Hailey Mitsui - "Contemplative Peacemaking in Turbulent Times"

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This week on the podcast, our own Hailey Mitsui shares her story of moving from burnout and compassion fatigue toward the more sustainable, more transformative way of contemplative peacemaking.

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Hailey Mitsui - "Contemplative Peacemaking in Turbulent Times"

Mending Divides

published 5 years ago

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This week on the podcast, our own Hailey Mitsui shares her story of moving from burnout and compassion fatigue toward the more sustainable, more transformative way of contemplative peacemaking.

75 episodes

#Religion #Christianity #Global Immersion

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Circles and Pollination: A New Way to Engage Conflict — John Paul Lederach 1:09:19

19 days ago1:09:19

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What if peacemaking meant moving into people’s lives instead of waiting for them to come to the table? In this profound conversation, renowned peacemaker Dr. John Paul Lederach shares how presence, story, and deep listening can transform conflict—and why this “circulation” approach looks a lot like Jesus.02:29 John Paul Lederach’s journey with conflict transformation 07:48 How do we approach conflict today? 10:01 Humiliation and dehumanization 12:20 The way of Jesus with conflict 16:01 A story from Maze prison in Belfast 19:25 What formation is needed? Looking at Defensiveness 24:52 The Pause of Curiosity 26:16 The Vocational Pause 30:22 Fixing conflict vs. wounded companions 36:58 This moment in time? 42:29 Hope in the Everyday and the Local 46:28 Circulatory Approach 48:24 Learning from insects 55:31 Deepening in circles vs. linear “fixing 59:49 Jesus’ circulatory “along the way” ministry 01:02:23 Final encouragement 01:07:49 Closing reflection…

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Ending Conflict Begins with Listening — Robi Damelin 46:20

8 weeks ago46:20

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What if the path to peace begins with listening? In this story-driven conversation, Robi Damelin—a bereaved Israeli mother and peace activist—shares how, after losing her son to a Palestinian sniper, she chose to seek connection with those she was taught to see as enemies. Her journey is not just about Israel and Palestine—it’s about all of us, and the conflicts we each face. Discover why listening across divides may be the first courageous step toward ending conflict and reclaiming our shared humanity.04:26 Robi Learning to Survive as a Child 08:07 Memorial Day Rememberance 10:50 Revenge Motivating the Violence in Gaza 13:26 Pursuing Survival Together 17:44 Impact on Universities 21:39 Respect for Our Other 23:55 Columbia University Story 29:22 Al Jazeera Interview 32:08 Hoping Beyond Boundaries 34:54 Hope and Resilience 38:46 United States 43:05 close Mentioned in this episode: Become an Ember EMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides. Donate - Embers…

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From Othering to Belonging: A Radical Reimagining — Ben McBride 50:00

13 weeks ago50:00

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The dominant story isn’t working. In this bold conversation, Ben McBride challenges Christians to confront power, discomfort, and exclusion—and reimagine a faith big enough for belonging. Learn why he says we must be hard on systems, soft on people, and always building a bigger table. 00:25Iintro 01:34 Leaning into discomfort 06:10 Self-compassion, or hope that’s larger than our fears 09:24 Jer remembers similar experience with his dad 11:20 The need for a new story 15:28 The perceived righteousness of the dominant Christian story 17:52 Gospel of a dead Jesus 22:00 Personal Suffering and America’s Decline 26:22 Relationship with the powerful 36:00 Relationship with the suffering 38:42 The pace of transformation 42:51 Relationship with people in pain 45:25 Challenges engaging all sides at once 48:02 End Mentioned in this episode: Listen to Navigating Deep Disagreements with Loved Ones Navigating Deep Disagreements with Loved Ones (Everyday Peacemaking Podcast) Become an Ember EMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides. Donate - Embers…

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Conflict Is Inevitable, Division Is a Choice — Nina Barnes 1:00:00

