

đď¸ Episode Title: Is BDD Dying? Did Low-Code Kill It?
In this episode of Modern Software, host Mike Verinder is joined by Andy Knight (aka The Automation Panda) for a thoughtful, spicy, and at times hilarious conversation about the state of Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) in 2025.
BDD was supposed to revolutionize how teams collaborateâbridging developers, testers, and business folks through shared examples, plain English, and clarity of intent. But somewhere along the way, it became... Gherkin files nobody reads, tools nobody maintains, and a checkbox item that often misses the point.
So we ask the honest question:
đ Is BDD actually dying? And if so... did low-code kill it?
đ§ What We Cover in This Episode:
đ Quotes from the Episode:
âBDD isnât just a testing frameworkâit was supposed to be a conversation.â
â Andy KnightâItâs not that BDD is bad. Itâs just that most teams never actually did BDD.â
â Mike VerinderâWe didnât kill BDD with tools. We killed it by skipping the human part.â
â Andy Knight
đ§ Who Should Listen to This Episode:
đââď¸ About Our Guest: Andy Knight â The Automation Panda
Andy Knight is a software engineer and quality advocate known for his blog AutomationPanda.com and speaking engagements around the world. Heâs a prominent voice in the test automation community and deeply passionate about making software quality accessible, collaborative, and sustainable.
đď¸ Hosted by Mike Verinder
Mike is the founder of Modern Software, an open-source support company and creator of the Modern Software Podcast. He runs the largest Selenium group on LinkedIn and works with companies exploring test strategy, automation tooling, and real-world software delivery problems.
đ Connect & Subscribe
đ Subscribe to Modern Software for more real-world conversations on how software gets built, tested, shipped, and scaled.
đ§ New episodes every 3â4 weeks featuring voices from dev, test, product, and open source.
Follow us on LinkedIn: Modern Software
BDD, Behavior Driven Development, test automation, low-code testing, software testing, testing podcast, automation strategy, AI in testing, Andy Knight, Automation Panda, Gherkin, Cucumber, Spec by Example, Cycle Labs, Mike Verinder, QA podcast, DevOps, software engineering, developer tools, Agile testing, Selenium, Playw
4 episodes
đď¸ Episode Title: Is BDD Dying? Did Low-Code Kill It?
In this episode of Modern Software, host Mike Verinder is joined by Andy Knight (aka The Automation Panda) for a thoughtful, spicy, and at times hilarious conversation about the state of Behavior-Driven Development (BDD) in 2025.
BDD was supposed to revolutionize how teams collaborateâbridging developers, testers, and business folks through shared examples, plain English, and clarity of intent. But somewhere along the way, it became... Gherkin files nobody reads, tools nobody maintains, and a checkbox item that often misses the point.
So we ask the honest question:
đ Is BDD actually dying? And if so... did low-code kill it?
đ§ What We Cover in This Episode:
đ Quotes from the Episode:
âBDD isnât just a testing frameworkâit was supposed to be a conversation.â
â Andy KnightâItâs not that BDD is bad. Itâs just that most teams never actually did BDD.â
â Mike VerinderâWe didnât kill BDD with tools. We killed it by skipping the human part.â
â Andy Knight
đ§ Who Should Listen to This Episode:
đââď¸ About Our Guest: Andy Knight â The Automation Panda
Andy Knight is a software engineer and quality advocate known for his blog AutomationPanda.com and speaking engagements around the world. Heâs a prominent voice in the test automation community and deeply passionate about making software quality accessible, collaborative, and sustainable.
đď¸ Hosted by Mike Verinder
Mike is the founder of Modern Software, an open-source support company and creator of the Modern Software Podcast. He runs the largest Selenium group on LinkedIn and works with companies exploring test strategy, automation tooling, and real-world software delivery problems.
đ Connect & Subscribe
đ Subscribe to Modern Software for more real-world conversations on how software gets built, tested, shipped, and scaled.
đ§ New episodes every 3â4 weeks featuring voices from dev, test, product, and open source.
Follow us on LinkedIn: Modern Software
BDD, Behavior Driven Development, test automation, low-code testing, software testing, testing podcast, automation strategy, AI in testing, Andy Knight, Automation Panda, Gherkin, Cucumber, Spec by Example, Cycle Labs, Mike Verinder, QA podcast, DevOps, software engineering, developer tools, Agile testing, Selenium, Playw
4 episodes
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