by James Clear

Dark Horse: Achieving Success Through the Pursuit of Fulfillment by Todd Rose & Ogi Ogas

The School of Life

Change Anything by Vital Smarts

Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin

Drive by Daniel Pink’s

Dr. John Launer on ChangeStories Podcast

David Rock SCARF Model