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Conflict can strengthen relationships—if handled well. Nina Barnes shares why avoiding conflict causes more harm, how to tell the truth with kindness (not just niceness!), and why “agreeing to disagree” isn’t always the answer. Learn strategies for turning conflict into deeper connection. This episode kicks off the newly relaunched Mending Divides Podcast , where Dr. Jer Swigart has unfiltered conversations about conflict—what it is, why it matters, and how to navigate it well—with those who think deeply about it. Chapters 01:00 Start 01:34 Conflict is inevitable 04:43 Conflict styles 06:36 Conflict as an opportunity 09:15 Suspicion in the Absence of Conflict 10:53 Conflict is modeled for us 15:48 Nina’s Direct Conflict Style 16:50 Niceness vs. Kindness 21:17 Truth-telling with Kindness: What’s the Goal? 26:30 Getting Practical - How to do this 32:54 Agree to Disagree? 36:56 Dehumanization is “the line” 42:53 A Real Life Story 50:56 Invitations 58:32 Closing Guest bio: Nina Barnes Nina Barnes is a Spiritual Director, the Founder of Transforming Journey, and a featured faculty member of Global Immersion’s Leadership Cohort. She is a seasoned leader who spends her life accompanying Reconciling Leaders as they grow their cultural awareness, resilience, and prophetic witness. Nina's Website Mentioned in this episode: Become an Ember EMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides. Donate - Embers…

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Trailer: Introducing the Mending Divides Podcast 2:03

21 weeks ago2:03

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Welcome to the Mending Divides Podcast , formerly known as the Everyday Peacemaking Podcast ! Join us for a brand new series of unfiltered conversations about conflict and how we navigate it. In a world familiar with conflict, Mending Divides offers a fresh perspective. Hosted by Dr. Jer Swigart, this Global Immersion podcast delves into the conflicts we all face through insightful conversations with those who deeply understand them. This isn’t just about prescribing peace-building techniques. Mending Divides invites you into the lives, stories, and practices of individuals shaping our understanding of conflict resolution. Through their journeys, we discover what it means to confront our own conflicts head-on. Expect candid dialogues that: Challenge assumptions and explore diverse paths to peace. Shed light on the roles of religion, culture, and biology in conflict resolution. Share stories of resilience, creativity, and courage that inspire hope. Join us as we explore the many dimensions of conflict and peace. Follow us on Instagram @globalimmerse and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Look out for our first episode coming later this month!…

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Season Finale: The Power of Remembering 34:40

31 weeks ago34:40

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In this final episode of the 2024 season of the Everyday Peacemaking Podcast, hosts Osheta Moore and Jer Swigart reflect on the past year, emphasizing the importance of radical reflection over resolutions. They explore the Hebrew concept of ‘zakar,’ which means to remember and retell a story vividly. Jer shares an impactful experience from a war-torn village in Burma, while Osheta recounts her journey of shedding commitments and rediscovering her creativity. Together, they invite us to engage in self-reflection, identify pivotal moments from 2024, and look towards 2025 with hope and renewed commitment to Peacemaking. 03:01 Jer remembering 10:58 The Power of the Resurrection 17:05 Osheta remembering 22:45 Navigating the discomfort 25:26 Stones of remembrance 27:28 Invitation to remember PRO-HUMAN Apparel - Get your PRO-HUMAN shirt, hoodie, hat or more in our online store at https://www.bonfire.com/store/global-immersion/ Want a free PRO-HUMAN t-shirt? Make a donation of $100 or more or start a recurring monthly gift of $25 or more by December 31, and we’ll send you a free PRO-HUMAN t-shirt! Donate at globalimmerse.org/donate Learn more about us: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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The Election’s Over. The Peacemaking Continues. 43:27

35 weeks ago43:27

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In this episode, hosts Osheta Moore and Jer Swigart explore what peacemaking looks like in the aftermath of the election. They unpack how different communities are processing the results and the impact on marginalized groups, emphasizing that there’s no single “right” way for a peacemaker to use the ballot. With honesty and grace, they wrestle with the best way to engage with those we’re in relationship with—especially those who voted differently. Grounded in the teachings of Jesus, Osheta and Jer navigate calls to action, the challenge of loving enemies, and the need to confront harmful policies. They remind listeners that “it’s not the end of democracy” and invite them to embrace radical, subversive peacemaking. This episode challenges you to reflect deeply on your role in mending divides and building the beloved community—because the work doesn’t stop with an election. 00:39 Setting up the conversation 02:17 Osheta’s Family Conversation 02:58 Impact of Elections on Different Communities 04:27 Jer’s Initial Reflections and Grounding Reminders 08:26 Navigating the Frenzy 12:06 The Role of Friendship in Peacemaking 13:41 Loving our enemy 19:39 The Responsibility of White Peacemakers 23:44 Distinct Gifts and Graces 26:07 If you voted for Trump... 30:56 The Urgency of Peacemaking 36:42 Different kinds of fear 40:30 Jesus’ Strategy PRO-HUMAN Apparel - Get your PRO-HUMAN shirt, hoodie, hat or more in our online store at https://www.bonfire.com/store/global-immersion/ Want a free PRO-HUMAN t-shirt? Make a donation of $100 or more or start a recurring monthly gift of $25 or more by December 31, and we’ll send you a free PRO-HUMAN t-shirt! Donate at globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com Photo by Vlad Tchompalov on Unsplash…

