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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to the season finale of Model View Conversation! We hope you've enjoyed learning and growing with us. It's been almost a year since we started the show, which is hard to believe. Even though this is the end of season 1, don't worry. We've got some exciting plans for season 2 and we'll be back before you know it! In this special episode, Ben and Brian speak to a man with over 30 years of experience as a developer and database administrator. He also happens to be Ben's dad. Joe Gohlke joins us and has lots of wisdom to impart in this special season finale episode. It was a very engaging talk and is filled with great advice for junior and senior developers alike. Follow us on Twitter @mvcpodcast . Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:02 - Joe's developer story 06:47 - Communicating with non-technical colleagues 14:31 - Working with (for) non-technical management 32:32 - Interjecting in a mixed crowd 48:33 - Ask questions the right way 57:32 - Gushing praise is always welcome! 1:00:12 - Outro…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedYou need experience to be considered for a position, but how do you get it? Working on your own project is a great way to prove your skillset and showcase your unique vision. So what do you work on? How do you show off your work? What size project should you tackle? Should you collaborate with someone else? These questions and more are discussed on the latest episode of MVC. Follow us on Twitter @mvcpodcast for updates on new episodes and other fun stuff. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:56 - Start small 07:04 - Don't overly rely on external dependencies 19:55 - Showcase your work 32:06 - What should you build? 39:01 - Working with others... 48:48 - Outro…
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Ben and Brian continue their discussion of how to get your first (or second) job as a new developer. This time it's all about resumes and applications. They discuss their own resumes and how they typically approach the average dev job posting. Do's and don't's for how to best spend your time on your resume, how to interpret a job posting, and how to short circuit the whole process to get ahead of the pack. Chapters 0:00 - Intro 1:10 - Resumes and how to write them 7:06 - Alternatives to a resume 16:30 - How resumes can fail you 32:03 - Applications and how to read them 43:11 - Short circuit the application process 53:19 - Outro Links The Art of Product - a podcast by Ben Orenstein and Derrick Reimer Roy Jossfolk - great local entrepreneur and where I got "your net worth is your network". Resume tips - an article showcasing some reasonable advice for how to hone your resume and keep it sharp.…
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This episode marks the beginning of a new series centered around the topic of getting your first job as a junior developer. In this episode Ben and Brian provide an overview of the things you might be concerned with regarding the hiring process. In the next 3 episodes, they'll examine each part of the process and provide insight and advice for ensuring you get a great development job that both plays to your strengths and challenges you to improve. Also be sure to check back here and follow us on Twitter @mvcpodcast for updates on new episodes and other fun stuff. Chapters 0:00 - Intro 4:19 - Our experiences hiring and getting hired 14:24 - Good ways of finding work 31:44 - You don't necessarily have to marry your first date 41:29 - Outro…
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Jonny B and Caleb Stultz are here to discuss their own paths to development and what it's like to now be teaching others to code. Topics include things they wish they'd known when they started, how much work really goes into making online coding courses, and some great resources for learning to build iOS apps. If you're interested in learning how to build iOS apps with Swift, be sure to check out Jonny and Caleb's awesome online course, iOS 12 Masterclass . Also be sure to check back here and follow us on Twitter @mvcpodcast for updates on new episodes and other fun stuff. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:47 - Developer stories 14:50 - Learn it the easy way 18:23 - The call of the classroom 23:29 - How it's made 32:34 - Hardest part of learning to code 41:31 - Resources for learning iOS 46:58 - Follow the guests/outro Links Brad Hussey's courses for web development Big Nerd Ranch Guide for Swift Programming The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy Angela Yu's iOS course Ray Wenderlich's tutorials Let's Build that App YouTube channel Sean Allen - iOS YouTube channel Jared Davidson - iOS Youtube channel Natasha the Robot NSHipster Make It Stick Swift by Sundell…
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Ben and Brian ponder whether work/life balance is possible and if so, how to obtain it, particularly if you are new to the industry. Topics include: whether it's possible to have software development as a hobby if you already do that for your day job; identifying signs of imbalance; detecting and combating burnout; and how to get the right amount of life back into your schedule if you've found yourself too focused on work. Chapters 00:00 - Intro/is work-life balance possible? 13:59 - Work not ending vs. s/w as a hobby 19:13 - Signs of imbalance 20:29 - Burnout 30:43 - Regaining balance 38:33 - Outro…
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Ben and Brian discuss the pros and cons of working in groups as a junior developer. They continue by imagining the ideal characteristics of a group dynamic to foster juniors and build up their skills. Lastly, they give some advice on how to recognize and leave a bad dev team as well as some tips on how to build your online reputation. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:40 - Working in groups 05:26 - Reality TV of learning 11:27 - Ideal group characteristics for juniors 33:02 - Pros/cons of working in groups 39:20 - Rescuing yourself from a bad team 45:02 - Build an online reputation…
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Ben and Brian discuss self learning in this episode. Topics include: being unafraid of experimentation with new languages and techniques, learning how to learn, and resources that help facilitate learning. Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:15 - Will this break? 04:00 - Don’t be afraid to experiment 15:19 - Programmers aren’t magicians 17:43 - Skateboarding on the first try is hard 23:47 - Learning how to learn 25:24 - Driving stick can become second nature, and so can coding 31:01 - Learning Swift after Javascript is like learning Spanish after English 37:21 - Resources to learn the process of learning 48:51 - Final thoughts Links Coursera Course by Dr. Barbara Oakley Make It Stick by Peter C. Brown, Henry L Roediger, and Mark A. McDaniel Enki Learning App on Google Play or Apple App Store Free Code Camp - Learning site for HTML, CSS, Javascript…
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Go offline with the Player FM app!