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Election Day and Beyond: Embracing Belovedness 37:48

39 weeks ago37:48

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In the uncertainty of an imminent election, Osheta and Jer offer a hopeful alternative to getting swept up in the anxious swirl of this divisive political moment. They invite us to receive the gift of our own belovedness and then extend this recognition to others. They offer this practice as a vision toward fostering the beloved community from within these politically charged times. Through personal reflections, theological insights, and practical strategies, they emphasize the importance of embracing our intrinsic worth as beloved individuals. Episode highlights include insights on beginning our day as the beloved, input on self-regulation in the midst of triggering moments, and an invitation to be anchored as pro-human peacemakers. 02:18 Belovedness as un-american 04:27 Jesus’ belovedness 13:15 Owning your belovedness 18:02 Microdosing belovedness 23:31 Belovedness on election day 25:51 Jesus’ strategy 27:38 The belovedness of our enemy 30:28 Belovedness beyond the ballot 31:38 Pastoral wisdom for election day Apply for the 2025 Leadership Cohort by November 15, 2024 at globalimmerse.org/cohort Pick up some Pro-Human apparel: bonfire.com/store/global-immersion Learn more about us: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Compassion Fatigue & Discernment: What’s Mine to Do? 32:35

42 weeks ago32:35

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Autumn is here, and with it come plenty of starts and a constant barrage of asks to give, volunteer, and show up for meaningful causes. In this episode, Osheta and Jer explore the reality of compassion fatigue and how to discern ‘what’s mine to do.’ With personal anecdotes, they discuss the pulls on our empathy, managing the feeling of being stretched like Gumby, and the importance of grounding oneself spiritually to make wise decisions. From reflective daily practices to the Ignatian Examen, this conversation provides practical insights on maintaining peace and showing up authentically during this busy season. 02:10 Osheta’s compassion fatigue 05:29 Jer feels like Gumby 08:55 Osheta burns out 10:33 Doing the deeper work 14:38 Three things to look for 18:10 Mentorship 19:56 Socialized as a woman 21:35 Practice: Three questions 23:11 What’s mine to do? 25:33 Osheta does the examen 30:32 Closing Sign up for the cohort interest list or RSVP for an info session at globalimmerse.org/cohort Pick up some Pro-Human apparel: bonfire.com/store/global-immersion/ Learn more about us: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Failing Forward: Peacemaking in a World Afraid of Making Mistakes 29:31

47 weeks ago29:31

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In this episode, hosts Osheta Moore and Jer Swigart delve into the realities of failure and mistakes as crucial elements of our growth as peacemakers. They explore the anxiety around mistakes, the societal pressure to avoid them, and the importance of embracing mistakes as pathways to improvement rather than perfection. The discussion includes insights from poet Zedeka Poindexter and emphasizes the need for courage, humility, teachability, and generosity in both making and receiving mistakes. This liberating conversation invites listeners to reframe their approach to failure as a way to engage more deeply in the journey of peacemaking. 01:45 Spark from Zedeka’s Poetry 03:35 Navigating Divides and Fear of Mistakes 07:39 Learning Through Trial and Error 10:52 Insights from Ted Lasso 13:13 Infrastructure of self-reflection 13:49 Creating space for mistakes 18:47 Courage, Humility, and Teachability 24:43 How to receive an apology 27:08 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement Zedeka Poindexter www.zedekapoindexter.com Hear her Peach Cobbler piece - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwYFMtUD70w Brenda Salter McNeil’s new book, Empowered to Repair: https://www.saltermcneil.com/empowered-to-repair Photo by Pawel Janiak on Unsplash Learn more about the Leadership Cohort at globalimmerse.org/cohort Sign up for the cohort interest list or RSVP for an info session at globalimmerse.org/cohort Learn more about us: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Embracing Loneliness and Finding Your People 29:44

50 weeks ago29:44

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In this episode, Osheta and Jer reflect candidly on the common experience of loneliness, recognizing that it’s always a part of the path of peacemaking. Reflecting on their recent Deep South immersion with the 2024 Leadership Cohort , they share their journey from isolation to discovering a sense of companionship and learning how to be lonely together. Through theological reflections and personal stories, they explore the significance of befriending loneliness, prioritizing companionship over community, and finding comfort in prayer practices. They encourage us all to acknowledge our own loneliness without anxiety, while seeking a way forward together with others on this journey. 01:44 shared experience of loneliness 04:38 befriending loneliness 11:08 finding your prayer practice 13:50 being lonely together 19:09 companionship more than community 22:02 gentle invitations Learn more about the Leadership Cohort at globalimmerse.org/cohort Sign up for the cohort interest list or RSVP for an info session at globalimmerse.org/cohort Learn more about us: globalimmerse.org Photo by hanya kumuh on Unsplash Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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An Attempted Assassination and America’s Lethal Fixation on Violence 32:51

1 year ago32:51

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This episode was a spontaneous conversation between hosts Osheta Moore and Jer Swigart reflecting on the recent assassination attempt on former President Trump. They discuss their immediate reactions, the importance of maintaining a peaceable presence, and how to navigate violent political climates as peacemakers. The conversation emphasizes the need for creating safe spaces, fostering sacrificial relationships, and building communities committed to repair. Diving deep into personal anecdotes, theological reflections, and practical advice, this episode offers a specific call to action to move beyond social media posts and instead, to gather around tables and lead through these tumultuous times. 00:41 Reacting to the Assassination Attempt 04:52 Personal Reflections and Boundaries 09:06 The Role of Peacemakers in Turbulent Times 16:50 Political violence 19:41 Embracing Fear and Love 20:07 Starfish vs. Spider Leadership 21:12 The Illusion of Eliminating Ideologies 24:17 Building Communities of Peacemakers Learn more: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Raising Peacemakers: Parenting in a Divided World 34:38

1 year ago34:38

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In this episode, Osheta and Jer delve into the intersection of parenting and peacemaking. They grapple with the temptation of fixing vs. being, naming the lure of project-oriented parenting and peacemaking. The high stakes of Christian parenting in particular are addressed, opening up a discussion about when we might need to reparent ourselves rather than focusing solely on the needs of our children. Unique practices in each of their households are shared, culminating in an invitation to parents to find their own authentic style of peacemaking as the greatest gift they can give their children. The conversation offers valuable insights for parents and peacemakers alike, exploring how to nurture children in a way that allows them to grow into the everyday peacemakers our divided world so badly needs. 02:42 Fixing vs being 06:03 How do you want to be remembered by your kids? 07:31 The problem with project-oriented peacemaking 14:19 The stakes of Christian parenting 18:18 Lowering the stakes 20:35 Reparenting ourselves vs. Parenting our kids 22:43 Household practices 23:55 Impatience with our own formation 25:50 Bringing kids into a story 28:06 Shielding kids from mistakes and failure 30:19 Integrity in our own style of peacemaking 33:17 closing Learn more: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Our Fabricated Fables and the Humanizing Truth 35:59

1 year ago35:59

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Jer kicks off the episode with a story about a recent encounter with his own stereotypes at a Guns to Gardens event in Bend, Oregon. This experience led him to question the fables he’s fabricated about “those people.” They wrestle with stereotypes as organized lies that shape the way we see others, and explore how to balance this awareness with genuine caution or wisdom in potentially unsafe situations. The conversation delves into broader themes of confronting stereotypes, the importance of proximity, and the interior transformation needed to see others as beloved. Listen for insights on disarming both physical weapons and the stereotypes that arm our imaginations. 02:38 Guns to Garden event context 05:15 Becoming a gun decommissioning site 10:07 The chopped up SUV 16:15 The interior work 17:33 How do we discern? 21:31 The Man or the Bear 24:31 Stereotypes 28:53 Practical ideas to get into proximity 34:30 announcements and credits Learn more: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Brace for Impact: Preparing for Triggering Spaces 31:13

1 year ago31:13

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In this episode, Osheta processes a challenging experience of racism and her struggle to respond as a peacemaker when she was already depleted. The conversation explores the importance of self-care, acknowledging our triggers, and building an ‘infrastructure of support’ to remain grounded amidst everyday conflicts and tension. They emphasize the persistent presence of the Holy Spirit with us, the need for proactive preparation for difficult spaces, listening to our bodies, and how community is foundational to everyday peacemaking. 01:04 Osheta’s Shares an Encounter with Racism 07:46 Discerning when to walk away 10:06 Protecting the “other’s” belovedness 14:45 infrastructure of support 17:03 Preparing for difficult spaces 18:36 listening to our bodies 22:30 Resilience through the Spirit of God in us 27:18 A Gentle Invitation Learn more: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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The Practice of “Yes, and:” Embracing Resurrection Life Everywhere 34:37

1 year ago34:37

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In this episode, Osheta and Jer explore hope and its paramount importance in Everyday Peacemaking, inspired by this season of Eastertide. They delve into how hope, seen as both a skill and a practice, is essential in looking for and participating in ‘little resurrections’ amidst life’s challenges and divisions. Through personal stories, they illustrate the power of adopting a ‘Yes, and...’ posture, which acknowledges difficulties while remaining open to the ever-present possibility of resurrection breaking forth in daily life. The conversation culminates with a call to embrace the ‘resurrection impulse’ as Everyday Peacemakers, seeking out and nurturing moments of new life and hope in both the mundane and the monumental. 00:40 Reflecting on Eastertide 08:04 Little resurrections 09:57 Story of counter-protestors 22:04 Community and interior formation 27:03 Moving closer 31:11 Low stakes moments 32:55 Closing Invitation Learn more: globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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[Virtual Immersion] Facing Despair, Fear, and Anger Together - Mercy Aiken and Bruce Fisk 53:28

1 year ago53:28

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Our next Virtual Immersion conversation into the Israel/Gaza war wrestles with what to do as peacemakers when we drift into despair, give in to fear, or move in our anger from righteous indignation to dehumanizing rage. Jer Swigart is joined by Mercy Aiken and Bruce Fisk from the Network of Evangelicals for the Middle East (NEME), who are navigating these realities while fighting like peacemakers for an end to this suffering. The discussion is anchored in their personal stories of awakening to the injustices and complexities of the crisis, centered on the transition from being pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian to adopting a pro-human perspective. The conversation delves into the costs of taking such a stance, highlighting the personal, professional, and emotional tolls and the importance of solidarity and relationship-building in pursuing peace. The dialogue shifts to confronting feelings of despair, the challenges of maintaining hope, and the complexities of managing anger without dehumanizing the other, all towards growing our resilience and deepening our souls for sustained practice. 00:00 Opening Context 06:53 Mercy and Bruce Introductions 09:57 Waking up to a Larger Story 20:29 Pro-human is not neutral 22:39 The high cost of leaving a Pro-Israel Christianity 32:18 Despair, Fear, and Anger 40:58 What to do with despair 46:10 Anger The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse, and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers embedded within this war's trenches. Support our work at globalimmerse.org/donate Learn more about NEME's work: neme.network…

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[Virtual Immersion] Peacemaking with Palestinian Youth - Mahmoud Subuh 59:17

1 year ago59:17

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This powerful next conversation in our Virtual Immersion series is with Mahmoud Subuh, a Palestinian Muslim Peacemaker waging peace in the midst of the Balata refugee camp in the West Bank, currently under complete siege. Mahmoud shares openly about the immense challenges of both raising his own kids as well as working with Palestinian youth amidst the heightened tensions and trauma caused by living in one of the most densely populated and heavily fortified refugee camps. He discusses his efforts to guide them toward healing, advocating for reconciliation over revenge. This conversation grapples candidly with the question: Is it possible to cultivate the next generation of peacemakers in an environment overshadowed by violence? The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse, and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers embedded within this war's trenches. Support our work at globalimmerse.org/donate…

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From Gumbo to Gratitude: A Peacemaking Journey at the Table 36:36

1 year ago36:36

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Jer and Osheta discuss the table as a vital tool in mending divides. Osheta sets the stage with a poignant tale of gumbo-making that fostered connection, empathy, and a sense of belonging to one another. The duo unpacks practical strategies, emphasizing the essence of simplicity in hosting, the significance of thoughtful recipe choices, and the role of pacing for restorative conversations. They extend an invitation for listeners to participate in Maundy Thursday by hosting an intentional meal and proposing a meaningful red beans and rice recipe out of solidarity with our global kin. 03:34 Osheta’s Story 10:18 Maundy Thursday 11:33 Jer Responds 14:27 The Pace at the table 20:45 Recipes 22:59 Red beans and rice 24:58 Jer’s comfort food 28:38 Sending guests out into the world 34:39 Closing Osheta's Red Beans and Rice Recipe: https://bit.ly/oshetasredbeansandrice Listen to the first episode about the power of the table in everyday peacemaking: globalimmerse.org/blog/powerofthetable/ Gaza Ceasefire Pilgrimage: globalimmerse.org/blog/gazaceasefirepilgrimages/ CCDA Holy Week Devotional: bit.ly/CCDAGIholyweekdevotional Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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[In Conversation] The Practice of Lament: Drawing Near to God in a Broken World - with Alejandra Ortiz 37:31

1 year ago37:31

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Theologian and peacemaker Alejandra Ortiz joins Osheta and Jer for a profound discussion on the practice of lament as central to our formation as Everyday Peacemakers. They explore how lament gives space to grieve the brokenness of the world. Alejandra shares a rich theological perspective illustrated with stories from her personal practice of lament. The conversation illuminates how lament fosters honesty before God, cultivates hope, and deepens our participation in community. The trio delves into lament’s biblical roots, its significance in personal and communal healing, and practical ways to integrate it into everyday life, even amid challenges like maintaining mental health. Ultimately, this episode encourages you to embrace lament as a transformational practice that brings you closer to God, deepens your compassion, and equips you for the realities of Everyday Peacemaking. This episode was recorded live on March 6. 05:54 Define Lament 07:43 How to cultivate space for lament 11:53 Lament as a community practice 16:03 Ideas for practices 20:07 Not a quick fix, but a way to sit in the pain 23:21 Lament and mental health 27:11 Having someone walk with you through lament 30:52 How to start 31:31 If you’re exhausted Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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The Power of the Table in Everyday Peacemaking 37:07

1 year ago37:07

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In this episode of the Everyday Peacemaking Podcast, hosts Osheta Moore and Jer Swigart discuss the centrality of the table as the most important furniture used in the work of peacemaking. Jer shares an incredible story from his recent trip to the front lines of the conflict in Burma, where a shared meal revealed the belovedness of former enemies. Osheta helps apply Jer’s story to the everyday tables we are a part of, encouraging us to use what we have, lower our expectations, embrace a slower pace, and make room for one another. They also reflect on the role of the interpreter at the table, the person helping heart-level communication happen. The conversation culminates with an invitation to consider what our “other” might need to hear that disarms their walls and makes space for our shared humanity to come forward. Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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Moving Beyond 2024 Resolutions to Radical Self-Reflection 45:44

1 year ago45:44

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As we step into 2024, Osheta and Jer invite us beyond New Year’s resolutions into a journey of intentional self-reflection. In a year already marked by “anti” sentiments, they aim to shift their focus towards what they aspire to be “for”. Embracing the belovedness of each person, they discuss loving their enemies and the necessary shifts in their lives to better love their neighbors. They emphasize the importance of remaining curious about others and acknowledge the challenge of letting go of relationships and spaces that no longer serve their formation as peacemakers. Join us as we embark on making peacemaking a habit in 2024. Learn more and participate in the Gaza Ceasefire Pilgrimages this Lent at gazaceasefirepilgrimage.com Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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[In Conversation] Anger or Love as our Peacemaking Fuel for 2024? - with Ben McBride 49:22

1 year ago49:22

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Peacemaker Ben McBride joins Jer for this soul-stirring conversation about the interior formation of peacemakers in 2024. With the humanity and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. as a springboard, they grapple with the idea that the social transformation we’re dreaming of will not be realized in our lifetime. They wrestle with the stark contrast of peacemaking work fueled by anger versus animated by love and candidly consider who our “enemy” really is. Finally, Ben gives a prophetic invitation to us all in response to the question: What kind of peacemaker do you want to be in 2024? Ben's website: benmcbride.com Purchase Troubling the Water: benmcbride.com/the-book Follow Ben on Facebook: facebook.com/benjmcbride Follow Ben on Instagram: instagram.com/officialbenmcbride/ Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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[Virtual Immersion] Christ in the Rubble - Live from Bethlehem - Munther Isaac 18:59

2 years ago18:59

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This Advent, while global Christians prepare to commemorate the arrival of the Prince of Peace, our Palestinian kin in Gaza suffer unthinkable violence. Their cries for deliverance, echoing those of two millennia ago, seem to be falling unheard in the United States. To see their pain and hear their cries, US Christians must move beyond information to transformation...from webinar to worship. On December 23, the special worship gathering "Christ in the Rubble" was live-streamed from Christmas Lutheran Church in Bethlehem, featuring this sermon by Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac. Central to this liturgy of lament is the prophetic message that if Jesus was born today, he would be born "under the rubble." [Co-organized by Red Letter Christians, Christ at the Checkpoint Conference, Bethlehem Bible College and Churches for Middle East Peace; supported and sponsored by kindred organizations]…

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[Virtual Immersion] Rabbi David Jaffe 47:24

2 years ago47:24

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In our ongoing Virtual Immersion series, we engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Rabbi David Jaffe from the Kirva Institute. Delving into the complex landscape of the Gaza-Israel conflict, we navigate through the lenses of antisemitism, Islamophobia, trauma, and power dynamics. Rabbi Jaffe brings a distinctive perspective to the forefront, shedding light on Jewish self-determination and advocating for a theology of power and sharing the land. We candidly explore the imperative need for theological transformation within Judaism and Christianity, steering away from doctrines of dominance toward embracing our collective mandate of unprecedented hospitality and sacrificial love. The conversation culminates with the importance of maintaining human connections amid the conflict in order to be part of healing our wounded world. 02:30 October 7th 06:46 current war 15:17 anti-semitism 20:53 resisting binaries 24:54 theology 35:03 word to American Christians The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse, and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers embedded within this war's trenches. Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Learn more about the Kirva Institute at rabbidavidjaffe.com/the-kirva-institute…

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[Virtual Immersion] Palestinian-American Peacemaker & Telos President - Greg Khalil 53:57

2 years ago53:57

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This Virtual Immersion features a conversation between Greg Khalil ( @eternalvagabond ) of @thetelosgroup and @jerswigart . It includes remarkable analyses of this current moment in Israel & Palestine, what made it both predictable and preventable, and the outcomes that global power brokers are pursuing. They discuss the power of language to shape realities that either move us toward or away from one another. They challenge us to break agreement with image management, performance, and platform-building if we want to be a part of ushering in a world of mutual flourishing. The conversation culminates with Greg issuing a prophetic call to American Christians to live into the extraordinary and very distinct power and influence we have to promote human security by demanding our own leaders defend human rights. 02:29 Greg intro 10:33 Unpacking this current moment 15:13 Jerusalem 24:05 Problematic Evangelical Theology 26:00 Use of language 36:01 US American Christians 49:03 Closing Reflection The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse, and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers embedded within this war's trenches. Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Learn more about Telos: telosgroup.org…

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Pondering Advent: Expectation Amidst Despair 29:01

2 years ago29:01

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Osheta and Jer wrestle with Advent and how it exemplifies our posture as Everyday Peacemakers. Osheta explores the gift of pondering as Mary did, waiting in expectation for God’s restoration. Jer confesses deep feelings of despair and discouragement as the violence seems to be winning. Together, they rediscover the deeper truth that in our world obsessed with power, the Advent story reminds us that true strength lies in vulnerability and that Christmas was always about powerlessness. Learn more about us at globalimmerse.org Support our work: globalimmerse.org/donate Turning Over Tables theme music courtesy of The Brilliance www.thebrilliancemusic.com…

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[Virtual Immersion] Bereaved Mothers Robi Damelin (Israeli Jew) and Layla Alsheikh (Palestinian Muslim) 56:18

2 years ago56:18

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This special Virtual Immersion conversation is with two peacemakers, Robi Damelin (Israeli Jew) and Layla Alsheikh (Palestinian Muslim), bereaved mothers who share their stories of loss, reflect on the current horror in Israel and Palestine, and encourage us forward on the journey from revenge to reconciliation. Robi and Layla are members of the Parents Circle – a joint Israeli-Palestinian organization made up of more than 700 bereaved families. Their common bond is that they have lost a close family member to the conflict. But instead of choosing revenge, they have chosen a path of reconciliation. This live conversation was held on November 13, 2023, in partnership with Feast World Kitchen, a Spokane-based nonprofit renowned for its elevation of immigrant chefs and former refugees. Feast took center stage on November 12 in a stirring act of solidarity. Five local chefs, united by their Israeli-Palestinian heritage, crafted a menu featuring traditional recipes from both cultures, showcasing unity amidst the turmoil in Israel and Gaza. The day’s proceeds were dedicated to the Parents Circle. The Parents Circle and Global Immersion have partnered in immersion experiences for American faith leaders in Israel/Palestine, empowering them for the vital work of peacemaking. Here are five quick links to resources mentioned in the conversation. 1. Parents Circle Jam Session , a collaboration of Israeli and Palestinian mothers and chefs: https://www.theparentscircle.org/en/pcff-communities_eng/pcff-women_eng/jam-session_eng/ 2. New York Times article by Nicholas Kristof featuring Parents Circle: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/opinion/israel-palestine-war-family-loss.html 3. NPR Interview featuring Parents Circle: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/11/05/1209976575/israel-hamas-war-hope-empathy-personal-stories 4. CNN article featuring Robi and Layla: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/15/us/iyw-israeli-palestinian-hth/index.html 5. An upcoming conversation on Israel/Gaza at Whitworth University in Spokane (11/30 @ 7p): https://forms.whitworth.edu/calendar/event/detail/4152 Here are the five next steps offered in the conversation: 1. Host a viewing and/or share this conversation. 2. Contact your Member of Congress to demand a ceasefire with this script: https://www.telosgroup.org/advocacy-call-script-call-your-member-of-congress-now/ 3. Reach to your Jewish and Muslim kin in your communities. 4. Invest in and subscribe to organizations like Parents Circle , Feast , and Global Immersion that are training peacemakers, mobilizing healers, and incubating dreams. - Parents Circle: https://parentscirclefriends.org/donate/ -Feast: https://www.feastworldkitchen.org/donate -Global Immersion: https://globalimmersion.networkforgood.com/projects/206880-support-global-immersion 5. Grow a more holistic, pro-human understanding of and response to the violence in Israel and Palestine by listening to other voices in our Virtual Immersion featuring peacemakers embedded in the trenches of this war on Global Immersion's Instagram and the other “Virtual Immersion” conversations in our podcast feed: https://www.instagram.com/globalimmerse/ The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse, and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers embedded within this war's trenches.…

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[Virtual Immersion] Jewish Historian and Theologian Jared Goldfarb 53:32

2 years ago53:32

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In our second Virtual Immersion conversation, we delve into the profound realms of Jewish trauma with Jared, a Jerusalem-based Jewish historian and theologian. Through his personal narrative on October 7th, Jared provides insights into the pervasive fear that extends throughout the Jewish community, exacerbated by the ongoing violence in Gaza—a consequence he attributes to the collision of unaddressed trauma and unchecked power. Throughout our discussion, we explore various peacemaking themes. Jared emphasizes the influence of language in either reinforcing or dismantling oversimplified binaries and false equivalencies. We delve into the delicate balance between urgency and grief, contemplating how to navigate this tension effectively. We underscore the significance of speaking truth to power and advocating for societal change within our respective traditions, fostering engagement rather than disengagement. Our conversation also touches on the paradoxical nature of attempting to eradicate an ideology with the very violence that gave rise to it. We highlight the imperative of cultivating a more comprehensive, pro-human understanding and approach in the face of crises. Finally, we speak to the power of acknowledging one’s fallibility—the recognition that we are never entirely right and are inherently prone to error. The Virtual Immersion is a series of conversations to platform and amplify the experiences and insights of our Palestinian and Israeli friends and peacemaking partners. The live conversations first take place on Instagram Live @globalimmerse and are then made available as podcast episodes. These are vulnerable, challenging conversations with peacemakers who are embedded within the trenches of this war. Follow Global Immersion on IG: https://www.instagram.com/globalimmerse/ Support our work: https://globalimmerse.org/donate/…

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Bridging Ideological Divides Amidst Power Differentials 38:58

2 years ago38:58